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Son Goku vs Iczer-1 (GRACE)

Knifeman29 said:
I don't think she does any of that in combat. i'm gonna have to rewatch it and see
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Well no one told me that when I asked abt it, and considering all of the abilities were in her second key, I thought it is some kind of power up where she gets serious and uses all her op abilities
 
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Arthex said:
Well no one told me that when I asked, and considering all of the abilities was in her second thought, I thought it is some kind of power up where she gets serious and uses all her op abilities
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she gets the abilities of the main antagonist but she still fights the same.
 
Knifeman29 said:
she gets the abilities of the main antagonist but she still fights the same.
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So she dosent use any of those in a fight? Goku punches her to death then ( considering its goku, I m gonna assume he has the higher ap in this key aswell )
 
Vizer04 said:
That's correct


He comes close with KKx20 though
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Still 2.3x advantage, not enough to one shot but not enough to lose when you are trash at fighting either.

We gotta remember goku can only maintain 20x for sometime, if goku can't beat a opponent in few hits while using kioaken, its useless imo.
 
One look at Iczer and I can't shake this feeling she's got hax that would end Goku with great prejudice, if only anyone in the thread knew how she uses it
 
DaimaouAshura said:
One look at Iczer and I can't shake this feeling she's got hax that would end Goku with great prejudice, if only anyone in the thread knew how she uses it
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transmutation turns people into monsters
mind manipulation is her changing the memories of everyone on earth so no one new what happened during the events of the series
and time reversal was also used at the end to undo the damage to the earth
this all comes from reality warping
she doesn't do any of this in combat
Arthex said:
Still 2.3x advantage, not enough to one shot but not enough to lose when you are trash at fighting either.

We gotta remember goku can only maintain 20x for sometime, if goku can't beat a opponent in few hits while using kioaken, its useless imo.
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Iczers feat was done with her strongest attack and left her and someone comparable to her too weak to fight anyone for days. so her normal power should be alot less than that
 
Knifeman29 said:
transmutation turns people into monsters
mind manipulation is her changing the memories of everyone on earth so no one new what happened during the events of the series
and time reversal was also used at the end to undo the damage to the earth
this all comes from reality warping
she doesn't do any of this in combat
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Goku resists none of this transmutation or memory voodoo in this key lmao
If she can time reversal on top of having the better registered AP I'm voting Iczer
Even if she doesn't have an habit of using them in combat Goku has no resistance, anytime she might use it it'll just work
 
DaimaouAshura said:
Goku resists none of this transmutation or memory voodoo in this key lmao
If she can time reversal on top of having the better registered AP I'm voting Iczer
Even if she doesn't have an habit of using them in combat Goku has no resistance, anytime she might use it it'll just work
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she wont use them. even when she was about to die she didn't use any of these
 
Knifeman29 said:
transmutation turns people into monsters
mind manipulation is her changing the memories of everyone on earth so no one new what happened during the events of the series
and time reversal was also used at the end to undo the damage to the earth
this all comes from reality warping
she doesn't do any of this in combat

Iczers feat was done with her strongest attack and left her and someone comparable to her too weak to fight anyone for days. so her normal power should be alot less than that
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Goku fra
 
also I'm realizing
'Given he can use kaio-ken x100, it is unlikely that most of the lesser levels of kaio-ken would do any extensive damage'
 
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