Bleach Revisions Part 3: Post-Timeskip (Fullbring, TYBW and CFYOW Novel) (Part 3)

[Baldurgate]

.

"Though not as much as Kurosaki Ichigo, this one is also quite dangerous."

This is from the quotes compiled from Aernasilver from the CFYOW novels. Liltotto faught TS Ichigo and says that this Hikone is not as dangerous as Ichigo, implying TS Ichigo > this Hikone. So that would mean TS Ichigo is at least FTL since that Hikone is FTL and below TS Ichigo. Since Liltotto uses a blanket "Hikone is not as dangerous as Ichigo" statement I think that should apply to in general aka TS Ichigo is faster, stronger, and more durable than this Hikone.

Nah.


"Meninas, with tremendous momentum, brought down her fist upon Hikone's elbow. Hikone's feet gave way.

"That was tough, huh..."

However, Meninas' fist was twisted, bent at an odd angle. The bones of her fingers snapped. "

Hikone more durable, than TS Ichigo, and did not fly away like trash versus her.


"Hikone's right hand as he prepared to create an arrow. It was impossible to avoid it at such close quarters; given the timing. Liltotto would not even get time to use her own ability.

-Ah... So this is the end. But in any case, if I had used my ability, my stomach would have punctured.

The last image that Liltotto's brain conjured up was Hikone's hand creating a Cero and then she imagined her own body being torn into smithereens."

His powers really big too. Condenced arrow from Hikone can kill any from the femritters. Double getsuga only ... cutted one arm.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

@Baldurgate except we already know bare minimum TS Ichigo > Base Hikone anyhow from multiple statements (with depending on how you interpret one of the statements TS Ichigo > Full Power Hikone) and Ichigo isn't trying to kill the Femritters while Hikone clearly has murderous intent.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

1. nowhere does she say he is more durable than ichigo that is your way of thinking/interpretation

2. as stated above ichigo was never trying to kill the femritters from the start he was really casual about the whole thing

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Hikone: Tries to kill *Weaker versions* of the Femritters

Ichigo: Showing off to them.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Lol this is stupid, what are these arguments.

 

[Zezu1995]

dont stern P have the physical power of kenpachi in base/unsealed?

 

[Duedate8898]

@uskevel

Honestly the fact that Menninas could tag him while only being rated Reltavistic herself should point to him definitely not being in the league of MFTL. Even more, the only person who was actually going to land a blow on him was Bazz-B, the only other FTL present within that brief exchange.

Ichigo getting held down and fought back against by a bunch of Relativitic and a single FTL character is doesn't make any sense if he's MFTL but is easier to justify when he himself is only considered FTL.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What if this just means the Ritter are faster than what their current profiles indicate, because it appears Hikone gets his speed from a calc I assume to be valid so possibly the Quincies should be faster?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

This whole calc if for the fullbring arc up to and after the war arc so the ratings that you currently see in the profiles now are the outdated version so calling upon them as "evidence" is faulty at least and dishonest at most

 

[USklaverei]

@Duedate

Are you really going to ignore all the previous facts to force this? It's completely ridiculous, in the previous fight Menninas couldn't even see Ichigo move, how could she now? Did she gain speed from nowhere or was it Ichigo who lost?

 

[M11UTD]

@Sigurd
You're the one being dishonest, because looking at the images below Ichigo has been stopped on his way, multiple times by people who shouldn't even be able to touch him. And you can't even argue that he isn't trying to go max speed, because he's trying to stop Yhwach in these moments. The only reason these Quincy get stopped in the first place is thanks to renji and the other Soul Reaper cutting them off. He clearly isn't the fastest guy around at the moment.

Shikai Ichigo shown to go full power only at the end when his reiatsu started taking visible form, Yhwach never mentioned that in their previous encounters.