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It's not really bout the verse itself it's just the lack of competent supporters that participate in vs battles.
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Natsu vs Meliodas rematch
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Not in his profile and no scan, next.
Meliodas has gotten winded before.
In your head? Sure but in that head of yours Meliodas is probably tier 1 with High Godly regeneration and all the hax on the wiki. But unfortunately for you, we go by profiles and Meliodas has no such resistance.
Kindly stop making shit up here. You accused another user of making up win-con's whenever you're the dude making up things that aren't even on Meliodas's profile.
And you know this how?
Nobody agrees with you.
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What are you implying? Careful or you will end up in an rvr thread.
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Natsu slams fra
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You know the story of the boy who cried wolf? You're the boy. Nothing he had there is report worthy, and with your history of making false reports I wouldn't suggest reporting anyone here unless you wanna end up banned yourself.
You were literally banned from NNT threads for the longest time for a good reason Speester.
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I am not going to sit here and lie that NNT got competent debaters
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speedster352
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Don’t turn this around on me.
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What, it's all fun and games unless you're the center of slander?
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Don’t mock me
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Yes,
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Why are you using Natsu's third key when he's only High 6-C in an amp form that doesn't even last long?.
His normal stats are only 6-C while he's in his base, just use his fourth key where his base physicals scale to High 6-C as well.
His normal stats are only 6-C while he's in his base, just use his fourth key where his base physicals scale to High 6-C as well.
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Isnt there enough votes for grace?
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If Zackra who is one of the most knowledgeble supporters of Fairy tail and Gin who is not only knowledgeble, but if this problem would have been important he would have made it clear, but both of them didn't said it
then both of them know that even if the amp doesn't last long, this doesn't pose a problem to Natsu and can defeat Meliodas in time
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It could pose a massive problem for Natsu, but it's dependent on what Meliodas's High 6-C value even is in the first place since I can't find the calc for it and the reasoning provided doesn't really help either.
Speedster said he's 650 gigatons but I'd rather see the values for myself than trusting his word tbh.
Speedster said he's 650 gigatons but I'd rather see the values for myself than trusting his word tbh.
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Darkness Is a part of the demons physiology it’s a non natural miasma they exude, Idk if He could absorb it and if he did it would make him ill.
Yes but it’ll prevent Meli from getting burned which is cool
Are there any skill feats to show ? not that i think that it’s important skill Is often Massively wanked
Meli has great sensing:
Can sense incoming magic objects from miles away
Can sense, time and deflect invisible/homing attacks he never was attacked by before
and can predict patterns of movements, timings of the attacks etc… without having a full understanding of the type of technique that is used.
He also adapts kinda fast like when he copied King’s technique after seeing it once (in Istar)
Meli is a brawler more than anything.
also has rage amps that are a big enough boost to allow him to blitz and beat the shit out of Red demon Hendrikson despite being massively weakened before the amp to the point of not being able to stand and getting beat up by Ban in demon mark…
Quick reminder Ban is around Diamond ranks like Gil and Base Hendrikson.
Demon mark aka 2x base Meli power wasn’t enough to cover his exhaustion and beat Ban.
An even weaker Meliodas went from not being able to beat ban despite using a 2x multiplier to blitzing and beating someone that has a blitz gap above Dreyfus lvl fighters.
Meli’s rage amp is huge
Can Meli use Destroyer type enchantments?
For a short period of Time before making him ill
Meli would probably try to read timings and Counter attack or take on a few magic attacks to RC
Mel can basically do the same if enchantments are authorized
It catched off guard basically every of the 10c’s except Estarossa despite them having really good magic sensing. In fact as long as Meli can get in range RC will be a one shot
His magic does not change until he releases the spell that’s why Hendi was surprised
He is also pretty good at predicting striking timings since his most used spell is all about timing and precision.
Y’all just seem to think it’s a massive stomp so I may be missing some information.
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I think it’s 650 gigatons
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They didn't fight him for years continuously.
It was 6,093 matches over the course of 60 years (meaning a match every 3.6 days). They had plenty of time to rest in between, and it's implied that the matches didn't last very long before they got obliterated each time.
Plus, this was Meliodas' emotions, who doesn't even need to eat. I strongly doubt his stamina is 1:1 with material Meliodas.
This is what happens when you try to make matches before a verse revision is complete. But I didn't want to say anything.
It's 640 gigatons via downscaling.
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Not really a major factor tbh, one fire or darkness attack from meli would keep natsu going for quite some time and give him the stats advantage. Natsu also has access to a few different high 6-C amps in his third key so he has plenty of options to keep going.
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Certified goon moment.
What calc is he downscaling from then, also is the 650 gigaton number given by Speedster correct or nah?
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Tbf Meliodas is more of a physical fighter but that hasn't stopped him from using a fire attack once in a while
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Yeah Divine slayer is fire based iirc, 1000 divine bs and Hellblaze are too.
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Again Meliodas is a physical fighter and he won’t use magic if he sees Natsu absorbing his reflected attacks. The win con would be Meliodas waiting for the form to run out
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It's 640 via multiplier downscaling from Vessel Tarmiel's feat.
And to be honest, it's actually decently less than 640. Just not enormously due to Chandler scaling, and the fact that the Commandments could put up a fight with the Archangels' true forms.
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When does Meli use 1000 divine cuts in this key?
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The thousand cuts are not they slice 1000 times then an explosion of Hellblaze after.
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He has it in BoS, though it's very different from what he used against Escanor.
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His best stamina feat should be taking this massive beating from the ten C’s and still fighting.
Or him taking barrages of attacks against Vivian Gil and Hendy, then taking a beating from Ban to then go on and fight demon Hendy.
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It's worth noting that Unsealed and BoS Meliodas weren't at the point where regeneration heals back his stamina. So plopping back on lost limbs with his Demon Marks and losing virtually no power is quite impressive.
However, based on their descriptions, Natsu and Meliodas' stamina doesn't sound different in any meaningful or measurable way.
However, based on their descriptions, Natsu and Meliodas' stamina doesn't sound different in any meaningful or measurable way.
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I think he meant the one he used in assault mode.
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So a win con for Meli would be Natsu running out of his H 6-C form ?
So tier gaps are authorized?
If so Meli can use enchantments.
Else please @speedster352 specify that Enchantments and Demon marks can’t be used.
So tier gaps are authorized?
If so Meli can use enchantments.
Else please @speedster352 specify that Enchantments and Demon marks can’t be used.
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Or at all so he is mostly a physical fighter fights with his fist and Lostvanne. Also isn’t it in character for Meliodas to retrain opponents he restrained hunterfest ban, demon Hendrickson and Gilthunder sword.
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