The 2 strongest guys fight | Goku (Toei) vs Satiama

[Brogeefrong]

Toei Goku has a 3-C key, and Satiama is also 3-C, so you know what that means!
Goku is in his Cell Saga Post RoSaT, starts at Half Power SSJ Grade 4 (>135 ZettaFoe at 50%, >270 ZettaFoe at 100%
Satiama is in his Post Balding "Current" Key (>>>70 ZettaFoe)
Battle takes place on a undestroyable galaxy sized mushroom kingdom
Speed is equalized
and everything else is SBA
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The Saiyan Beyond Limits:0

The Abominable Fist That Turned Against God:0

Crying about it (incon):0

 

[Robo432343]

AP shockwave kills saitama...

 

[Employe]

Disagree with Saitama being only 33.6 exafoe, even if serious punch was halfed with Garou, they are both still was able to withstand this combined power.

But anyway Goku destroys him: He already have astronomicaly higher AP in base, way more abilities and transformation which allows him become even stronger. Not to mention his skill advantage. Only way for Saitama to win if he use his reactive evolution, but why Goku will not prevent this?

 

[Brogeefrong]

AP shockwave kills saitama...

In base Goku dosent one shot Satiama

 

[Brogeefrong]

. Only way for Saitama to win if he use his reactive evolution, but why Goku will not prevent this?

Goku is gonna likely prolong the fight

 

[Employe]

Isn't Saitama needed Genos' death to start grow in strength?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Isn't Saitama needed Genos' death to start grow in strength?

It becomes greater when he's experience an upsurge of emotions, but he still has it

 

[Employe]

But Goku still oneshots tho

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Goku takes this.

 

[Brogeefrong]

But Goku still oneshots tho

Goku isnt gonna straight away go to ssj, since he's likely gonna prolong the fight

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

SBA is that the opponent is an enemy. Goku is gonna do one move in base and then start escalating immediately.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

This misconception that Goku always prolongs fights is tiring. He only does that if he has something to gain out of a fight, and even then, if he has an advantage, he maintains the advantage

 

[EnderLord8]

Goku isnt gonna straight away go to ssj, since he's likely gonna prolong the fight

I agree, in his base Goku doesn't have enough AP to give a one-shot and it's in his character to prolong the fight as much as possible, which could give Saitama an opportunity.

 

[Brogeefrong]

SBA is that the opponent is an enemy. Goku is gonna do one move in base and then start escalating immediately.

Goku still prolonged the fight while fighting frieza

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Goku still prolonged the fight while fighting frieza

Until he saw him planning to destroy the planet and just offed him.

 

[Ss3micah]

Goku isnt gonna straight away go to ssj, since he's likely gonna prolong the fight

Based on the Goku vs Jiren fight
I call BS

Sure it happens way later….. but in Round 1 of the fight we got krillin to perfectly explain Goku’s fighting style especially against opponents he doesn’t know. Goku will start out in base but immediately jump to SS forms the moment he realizes Base does nothing

We also see in fights against Nappa, Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, Android 19, Majin Vegeta and Buu that Goku is no slouch to taking fights seriously and using transformations of the bat the moment he gets overwhelmed or he realizes his current power isn’t enough

 

[Ss3micah]

Goku still prolonged the fight while fighting frieza

You realized against Frieza he was constantly using the lower levels of Kioken the moment he realized 50% Frieza was no joke as King Kai pointed out
Goku didn’t slouch to use KK the moment he noticed 50% Frieza was that guy

 

[Brogeefrong]

Well if andriod saga dosent work, maybe i can use frieza saga

 

[Brogeefrong]

with the frieza saga change, is satiama gonna one shot even if he goes casual?

 

[Brogeefrong]

Bump

 

[Ednaxel2]

I don't see Saitama winning this, in character Goku would soon recognize the gap between their strength and instantly use Kaioken x10 like against Frieza

 

[Brogeefrong]

I don't see Saitama winning this, in character Goku would soon recognize the gap between their strength and instantly use Kaioken x10 like against Frieza

Goku’s only gonna be equal with Satiama at that point

 

[Ednaxel2]

Goku’s only gonna be equal with Satiama at that point

wouldn't that be enough? He is more skilled and Saitama doesn't have any hax that can seal the deal

 

[Brogeefrong]

wouldn't that be enough? He is more skilled and Saitama doesn't have any hax that can seal the deal

He has ad

 

[Ss3micah]

Assuming this is End of Frieza Saga Goku or at least Goku after Turning into a Super Saiyan against Frieza then Goku still wins more times that not.

