Bleach TYBW Anime AP/Durability Revisions [The Quincy Invasions]

[BasedNecoScaler69]

I’m going to update the blog with the results from the recently accepted sklaverei amp thread, and then if there’s no grammar errors in this blog I’ll start slowly updating profiles.

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[Arc7Kuroi]

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I hope damage closes your next thread without explanation

 

[Damage3245]

I hope damage closes your next thread without explanation

Don't tempt me.

 

[LordTracer]

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Your proposal got rejected, calm down

 

[Deceived3596]

@Damage3245 Did you pray today?

Because if you didn't...

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Delete this man’s comment he’s derailing /s

 

[Malekith]

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He played big to get the least, he did his best my friend

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Your proposal got rejected, calm down

my proposal was for a multiplier, i still win :trollge:

 

[KingogKings777]

Don't tempt me.

Dew it and use the darth vader prey i dont alter the terms anymore.

 

[Ped2018]

Y'all mad cause @BasedNecoScaler69 the throat goat

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Y'all mad cause @BasedNecoScaler69 the throat goat

the what goat???

 

[CloverDragon03]

Y'all derailing this to hell and back

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

We currently accept that all Sternritter have Sklaverei as per their P&A sections, so similarly to how all Espada get GRC and CO despite not showing them in combat, as will the Quincy as long as they can use Vollstandig that is. Are there any contentions with that?

 

[CloverDragon03]

I got no problems

 

[Crobatman44]

We currently accept that all Sternritter have Sklaverei as per their P&A sections, so similarly to how all Espada get GRC and CO despite not showing them in combat, as will the Quincy as long as they can use Vollstandig that is. Are there any contentions with that?

THE 5-C ÄS NÖDT AND ASKIN IS REAL.
I don't have an issue with that.
Btw does Quilge not care about this since i swear the boost that he gets from Vollständig to Ayon absorbed Sklaverei is bigger than 3x? EDIT iirc it's like 6x?
Or would this just create and additional Sklaverei Quilge without the additional Ayon buff?

 

[LordTracer]

We currently accept that all Sternritter have Sklaverei as per their P&A sections, so similarly to how all Espada get GRC and CO despite not showing them in combat, as will the Quincy as long as they can use Vollstandig that is. Are there any contentions with that?

I don’t have any issues with it.

 

[DragonZeroNova]

It makes sense, though I notice some Quincies do have Vollstandig despite never using it. How is it determined which Quincy does or doesn't have Vollstandig out of the ones that haven't used it? Is it just all Sternritters?
List of Quincies who have Vollstandig on their profile despite never using it
Driscoll
Berenice
Jerome

List of Quincies who don't have Vollstandig on their profiles because they haven't used it
Uryu (Probably not included because of future cours)
Royd
Loyd (I'm guessing these two are only because they've used the bodies of other people and there's no Kenpachi Vollstandig or whatever?)
Yhwach (Would that be possible?)
Jugram (Same as Uryu maybe?)
Lee (I mean he probably doesn't)
Gremmy (Curious about this one)
Shaz (Unique case)

Note: Some of these are probably really easy to explain why/why not, I'm just listing them all just in case.
Basically, I feel like Royd and Loyd probably have it, but their keys and abilities make it really hard to apply. Lee probably doesn't since he was still considered Gremmy's creation. Shaz could potentially have it, if we're taking the 13 Blades short story with him being considered a real Sternritter, which is presumably why the 3 that died without using it have it on their profile, and Gremmy feels like someone that should logically have it, but also could reasonably not have it. At the very least, I think some explanation of how they're applied would be nice (Or maybe a source where they just straight up say who has what? Apparently CFYOW says Uryu has access, though that's obviously past this cour)
(Edit: Checked all Quincies, and I feel like either Gremmy and Shaz, or maybe just Shaz who are likely to not appear in any other cour like Uryu/Jugram should have a Vol buff too based on P&A or Driscoll, Berenice and Jerome shouldn't have Vol. Nearly every other character listed can basically be ignored.)

 

[Deceived3596]

Gritted teeth, clenched fist, Arc burns with a pure rage.

 

[DragonZeroNova]

Also, potentially 5-C Chad is amazing

 

[DragonZeroNova]

Yeah, but that's why I'm a bit confused why Gremmy and potentially Shaz don't, since they are also Sternritter. I do know it's in the Quincy psy, but it doesn't seem to have been consistently applied?
Also Loyd and Royd, but those two make more sense

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Y'know what... Sorry to be a buzz kill but it says only a few sternritter can use vollstandig.....

 

[DragonZeroNova]

Well, that would raise more issues, wouldn't it? Qunicy Psy Sternritter gives it to them all, so Gremmy and Shaz should have it too. If this is not the case and not all Sternritters can use it, then why would Berenice, Jerome and Driscoll have Vollstandig if they've never used it? You could maybe say Jerome has it because he's in the image, but...

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Well, that would raise more issues, wouldn't it?

This is what I was suggesting yes.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

List of Quincies who have Vollstandig on their profile despite never using it
Driscoll
Berenice
Jerome

They never got the chance to use Vollstandig cuz they died prematurely

List of Quincies who don't have Vollstandig on their profiles because they haven't used it
Uryu (Probably not included because of future cours)

Yes

Royd

His only scaling comes from when Yhwach made him copy him, perhaps that was only possible for Royd with Vollstandig, regardless his only scaling is with a form that we know has no Vollstandig

Loyd (I'm guessing these two are only because they've used the bodies of other people and there's no Kenpachi Vollstandig or whatever?)

If his brother isn't guaranteed to have one he may not either, also his only real scaling comes from copying Zaraki and as you say Zaraki doesn't have one

Yhwach (Would that be possible?)

