MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[Dalesean027]

Really weird for me honestly, being out of commission for so long and letting himself go like he did had an impact, hence why this statement feels wrong personnally

I mean we saw by his performance that it didn't really have an impact he performed better he was literally blitzed and beat by Thanos in thier first encounter on the asguardian ship "moved faster than Thor had ever thought possible" if u recall the statement from then

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I hope we get a What if...? Hulk that shows an insane power buff. Like, he does the snap, something goes wrong because he uses the snap for something else which creates a hulk amped by the stones.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I hope we get a What if...? Hulk that shows an insane power buff. Like, he does the snap, something goes wrong because he uses the snap for something else which creates a hulk amped by the stones.

I doubt it, ultron we’ll probably just spam phases or something. But I’d be nice for hulk to get some better feats

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I mean we saw by his performance that it didn't really have an impact he performed better he was literally blitzed and beat by Thanos in thier first encounter on the asguardian ship "moved faster than Thor had ever thought possible" if u recall the statement from then

He seemed honestly easily more tired, back when he was in was good condition he was more agile and faster than during Endgame

 

[Lonkitt]

Very much so

What do you mean, Ralph Bohner is here

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I doubt it, ultron we’ll probably just spam phases or something. But I’d be nice for hulk to get some better feats

Infinite Ultron will be a recurring villain? What do you mean by spam phases?

 

[Dalesean027]

He seemed honestly easily more tired, back when he was in was good condition he was more agile and faster than during Endgame

That's fair and I get what you're saying but it's honestly just a weird situation since he's actually performing much better than ever before and is stated be doing so but still visual appears slower likely due to weight

 

[ArkhamDC06]

What do you mean, Ralph Bohner is here

Please no lol

Btw, what do you think about the whole Doctor Strange isn't Strange in NWH

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Please no lol

Btw, what do you think about the whole Doctor Strange isn't Strange in NWH

I always thought that strange just got cocky or whatever in NWH

 

[ArkhamDC06]

That's fair and I get what you're saying but it's honestly just a weird situation since he's actually performing much better than ever before and is stated be doing so but still visual appears slower likely due to weight

Hence I feel the statement is weird but anyway

 

[chosen]

Where is it stated that that Thanos is weaker? And where is it stated Endgame Thor > IW Thor?

There is an statament from russo o recall saying the younger thanos is weaker albeit can't find it

 

[chosen]

I still think if that was supposed to be the strongest Thor he should have been able to put up a better fight tbh.

Thor shown able to one shot thanos he just got ragdolled cuz Thanos is physically stronger
Iw Thor vs thanos would have to same way but worse if Thor didn't decided to use the Stormbreaker which are an counter to the stones

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I always thought that strange just got cocky or whatever in NWH

I kind of wich it won't be him. Not necessarily Mephisto like some say (though I would love this and I hope he will get introduced) but some other supernatural threat using Strange's spell to mess things up

The thing is, many people pointed it ou how weird Strange's acting here. He and Peter barely shared a scene in IW and Endgame and they weren't close at all and awhile he's arrogant, Strange is also extremely cautious with Magic so suddenly seeing him being uber cocky and ready to help a guy he never had any real interaction with before felt weird. There's also the fact that the train scene weirdly seems to show Peter kind of fighting Strange somehow. And then there's also how it's weird that a spell that would erase memories ends up messing causing timelines and alternate universes to get chaotic

I've actually red several theories about it and putting aside the Strange isn't Strange one, there are also people who think he was influenced or controlled by an external force. Another theory said that the spell itself wasn't what caused the timeline stuff but that someone or something exploited Strange's spell and sabotaged it for its own purpose and Strange will notice that and spends the whole movie trying to understand what happened. Some even said that a shot from the trailer showed a weird orb of energy as the spell was prepared and felt that orb was weirdly similar to an eye. As in, Shuma Gorath's eye.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Infinite Ultron will be a recurring villain? What do you mean by spam phases?

Idk, since he has visions body he we’ll probably phase hulk and Thor to take them out quickly

 

[chosen]

ultron by himself already slapped Thor so i don't Think he will even need phase

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Oh, I meant in future What If? seasons we get the Hulk to join the multiverse Avengers group

INB4 they're called the Ultimates

 

[Lonkitt]

If Ultron won, I would hope he becomes a less lame villain

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I honestly don't think Infinity Ultron will be a recurring villain after this, in my opinion he will die in Episode 9. As for the phasing stuff, maybe that's how he took Hulk and Thor out in his timeline but he surely doesn't need it anymore though he will have this ability

 

[ArkhamDC06]

If Ultron won, I would hope he becomes a less lame villain

I particulary hope this will be the real Age of Ultron cause the movie one lasted less than a week honestly

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I kind of wich it won't be him. Not necessarily Mephisto like some say (though I would love this and I hope he will get introduced) but some other supernatural threat using Strange's spell to mess things up

The thing is, many people pointed it ou how weird Strange's acting here. He and Peter barely shared a scene in IW and Endgame and they weren't close at all and awhile he's arrogant, Strange is also extremely cautious with Magic so suddenly seeing him being uber cocky and ready to help a guy he never had any real interaction with before felt weird. There's also the fact that the train scene weirdly seems to show Peter kind of fighting Strange somehow. And then there's also how it's weird that a spell that would erase memories ends up messing causing timelines and alternate universes to get chaotic

I've actually red several theories about it and putting aside the Strange isn't Strange one, there are also people who think he was influenced or controlled by an external force. Another theory said that the spell itself wasn't what caused the timeline stuff but that someone or something exploited Strange's spell and sabotaged it for its own purpose and Strange will notice that and spends the whole movie trying to understand what happened. Some even said that a shot from the trailer showed a weird orb of energy as the spell was prepared and felt that orb was weirdly similar to an eye. As in, Shuma Gorath's eye.

