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Does he have a counter to the regular kind of sealing that just puts someone away in an object?What?
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Does he have a counter to the regular kind of sealing that just puts someone away in an object?What?
It can but not all Soul hax.Does it not? I recall someone arguing that Haki resists soul hax cuz of willpower or some shit.
I dont think minato can do that, and if he can its probably out of character for himDoes he have a counter to the regular kind of sealing that just puts someone away in an object?
That's one of Minato's biggest strengths, he literally sealed away half of Kurama, a 6-B+ character, with a simple ritual altar he summoned with a tap, and he learned a ton of Uzumaki fuinjutsu from Kushina, who were so feared in wars for their sealing abilities that they were wiped out.I dont think minato can do that, and if he can its probably out of character for him
Either way reverse tetragram seal requires direct contact with the fighter which I don't think he'll be able to do since logia intang
Mb I meant eight tetragram sealWho mentioned Reverse Tetragram Seal? That's Danzo's jutsu, not Minato's.
Is that stated to require physical contact? All we know is that he said the name of the jutsu and it was completed.Mb I meant eight tetragram seal
Yeah but sealing a mass of charka (tailed beasts are essentially just clumps of charka) inside a living person is different from what your proposingThat's one of Minato's biggest strengths, he literally sealed away half of Kurama, a 6-B+ character, with a simple ritual altar he summoned with a tap, and he learned a ton of Uzumaki fuinjutsu from Kushina, who were so feared in wars for their sealing abilities that they were wiped out.
Who mentioned Reverse Tetragram Seal? That's Danzo's jutsu, not Minato's.
I'm actually not so sure about that, I remember jiraya touching naruto's stomach and naruto gripping his chest tightly to undo the seal. So I assumed it worked that wayIs that stated to require physical contact? All we know is that he said the name of the jutsu and it was completed.
Well the Four Symbols Seal is stated to either work on a person or objectYeah but sealing a mass of charka (tailed beasts are essentially just clumps of charka) inside a living person is different from what your proposing
(that he can seal living people that aren't tailed beasts inside non living objects) and as I said even if he can do this it doesn't seem in character for him to do so, probably because it cant actually be used as a weapon mid combat.
Where is the first scan you posted from? Is it a canon source?Well the Four Symbols Seal is stated to either work on a person or object
Or because he hasn't needed to/it wouldn't have been effective in any of the situations we've seen. Against Obito, he clearly did just fine with the Rasengan. Against Ay, he seemingly did use sealing to some effect, given his knowledge on Minato's skill with it.
And when he was revived, just sealing jutsu obviously wasn't gonna be enough against the Juubi, Juubito, or Juubidara.
Minato can seal souls and shit via Reaper Death and others iirc. Anyway, would Ace have a way to prevent getting sealed by a fire seal?Haki does resist soul manipulation, but I'm just confused on how that's relevant here.
I have no idea what this is.would Ace have a way to prevent getting sealed by a fire seal?
uuuh I dont know if you can prove minato has that specific hacks to begin withJiraiya was able to seal Amaterasu inside a fire seal. Ace turns into fire so Minato who is superior to Jiraiya in seals would be able to seal him away despite his logia.
The first databookWhere is the first scan you posted from? Is it a canon source?
The Six Paths tools, one of which is routinely used to seal Gyuki, Chibaku Tensei essentially does that, sealing someone within rocks, Sai can bite someone and seal them in his scrolls, Gaara can seal people in his Grand Sand Mausoleum, fodder shinobi can seal Edos inside bandages with sealing tags, the Gedo Mazo can seal Bijuu, etc.Minato is undoubtedly skilled with sealing, but sealing someone inside a non living object is just something we've never seen any naruto character do ever (disregarding the six paths sealing jutsu). Even if he can theoretically do that in character, it doesn't seem like a viable wincon since he has to summon an alter and pray that whoever he's fighting against stands still.
Trapping someone with sand/rock or covering them in bandages with sealing tags is different from imbuing their soul into an inanimate object.The first databook
The Six Paths tools, one of which is routinely used to seal Gyuki, Chibaku Tensei essentially does that, sealing someone within rocks, Sai can bite someone and seal them in his scrolls, Gaara can seal people in his Grand Sand Mausoleum, fodder shinobi can seal Edos inside bandages with sealing tags, the Gedo Mazo can seal Bijuu
They are somewhat different yes, but it does show a precedence for shinobi being able to seal things in inanimate objects, so someone with the seals of a clan so feared that they were wiped out for having advanced sealing jutsu being able to do that isn't a stretch at all.Trapping someone with sand/rock or covering them in bandages with sealing tags is different from imbuing their soul into an inanimate object.
As for the other examples you gave, I already acknowledged six paths abilities can do this to some extent, Sai is a special case due to his drawing hacks (literally nobody else has access to this ability in the series).