As seen during the battle on namek, Goku powered down from Super Saiyan down to base form after giving Frieza the biggest roast of his Life. Then Frieza tried to back shot Goku and Goku immediately powered back up into Super Saiyan and that was despite Frieza’s already battered and weakened state.

Point being,
Goku has the ability to sense power levels so he’d be able to differentiate the gap in power levels quite easily and quickly. Once he deduced that his base and KKx10 is no good. He’s gonna resort to KKx20 or SS to take Saitama down.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

The only way Goku wins is if he immediately goes Super Saiyan and uses his strongest Kamehameha, otherwise Saitama just kinda RPLs to Goku's level and wins

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Saitama is not making up the speed blitz differences Goku gains from Kaio-ken and Super Saiyan

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Saitama's RPL also affects speed, no?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Saitama's RPL also affects speed, no?

What I was implying is that he's not making up a 20 times speed difference

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Once Saitama reaches no-sell levels to Goku's attacks, don't think his speed increase being slow will matter too much

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Given he's not at the level of AD he experiences when feeling an upsurge of emotion, I doubt he'll even get the chance to reach that level before Goku incapacitates him

With Kaio-Ken, Goku is twice as strong and 20 times as fast. As a Super Saiyan, Goku will be five times as strong and 50 times faster

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Isn't it accepted that Saitama's rapid rate of growth also kicks in when he's fighting someone at his level?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I don't fckin know

 

[Brogeefrong]

Assuming this is End of Frieza Saga Goku or at least Goku after Turning into a Super Saiyan against Frieza then Goku still wins more times that not.

As seen during the battle on namek, Goku powered down from Super Saiyan down to base form after giving Frieza the biggest roast of his Life. Then Frieza tried to back shot Goku and Goku immediately powered back up into Super Saiyan and that was despite Frieza’s already battered and weakened state.

Point being,
Goku has the ability to sense power levels so he’d be able to differentiate the gap in power levels quite easily and quickly. Once he deduced that his base and KKx10 is no good. He’s gonna resort to KKx20 or SS to take Saitama down.

Ig vote counted

 

[Phoenks]

Satiama is in his Post Balding "Current" Key (>33.6 Exafoe, cause apparently the serious punch 2 was halfed for Garou and Satiama)

Not halved. They both took the full force without damage, and then did more damage with each-other's punches.

Goku is in his Frieza saga key, Starts in base and can go up to SSJ (>3.37 ExaFoe in base, >67.4 Exafoe in Kaioken 20x, >135 Exatons in SSJ)

Goku gets one-shot in base unless he instant transforms.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Saitama can't sense how strong Goku is, so lad probably won't use a really powerful punch at first

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Saitama can't sense how strong Goku is, so lad probably won't use a really powerful punch at first

Given the strength difference, a casual punch will still HURT

Goku will sense Saitama's power level, however, and immediately transform

 

[Brogeefrong]

Not halved. They both took the full force without damage, and then did more damage with each-other's punches.


Goku gets one-shot in base unless he instant transforms.

Changed satiama into 67 exafoe then

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Most of Saitama's casual punches don't go over High 6-A tho
Lad would also probably let Goku get the first hit

 

[Phoenks]

Anyway, the main problem here are the speed amps. How big of a speed amp do Goku's transformations give him?

If they aren't significant enough, Saitama likely just outgrows Goku eventually. I don't even think Goku would be able to do much damage.

He was completely unscratched by the 67 ExaFoe blast. Garou even mentions that.

And even after both of them grew far past that value, Saitama was essentially unharmed the entire fight and just continued exponentially going up.

If Goku makes Saitama get serious, it's completely over for him, though. Serious Saitama could copy all of his techniques effortlessly.