Maybe, but here’s the thing strange has a lot of big wins under his belt in a sort time fram, he quickly mastered the mystc arts and became sorcer superme, sedate dormmamu(kinda) and is the only reason why endgame was even a thing. And while ya he didn’t really interact with Peter that much he was probably still helping him just because his an avenger like him so his probably thinking “we saved the universe so we’re practically war buddies and eh I’m the sorcerer superme, no spell is to much for me” or something like that. But yours is also plausible

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If Ultron won, I would hope he becomes a less lame villain

As long as he keeps sassing everyone on sight, he will be epic like he already is. Away with your heresy, blasphemer!

 

[Lonkitt]

Ratio with Klaue

 

[ArkhamDC06]

sedate dormmamu(kinda)

Honestly, the universe itself should pray Dormammu never learns there's no Time Stone anymore in the main timeline cause that was the only thing keeping him eating everything and if he ever does...well I don't think Carol's punch will be of any help even at full power

And I hope he will return

 

[Lonkitt]

Please no lol

Btw, what do you think about the whole Doctor Strange isn't Strange in NWH

NGL I have no clue where that's coming from

I'd prefer it to be Canon Strange

 

[OwenVaunman]

NGL I have no clue where that's coming from

I'd prefer it to be Canon Strange

makes way less sense that way

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Honestly, the universe itself should pray Dormammu never learns there's no Time Stone anymore in the main timeline cause that was the only thing keeping him eating everything and if he ever does...well I don't think Carol's punch will be of any help even at full power

And I hope he will return

I have no doubt in my mind that Strange and Wong are aware of this and have probably done some research into finding a contingency plan.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Sorry guys, I was just killing myself after reading an article about how the JEDI term was problematic because the Jedi Order is a an order of white saviors using toxically masculine violent solutions to conflict and lightsabers being phallic symbols and how against justice and diversity they are. I.AM.NOT.JOKING.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Sorry guys, I was just killing myself after reading an article about how the JEDI term was problematic because the Jedi Order is a an order of white saviors using toxically masculine violent solutions to conflict and lightsabers being phallic symbols and how against justice and diversity they are. I.AM.NOT.JOKING.

What in the ****...?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion

They’re meant to be heroes within the Star Wars universe, but the Jedi are inappropriate symbols for justice work

www.scientificamerican.com

Behold and despair

 

[Lollipop_The_King]

Ah.
More reasons to never return to Star Wars.
My eyes burn.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Sorry guys, I was just killing myself after reading an article about how the JEDI term was problematic because the Jedi Order is a an order of white saviors using toxically masculine violent solutions to conflict and lightsabers being phallic symbols and how against justice and diversity they are. I.AM.NOT.JOKING.

This is the dummest shit I’ve ever heard

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Another pointless article written by people who are digging so deep into the barrel that the barrel has a hole in it.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

So …………. Sam Jackson is white, you shouldn’t fight back when the soulless corporations try to seize control in a civil war, and sticks are evil. The above sum it up about right?

 

[Lollipop_The_King]

These people are jumping to hyperspace with their leaps of logic

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Sorry guys, I was just killing myself after reading an article about how the JEDI term was problematic because the Jedi Order is a an order of white saviors using toxically masculine violent solutions to conflict and lightsabers being phallic symbols and how against justice and diversity they are. I.AM.NOT.JOKING.

 

[Dalesean027]

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So …………. Sam Jackson is white, you shouldn’t fight back when the soulless corporations try to seize control in a civil war, and sticks are evil. The above sum it up about right?

Pretty much yeah

 

[Lonkitt]

Sorry guys, I was just killing myself after reading an article about how the JEDI term was problematic because the Jedi Order is a an order of white saviors using toxically masculine violent solutions to conflict and lightsabers being phallic symbols and how against justice and diversity they are. I.AM.NOT.JOKING.

I'm pretty sure George Lucas just thought laser swords were cool

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Was just watching the Doctor Strange episode. Damn this episode is good

 

[PsychoWarper]

Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion

They’re meant to be heroes within the Star Wars universe, but the Jedi are inappropriate symbols for justice work

www.scientificamerican.com

Behold and despair

This reminds me somewhat of the current discussion of removing the “Men” from “X-Men” as it isn’t inclusive and is misogynistic.

Personally if they wany change it ill disgaree but ill listen but calling it misogynistic seems odd.