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Two of the most notable anime duo go at it
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized
4-A Versions are being used
SSJ and Kaio-Ken are restricted for both Goku and Vegeta
Naruto and Sasuke scale to 67.532 ExaFoe
Goku and Vegeta scale to 135 ExaFoe
Six Paths Adult Naruto and Adult Sasuke...
All the saiyans from the Toei continuity currently have Self-Sustenance for their supposed ability to survive in outer space indefinitely. However, I believe this to not be really true.
Right now the evidences supporting this are Bardock fighting in space/upper atmosphere, Vegeta and Nappa...
Sometime after cell, Gohan instead decides to continue his training instead of becoming a scholar, and with advice given to him by piccolo and Mr popo, they suggest to him to enter a variant of the training room where the Human Z fighters trained, where past and present from the HBTC pendulum...
This has happened a few times before.
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Saitama, the One-Punch Man
VS
Son Goku, the Saiyan God
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Buu Saga Goku • Peak Parallel Saitama • Saitama is Bloodlusted • Goku is In-Character • Speed Equalized • In a very large indestructible boxing ring • 20m Apart
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While both abilities are already on some of the Saiyan's profiles (Goku lifting a pyramid, Dirty Fireworks for Vegeta), this thread is for explaining the abilities further so the profiles can elaborate more on the aura of Dragon Ball characters, especially Saiyans. Examples of non Saiyans doing...
Thanks to the recent Toei upgrades, this matchup can happen now. I'm sure we've all seen those fanarts of SSJ Goku against Naruto.
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized
4-A Versions
SSJ Goku scales to 168.5 ExaFoe
Six Paths Naruto scales to 33.76 ExaFoe due to scaling twice above this...
Toei Goku has a 3-C key, and Satiama is also 3-C, so you know what that means!
Goku is in his Cell Saga Post RoSaT, starts at Half Power SSJ Grade 4 (>135 ZettaFoe at 50%, >270 ZettaFoe at 100%
Satiama is in his Post Balding "Current" Key (>>>70 ZettaFoe)
Battle takes place on a undestroyable...
As a follow up to this thread, which received unanimous agreement from staff and layman alike, I decided to revise the AP blog using many new statements and lines of scaling. The key changes are as follows:
Saiyan and Namek Sagas get huge multiplier changes and backscaling due to several...
As title says, we’re putting two Toeiverse characters against each other from the 90s. Now while yes one of them isn’t exactly from the 90s, the original SM anime is from that era so it works.
Anyway, we have:
GT Adult Goku vs Usagi Tsukino (Neo-Queen Serenity)
Rules:
Speed is NOT...
As title says, this is yet another Goku vs Naruto matchup. However, this one hopefully stays on their profiles whichever way it goes.
We have Toei Goku in his Saiyan Saga Key vs Part 2 Naruto in his SiX Paths key:
Speed is NOT equalized
Win by ANY conditions
Starting distance is 50 meters...
Now in the show we see Buu perform a similar feat to what Broly did, Occum's razor would suggest that Fat Buu would be High 3-A just like Broly as this is the justification for him:
This would explicitly make Buu either 3-C or 4-A
Although considering how Buu could tank his put up somewhat of...
Match Rules
Both in Character
Speed is Equalized
High 3-A Versions (Nashter vs Buu Saga SS3 Goku)
Location: Earth
Nashter:
Son Goku (Toei):
Inconclusive:
Nothing too controversial, but this calc used for Saiyan saga Vegeta is way off imo, as the planet keeps exploding for a while after the given timeframe (it's more like 6.08 to 7.95, not 5.69 to 6.36).
I've made this blog, which comes out to 10.935 Quettatons (Small Star level). Quite a...
Buu is probably the most deserving character to get a Toei Version, so yeah
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Adem_Warlock69/BUUU
It's basically a rework of Majin Buu's page with scans and references as well as well as additions and revisions here and there.
Multi-Galaxy Upgrades
This...
Well, the last one didn't go that smoothly... LET'S DO IT AGAIN!
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized.
5-A Versions
Baryon Mode Naruto scales to 3.128 Yottatons
BoZ / DeadZone Goku scales to 13.46 Yottatons
Village Hidden In These Hands vs Kakarot
Who wins and why?
This calculation is obviously made by Goku, which results in a 3-C, but why is his profile still 4-A? Janemba got 3-C from Goku ss3, can Hirudegarn with power equivalent to SS3 get 3-C?
I'm not following the DB, just some of my acquaintances who suspect this.
Why is this a thing?
On this page for example and this one we treat these guys as superior to Restricted SSJ Broly
Problem is, not even SSJ Vegeta (who according to these profiles is superior to him) could even scratch Broly.
If that's the case, why do we scale them to him when they can't...