Gedo statues is a living creature and is only ever shown sealing bijuu/taking chakra from people.
Uh I don't think the target specifically needs to stand in an altar, that's the thing the target is being sealed into. And again, the seal needs to be carved into whatever the target's being put inside, not the target themselves.Again as I said even if he can theoretically do this its not a viable wincon due to the fact he needs his target to stand within an alter in order to perform the seal which is not happened mid fight. Also I'm not so sure whether or not he can perform the seal without making contact with the target since the scan you posted stated that he needs to physically carve the seal.
FairThey are somewhat different yes, but it does show a precedence for shinobi being able to seal things in inanimate objects, so someone with the seals of a clan so feared that they were wiped out for having advanced sealing jutsu being able to do that isn't a stretch at all.
Uh I don't think the target specifically needs to stand in an altar, that's the thing the target is being sealed into. And again, the seal needs to be carved into whatever the target's being put inside, not the target themselves.
I meant that the thing Minato's sealing his target in needs contact and to have a seal carved into it. In Kurama's case, this was Naruto, in this case, it'll be whatever object or scroll Minato seals Ace in.Fair
If the target is being sealed into an alter why would he summon the alter in order to seal kurama within naruto? Also I'm pretty sure minato is shown touching/making contact with naruto in order to fulfil the seal.
Ok so he has to summon an alter and go through the ritual with the inanimate object that he wants to seal the person in.I meant that the thing Minato's sealing his target in needs contact and to have a seal carved into it. In Kurama's case, this was Naruto, in this case, it'll be whatever object or scroll Minato seals Ace in.
Possibly, that was the process for the Eight Signed Seal, but it might not be as complex for a less powerful seal, as we've seen much faster seals when not involving a character as powerful as Kurama. Not quite the same thing, but we've also seen that Minato can enhance a seal with a simple touch.Ok so he has to summon an alter and go through the ritual with the inanimate object that he wants to seal the person in.
Makes more sense although I don't think he'll be capable of doing this mid battle. Also does the jutsu have a specified range?
Idk I think augmenting the seal is different from casting it to being with. As for teleporting I dont think thats the problem here, the problem is him casting the jutsu within range which I don't think he can do due to ace's dc and intent reading with observation haki.Possibly, that was the process for the Eight Signed Seal, but it might not be as complex for a less powerful seal, as we've seen much faster seals when not involving a character as powerful as Kurama. Not quite the same thing, but we've also seen that Minato can enhance a seal with a simple touch.
He might have difficulties pulling it off mid battle, but he could have a clone do it or teleport between kunai to keep distance while preparing it. As for range, we really don't know, but considering he can teleport basically anywhere if he marks the battlefield, getting in close range shouldn't be much of an issue.
Fair enough but I still imagine the setup is shorter for simpler sealing jutsu.Idk I think augmenting the seal is different from casting it to being with. As for teleporting I dont think thats the problem here, the problem is him casting the jutsu within range which I don't think he can do due to ace's dc and intent reading with observation haki.
Potentially.Fair enough but I still imagine the setup is shorter for simpler sealing jutsu.
If he does all the setup beforehand, then teleports close to Ace just for an instant to cast the jutsu would that work? Also how does Observation Haki work?
No, Ace's observation haki would allow him to know where Minato would teleport before he even does so, which would prompt ace to just step back and use his fire aoe to scorch him.then teleports close to Ace just for an instant to cast the jutsu would that work? Also how does Observation Haki work?
How good is it and how far in advance is it? If Minato rapid fire teleports between the kunai a bunch of times, would that disorient him and mess up his precog?No, Ace's observation haki would allow him to know where Minato would teleport before he even does so, which would prompt ace to just step back and use his fire aoe to scorch him.
This should probably help.How good is it and how far in advance is it?
It wouldn't.If Minato rapid fire teleports between the kunai a bunch of times, would that disorient him and mess up his precog?
Ace would only use his fire if Minato gets close to him. Also, because Minato is unable to actually touch Ace, attacking close would just burn him.Eh idt he'd get hit cause if he sees Ace about to use fire he won't teleport next to him
Ace would just place his fire all around Minato's kunai's so that he won't be able to escape.and if he uses it after Minato teleports in, it only takes a thought to escape and his reactions are much faster than his physical speed.
The person is able to dodge all of themThis should probably help.
MkIt wouldn't.
What if Minato uses a Bijuudama to just try vaporizing Ace?Ace would only use his fire if Minato gets close to him. Also, because Minato is unable to actually touch Ace, attacking close would just burn him.
Idt burning the kunai actually erases the marking, just makes it so Minato can't grab them. Shunshin is also an option to evade.Ace would just place his fire all around Minato's kunai's so that he won't be able to escape.
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