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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
I've finally started watching What If. I thought the first episode was a little generic but still pretty enjoyable, but unfortunately I really didn't like the second episode. A lot of things didn't make sense like why T'Challa would be called Star-Lord and why there would be such drastic changes with just Peter turning into T'Challa. I don't like how T'Challa is kinda flawless and that everybody even villains like Korath kinda kisses his ass. I get that this is supposed to be a tribute to Chadwick Boseman but it's honestly a very cheap way to do it. Most importantly though I hate what they did with Thanos because it ruins the whole idea that he's the Mad Titan. Like we always knew Thanos was wrong, I feel like the whole point of his character was that he was never going to admit it, which is a reason why I really liked Thanos is Endgame unlike most people as I think it solidified the fact that there's really nothing to sympathise about this guy and he's a crazy lunatic, that when he sees his plan fail he'll just respond with more violence (much like real world tyrants). Not to mention him getting whooped by the Black Order was annoying to watch.

Hopefully it gets better from here on.
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It gets better on episode 3 and it peak when episode 4 came out, though the rest of the series is still pretty good especially episode 8 but the finale was kinda wacked so be prepared for that.
 
I would consider Daredevil to be the best of the Netflix shows, with probably the most consistent quality throughout.

Jessica Jones has an amazing first season that I'd consider on par with Daredevil's quality, but the following seasons felt like a big step down. (Season 2 in particular had a few things that really annoyed me)

Luke Cage has a first season with a great first half, then a comparatively underwhelming second half. Season 2 is consistently pretty good in my opinion.

Iron Fist is definitely the weakest of the shows, though I still enjoyed it overall. The second season is a noticeable step up from the first.

I thought The Defenders was enjoyable overall, but the story had some weak elements and missed potential. The character interactions were by far the highlight.

The Punisher has a great first season, and a somewhat weaker second season that suffers from storytelling that, while enjoyable, was almost bafflingly disjointed in some areas.

If I were to rank the shows overall, it would probably be Daredevil>Luke Cage>The Punisher>Jessica Jones>The Defenders>Iron Fist.

By season, it would be DDS3>DDS1>JJS1>LCS2>DDS2>TPS1>LCS1>JJS3>TPS2>TD>IFS2>JJS2>IFS1

Overall, I'd still recommend watching each show in release order at least once, as I wouldn't consider any of them bad, even at their weakest. Maybe "meh" on occasion, but still enjoyable more often than not.

MASSIVE WARNING THOUGH!

Netflix might be taking down the shows on March 1st, so anyone still wanting to catch up on them should probably hurry! (unless they are willing to pay for whichever streaming service they are moved to, that is)
 
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So I continued wathing What If. I really liked Episodes 3 and 4, but then 5 kinda regressed again as I thought it was very weird tonally. It has so far been hit or miss for me.
 
AkumaNoHissatsu said:
But the mcu one is real shit
Like, being defeated with funny joke arrows, getting hit by small car, then ended getting killed by Echo with GUNS?, Although we don't know if he's really dead, but his appearance in Hawkeye really is trash💀
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"why is my peak human character only peak human?"
 
Did a little math, the netflix shows in total would take a little less than a week to watch, this is excluding sleep, food breaks and other stuff
 
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