Son Goku (Toei) VS Thor (MCU)
Starting Distance: 10m
Both in-character
Equalized speed
BoZ / Dead Zone Goku | Love and Thunder Thor in 5-A key
LOCATION:
Goku: 9 (@Coolboy6, @Vondoom, @Vizer04, @Spinoirr, @jojo123, @Dragonite007, @MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer, @Quantu, @Greatsage13th)
Thor...
Goku finally decides to fight a horni demon. Let's hope he can beat it for the best of all of us.
SBA is applied.
Son Goku (Toei): 1
King Uma: 0
Okay, never mind. This is Frieza Saga Goku after training in augmented gravity. So he should scale above 370 Tenatons.
This is Ragnarok Arc...
Cooler, not knowing of the Super Saiyan form or Kaioken, fought Base Goku and said that Goku could have defeated Frieza
This is also supported by Daizenshuu 7
So it's safe to assume Base Cooler is at least on par with Toei Frieza, putting him at 148 Kilotenatons (or ≈6 Foe)
Final Form...
Speed is equal
Cell saga ssj goku is being used and high 4-C blast
Goku has prior knowledge on blasts abilities
Takes place on planet of the kais
Standard battle assumptions
Goku (740 kilotenatons/0.74 foe): 2 (LnzO19)
Blast (1 foe): 2 (Pheonks, alexander, Viser04, Epiccheev)
Boros: 0
THE FIST THAT HAS TURNED AGAINST GOD
THE HOPE OF THE UNIVERSE
RULES
Parallel timeline Saitama and buu saga Goku (Toei) are being used
Goku stars at SSJ3
Speed is Equalized
Earth is indestructible
No BFR
Morals off
Bloodlusted
Wins by Death
LOCTION
Saitama:
Goku:
Inconclusive:
So before the 3-C status for Kid Buu and SSJ3 Goku was removed due to Fusion Reborn not being canon to the anime, one justification was that their fighting damaged the Planet of the Kais, which was the size of multiple galaxies.
Shouldn't that still make them 3-C, or at least 4-A+?
Both at 4-B and Speed Equalized.
Son Goku: 7 (@Arthex, @Knifeman29, @speedster352, @DaimaouAshura,@Vizer04, @Sonicflare9 and @AceOfSpaces3709)
Iczer-1:
Inconclusive:
Natsu vs Son Goku
speed is equal
both are 5-A
fight takes place in the First Fairy Tail Building
both are a 10 meters apart
Both are in-character
Pre-Elentear DF Natsu is being used
Son Goku: 10
Natsu Dragneel (100 Years Quest): 14
icon: 1
Son Goku (Toei) VS Asura (Asura's Wrath)
Fight Location: Cell Games Arena
Starting Distance: 5m
Both in-character
Equalized speed
Cell Saga Goku in FPSS | DF/S-AMF Asura
Goku:
Asura:
Inconclusive:
My suggestion was already agreed to here, but it wasn't applied since the thread kind of died out.
Basically, the celestial body next to Planet Plant/Vegeta isn't Earth (the scene is at 14:42 of Dragon Ball GT episode 31), rather a moon (one that King Kai canonically established as existing in...
Hello everyone, I've done many CRT's in the past, but this will be my first time touching on Dragon Ball, which is a topic just as hectic as Naruto and Bleach, but I'm taking my shot here. So GL to me.
Toei Goku has feats taken from all movies, except for Movie 14 and 15 for some reason. Sure...
This staff thread has been accepted. With it comes a much harder definition of what travel speed is
The Feat
Pikon and Goku fly to Hell in Episode 195 of Dragon Ball Z. The entire sequence is off screen and there's no indication that they had to react to anything from Point A to Point B.
As...
1. Space Time Continuum:
"In physics, spacetime is any mathematical model that fuses the three dimensions of space and the one dimension of time into a single four-dimensional continuum."
The Dragon Ball Universe is split into two "worlds". The Living World and the World Beyond. The Living...
One day Goku decided to steal some leeks from Miku. Needless to say. Miku isn't happy.
Battle takes place in outer space (Assume both can breathe in space btw) and speed is equalized
Goku is cell saga and 4-A. Miku is 4-A as well. both are bloodlusted.
Goku's Profile: 1 vote
Miku's Profile...
so this thread was about separating the toei z Goku page from movie scaling but that would be redundant cuz separating it would just have 2 versions of essentially the same Goku with a few new stuff, but people suggested to just drop movie scaling and have just anime z Goku scaling just on the...
This revision would focus on two small things:
1. This re-calculation of King Vegeta destroying planets feat got evaluated and the high end was accepted
This affects all Toeiverse DB High 5-As and the current calc would need to be linked to the profiles instead of Amelia's old calculation...
Raditz Saga Toei Goku VS Majestia
* Standard Battle Assumptions (5-A versions are used. Speed is equalized. Battle takes place in the Cell Games Arena)
* Victory can be achieved by any means
* Goku: 8 (Planck69, sanicspood, Shmooply, Havok, Oleggator, LightReinh12345, Tots_Real, Oleggator)
*...