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That’s not the main hax I was arguing, it’s one of them, the main hax is the chain blades and blade of Olympus which would render Time eater powerless and weak.
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He won't be able to bypass the major range disadvantage due to the Ruby creating infinite clones and the Eggrobos would literally one-shot Kratos by using spatial cut with the EG SA.So, Hades army distracts Eggman's fodder while chain blades and blade of Olympus power null the Time Eater, which, yes, has been shown to work on powers granted by objects as well. This has all been stated before.
What? During the entire time people have only brought up the hands as something that power nulls someone, not the blades, and even then Kratos needs to touch the Time Eater correct? It can just slow down time and then erase everything, especially since Kratos has to reach the Time Eater, versus the fact that it doesn't need to do the sameThat’s not the main hax I was arguing, it’s one of them, the main hax is the chain blades and blade of Olympus which would render Time eater powerless and weak.
The Power Null page says that it is only assumed to work on the highest being it has show nulling, Kratos has never nulled something half 2-C like the Sol Emeralds or the Phantom RubySo, Hades army distracts Eggman's fodder while chain blades and blade of Olympus power null the Time Eater, which, yes, has been shown to work on powers granted by objects
Kratos does not have universal+ range to be capable of one-shotting an infinite army of clones all at once.Dude, I said in the beginning that the chain blades and the blade of Olympus can do the same exact shit as the army of hades. Army of hades covers all of the minions, while he goes in for the chain blades or blade of Olympus which would drain time eater’s powers on contact, going as far as to making him from a god like being to a weak mortal.
Yeah, then my arguments against it are the same, Eggman literally loves playing the range game with the Time Eater, with the two Sonics needing to work together to even get close to it, therefore Eggman will simply not let Kratos get close to him to even do that. Plus the other two mechs that can protect Eggman, and the fact his powernull has no feats showing it can null someone as strong as the Time EaterDude, I said in the beginning that the chain blades and the blade of Olympus can do the same exact shit as the army of hades. Army of hades covers all of the minions, while he goes in for the chain blades or blade of Olympus which would drain time eater’s powers on contact, going as far as to making him from a god like being to a weak mortal.
And you ignoring the large amount of difference between the range of the fighters is just plain out the same equivalence as the previous points.are you paying attention to what I’ve been saying? The infinite army means Jack shit when they’re all infinitely weaker than Kratos and only 3 robots are the only ones on his level, and he just needs to hax the only one that’s a major threat and has the clairvoyance and sense to tell what he’s going to do and stop him.
The range is nothing when they’re 4 km apart. That’s not far enough that Kratos can’t close the gap in a small timeframeSAnd you ignoring the large amount of difference between the range of the fighters is just plain out the same equivalence as the previous points.
So? I never said it would instantly make an infinite army, but it's an endless one. That's if he can ever reach Eggman, two super forms have trouble with it and they are far more mobile than Kratos, Time Eater could literally just fly in space and Kratos probably couldn't reach him according to the page@Theuser789 that doesn’t sound like it would make an infinite army instantaneously, just that they’d make more and more over time, which Kratos can stop by just stopping the phantom Ruby by the time he’s done with Time eater and Eggman.
Being the same tier doesn't mean much, especially in tier 2, Eggman's mechs are scale to half 2-C while Kratos scales above baseline (from what I seen), that's definitvely a big enough gap that we can't just assume his powers would work forI'm calling bullcrap on Kratos not being able to null seeing how it's just higher up in the same tier as stuff it's already nulled.
All Eggman needs is a small timeframeThat’s not far enough that Kratos can’t close the gap in a small timeframeS
Time Eater has causality manip leading up to BFR and sealing via erasing history itself and instantly sending the erased timeline to white space, which he does at the start of the game, the thing is, how far can Kratos fly, that's where the range argument gains consistency, which you ignored since the start of the second page of this thread.Do you have any proof Time eater would do that when both clips of him erasing time does not show him doing that at all? Also Kratos can fly so that’s not really gonna stop him.
Doesn't change the fact of Eggman's mechs being stronger, a bigger infinity is not the same as having the same level of infinity, pretty good equivalence of your part.Well, yeah? Bigger Infinity is still infinity. It's not the same as the gap between, say, 2-C and 2-A or something.
Both clips show him in distance from the characters while erasing time, and during his fight with Super Sonic he is consistently show to be flying away from it, and again, both Sonics are far more mobile than Kratos, Kratos wouldn't even be able to reach where the final battle takes place (Ignoring the base Sonic "fight", since they were just playing around, plus Sonic already resisted the erasure)Do you have any proof Time eater would do that when both clips of him erasing time does not show him doing that at all? Also Kratos can fly so that’s not really gonna stop him.
no we can assume it would work on that level when the gap between tier 2 and anything below 2 is in the infinite range, which is what Zeus and hades powers can null.
same with Kratos to stab him with either blades.
Super Sonic has true flight, Kratos doesn't (EDIT: never mind, he has flight in one of his tabbers, but even then he hasn't show to be as nimble as Sonic), Base Sonic is show to be extreme agile and nimble while Kratos is more of a baserker, this is just pretty blatant. My point had nothing to do with location, it was to show the Time Eater actively tried to go out of range, if Kratos was there it wouldn't be able to follow it, the fact it takes place in Babylons Guarden is actualy worse for him because that's in space, and Kratos doesn't seem to have self sustenance in his page actualy (rip)@Theuser789 how are they more mobile than Kratos? You haven’t proven that beyond just saying it. Also ok? We’re not talking about the final place are we? We’re talking about Babylon gardens, something that isn’t the final area?
melee range that extends to hundreds of meters with the blades of chaos that Kratos can close the gap on so that point is moot.
Dimensional BFR by literally sending his opponent to a parallel universe or some sort? The range listed for his abilities aren't even close to 4-A.Just to throw that out there, but Blades of Olympus also have attacks and BFR with massive AoE.
You do know scaling chains do exist for a reason, right? We can't assume literally a one-shot condition can't happen even with the difference being unknown, all the feat of the Sol Emeralds and the Chaos Emeralds does is close the gap by being close to 2-C, but how far it is above baseline? it is unknown, yes, but it's definetly enough to a one-shot attempt.Also difference between Low2C and baseline 2C is unknown, not Infinity.
So Kratos can null anyone here just fine. Especially as I have already proven its unconventional and ignores power gap and resistance. Which no has a counter for.
Sonic has done the same ever since the 90s, he definitvely takes the mobile winner hereKratos is nimble enough when he’s capable of dodging numerous terrain mid flight, so that’s not exactly a point against Kratos.
read… what… I… said… Kratos closes in the gap fast and can hit Time eater, Universal range means Jack shit when you’re fighting a guy who can close in the gap and hax you before you can.
He still lacks the range to do so@The_Pink_God no that’s not the argument. Did you read the argument where I said he power nulls/absorbs Eggman’s weapons and can kill him afterward?
He has the range, end of story.A few hundred meters melee range by sheer virtue of size, likely several kilometers with god powers
Blades of Olympus AoE is hundreds of Kilometers.Dimensional BFR by literally sending his opponent to a parallel universe or some sort? The range listed for his abilities aren't even close to 4-
So??You do know scaling chains do exist for a reason, right? We can't assume literally a one-shot condition can't happen even with the difference being unknown, all the feat of the Sol Emeralds and the Chaos Emeralds does is close the gap by being close to 2-C, but how far it is above baseline? it is unknown, yes, but it's definetly enough to a one-shot attempt.
wait BFR is happen after sonic try to hit him ?Literally why? From what I have seen Kratos's hand thingys wouldn't even reach it before it happens