Doesn't have one

Jugram (Same as Uryu maybe?)

Doesn't have one like Yhwach

Lee (I mean he probably doesn't)

Yeah

Gremmy (Curious about this one)

Isn't narratively consistent, and why would Yhwach give Gremmy a power up if he was keeping Gremmy in a cage because Gremmy was a potential loose cannon that everyone feared for his strength

Shaz (Unique case)

He can maybe get one, but unlike the first 3 who died prematurely (Quincy couldnt use Vollstandig with the Bankai Medallion), he didn't use it against Izuru at all, so he likely wasn't gifted one

Y'know what... Sorry to be a buzz kill but it says only a few sternritter can use vollstandig.....

Actually thanks to this, I can delete the Vollstandigs for any Sternritter that doesn't show one. But lemme double check.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Y'know what... Sorry to be a buzz kill but it says only a few sternritter can use vollstandig.....

mistranslation alert, we already knew it's true but the viz is wrong there

 

[DragonZeroNova]

Okay, thanks for the answers. Yeah, after thinking about it, I'm mainly hung up on whether or not Jerome, Berenice, Driscoll and Shaz should or shouldn't have Vol. I do think it's important to note that neither Jerome or Berenice used the Bankai Medallion to our knowledge and since they knew about Kenpachi from the Daten, they didn't try to use it against him. Granted, they also got killed pretty fast so...
If they all end up keeping it, I think it could at least be argued that Shaz could potentially have access and just also didn't use it, maybe for reasons? (Gisille didn't use it against Mayuri, maybe Shaz was just too cocky and didn't realise until he was already trapped that he was about to lose, and by that time Vol wouldn't have helped?)
Of course, if they don't end up keeping Vol because of above, then Shaz doesn't deserve one either lol

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I am going to wait and ask Deceived why he gave Vollstandig to the Quincy Physiology page for everyone before I go through with it on profiles, but yeah off that keyword it would remove Vollstandig from those who do not use it.

Which includes: Driscoll, Berenice, Jerome, and Nianzol

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

The viz translation makes it sound like only a select few sternritters have vollstandig, when in reality...

Y'know what... Sorry to be a buzz kill but it says only a few sternritter can use vollstandig.....

Some individuals use spirit weapons with shapes that may initially appear different from bows and arrows, such as guns or swords, and there are also those who can activate the "Quincy Vollständig," an enhanced form that goes beyond imagination.

 

[DragonZeroNova]

I completely forgot about Nianzol lol
Yeah, the Sternritter part of the Quincy psy would give Jugram, Shaz, Yhwach, Royd, Loyd and Gremmy Vollstandig
Can I also say it states that Uryu doesn't have a Vollstandig in the Quincy Sternritter tier psy page? Or that he doesn't possess any special abilities like the other Sternritters, but the only time he has Sternritter tier is when he's joined Yhwach and has the Antithesis? Am I missing something very obvious?

 

[DragonZeroNova]

I will say that while that translation does make it seem like there's more Sternritters that can use Vollstandig (And yeah, most of them do seem to be capable of it), it doesn't actually say (Unless there's some Japanese context that I, someone who doesn't understand the nuances of the language missed) that all Sternritter are capable of Vollstandig, just that there are Sternritters who can use Vollstandig, possibily implying that there may be a few that can't?

 

[LordTracer]

Some individuals use spirit weapons with shapes that may initially appear different from bows and arrows, such as guns or swords, and there are also those who can activate the "Quincy Vollständig," an enhanced form that goes beyond imagination.

At least to me, this doesn’t give the impression that every Sternritter can use Vollständig, since it says “there are also those who can activate“, implying that the ones who can use Vollständig are separate from the rest.

 

[LordTracer]

On another note, because I refuse to let my girl be confined to 6-B hell, Soi-Fon actually manages to deflect one of BG9’s tentacles during this scene, so I would say “At most High 6-A“ is appropriate for her AP, since she is still weaker than BG9 overall.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I will say that while that translation does make it seem like there's more Sternritters that can use Vollstandig (And yeah, most of them do seem to be capable of it), it doesn't actually say (Unless there's some Japanese context that I, someone who doesn't understand the nuances of the language missed) that all Sternritter are capable of Vollstandig, just that there are Sternritters who can use Vollstandig, possibily implying that there may be a few that can't?

I agree it implies that some can't. I just wanna make sure there isn't any further context we are missing.

 

[DragonZeroNova]

Sklavarei is also tied to Vollstandig right? So any additions or removal of Vollstandig will also result in Sklavarei being removed from that Quincy?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Sklavarei is also tied to Vollstandig right? So any additions or removal of Vollstandig will also result in Sklavarei being removed from that Quincy?

Yes

 

[Aernasilver]

Sklavarei is not connected to Vollstandig... the girls used it in base.

 

[DragonZeroNova]

I think that was a case of them using it alongside the activation of their Vollstandig?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Sklavarei is not connected to Vollstandig... the girls used it in base.

They actually use it in conjunction with Vollstandig like they're activated simultaneously, but either way, the 3x shit is only applicable to Vollstandig since it comes from Letzt Stil scaling: Reishi Subjugation with Letzt Stil (3x) < Reishi Subjugation (Sklaverei) with Vollstandig.

 

[Aernasilver]

I don't even know what you're talking about with the 3x shit lol. But I guess.

Also where is my girl Orihime?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I don't even know what you're talking about with the 3x shit lol. But I guess.

Also where is my girl Orihime?

Her shields scale to Yhwach, so she doesn't need any updating rn, cuz that hasn't happened in the anime yet.