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Yeah, that's my first time hearing people say it was mistranslation. What was the original wording? Cause I'm pretty sure people pulled up Manga scans with it saying the same thing.
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I'm doing this again: Fire Dragon vs Dragon of Wrath
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I remember the conversation an someone brought up manga scans and the hell word wasn't there.
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It was either hell or purgatory.
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Malikobama brought up the fact that unless it can be proven, there's literally 0 reason to take Atlas' comment at face value even if it wasn't a mistranslation.
Because at the end of the day, he can call it whatever he wants, but the contested point is that Zancrow's flame is not like a normal fire. Neither is Hellblaze. If it's just flames with a cool name and no actual difference, how does that have any relevance and stop Natsu from eating them like normal?
THAT is a False Equivalence because both have Hell in their name.
Because at the end of the day, he can call it whatever he wants, but the contested point is that Zancrow's flame is not like a normal fire. Neither is Hellblaze. If it's just flames with a cool name and no actual difference, how does that have any relevance and stop Natsu from eating them like normal?
THAT is a False Equivalence because both have Hell in their name.
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Meliodas via reason above.
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If I'm correct Mel needs one more vote.
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Mel fra.
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Grace.
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Natsu fra
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7-4
What now?
What now?
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Waiting in limbo or changing someone's opinion.
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We're gonna die here, right?
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Get the popcorn popping o wo
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Mel FRA
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Ok.
Mel: 8.
Natsu: 4.
Mel: 8.
Natsu: 4.
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Don't quote the same post twice.
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From the 1st chapter, so we are going to ignore it?
If you can prove that Natsu cant eat hellfire with valid logic or a demon flame has divine power like god flame then Mel take Mel
Otherwise
If you can prove that Natsu cant eat hellfire with valid logic or a demon flame has divine power like god flame then Mel take Mel
Otherwise
- Natsu is immune to flame
- can't be hurt by his own flame
- static amplification
- enhance sense to predict an opponent move
- FC type attack is not new for me
- can use his flame in different way(like using it behing his hand to enhance his physical state)
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Natsu could eat Atlas who's flames burn magic, there's no difference between them and hellfire. He did it with no difficulty too.
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I'll ask again: Does Sealed and Unarmed Meliodas uses Hellfire?
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He first used in-story wise the ability when he got liz sword, which was during the fight with dale.
He in a flashback used it with the dragon handle some 10ish years ago while being unsealed to wound ban
It should still be viable for him to use it, seeing that random red demons have access to it and when he first used it against dale he was still sealed and we know he can channel it through the dragon handle from the flashback when he was unsealed.
Done while being sealed and armed with a random weapon -> yes Done with the dragon handle while being unsealed -> yes Ergo: doing it with the dragon handle while being sealed -> yes Additional intel: inferior red demons do it too without any weapon or incantation
He in a flashback used it with the dragon handle some 10ish years ago while being unsealed to wound ban
It should still be viable for him to use it, seeing that random red demons have access to it and when he first used it against dale he was still sealed and we know he can channel it through the dragon handle from the flashback when he was unsealed.
Done while being sealed and armed with a random weapon -> yes Done with the dragon handle while being unsealed -> yes Ergo: doing it with the dragon handle while being sealed -> yes Additional intel: inferior red demons do it too without any weapon or incantation
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It's not if he can use it but will he use it.
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Why does it matter if he can use it with Dragon Handle when he was unsealed? Isn't this a matter of using it while sealed?
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Yes.
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He has used it while being sealed, like mentioned above
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Hasn't he only used it twice sealed, out of the many fights he has had in this form? There's like a 20% or even less chance he'll use it.
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We don't count how many times a character has used anabaility on relation to how many fights he has been in only to determine whether or not he would use it. Not when it's a regular bread and butter ability that is - exceptions of course are always a possibility.
As for meliodas, it was his very first move once he got Liz sword back and during the entire fight with Hendrickson/gilthunder/Vivian he worked for a moment for when he could use it most perfectly for the maximum of result.
It's a perfectly IC move set for meliodas.
As for meliodas, it was his very first move once he got Liz sword back and during the entire fight with Hendrickson/gilthunder/Vivian he worked for a moment for when he could use it most perfectly for the maximum of result.
It's a perfectly IC move set for meliodas.
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Even without Liz's sword?
You're adressing that he did it once he got the sword but this Meliodas doesn't have it.
You're adressing that he did it once he got the sword but this Meliodas doesn't have it.
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I have explained why meliodas being able to use hellfire while being sealed and with just the dragon handle is a logical conclusion just some posts above.
He has done it while being sealed and with Liz sword He has done it while being unsealed with the dragon handle -> he can do it both, channeling through the dragon handle and having enough power to do it while being sealed
He has done it while being sealed and with Liz sword He has done it while being unsealed with the dragon handle -> he can do it both, channeling through the dragon handle and having enough power to do it while being sealed
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Fair enough.
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But we're talking about his in character likeliness to use hellfire during the dragon handle sealed form. What he did with Liz's sword doesn't apply.
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>Natsu doesn't seem to have much stamina in this form
What makes you say that?
What makes you say that?
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There are.
