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I have a question about official translations compared to their original counterparts.
Can a translation be used to specify a vaguer statement in the original version? For example, if someone says that they're many times stronger in Japanese, but in English they say they're specifically, say...
This chapter was good, very good. Giants and Madjinns vs Visionaries in the next chapter if Jesus blesses us
Anyway
Now a question: Is this Data Manipulation or Information Manipulation?
Alright, so as everyone hopefully knows we have standards for multipliers. I want to clarify and add some things on that page.
This is in regard to the following paragraph
Now, this is one of the most important parts of the page. The point is that verses aren't supposed to be able to...
Well i have found some guidebooks that states that Luffy speed increased 10 fold using gear 2
I don't think this is a absurd considering he was relative to blueno in base and using gear 2 was able to outmatch Lucci so what do you guys think?
Look, we need to talk about Gamera in G3. It's pretty basic scaling, but G3 Gamera is visibly stronger than in the previous two movies. Here's what I mean.
In the first movie, the Gyaos could cut through steel cages in their weakest state, which we will refer to as 1st state. Later, they grew...
Look, we need to talk about Gamera in G3. It's pretty basic scaling, but G3 Gamera is visibly stronger than in the previous two movies. Here's what I mean.
In the first movie, the Gyaos could cut through steel cages in their weakest state, which we will refer to as 1st state. Later, they grew...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SSJRyu1/DBS_Conservative_Speed_Multipliers
Currently we have Pre-ToP SSJB Goku at only At least 4.9 Sextillion c by able to match Hit, who match Universe 6 Saga SSjB Goku while using KKx10.
However this doesn't take into account that the large power...
I am going to be debunking this thread.
Firstly on the databook files. The files literally talk about what each person is best at. Sage mode is noted to enhance literally everything a person can do. How ever the sound are good at specific things. The funny thing is when it comes to Sakon it...
If someone's power was stated to be a "magnitude" above others, would that make said characters power at least 2x greater that the people they are referring to?
New multiplier accepted, the SSJ Multiplier. 50x. Let's go over that.
There are multiple options here.
ten-fold statement [REJECTED]
Saiyan Saga Goku was >0.745c, and therefore >2.98c in his Kaioken 4x state. Fine.
Start of Namek Saga, his power and speed were stated to have increased...
Note: this is NOT to change Void Termina's or any Kirby character speeds, just a question and nothing more
So I know as of right now the Jamba Hearts crossing the universe calc is still in discussion and needs to be approved, but my question is this
One Jamba Heart would scale to Kirby and the...
So, currently, what verse/character has the highest multipliers?
It does not need to be a single multiplier, i am counting things like, a 100x after another 100x, for example.
1- 10x10x10x10x10x...ad infinitum
5,783,458,765,666²
2- 10'000'000'000 (speed only)
3- 7,348,224
4- 268,800
5-...
Finally I've returned after some pause, and I want to address an issue I noticed time ago.
There are examples of characters who are 2-B because of scalings from 2-C characters, like Takion or Asriel Dreemurr, but there are also ones as Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo or Grand Priest, who are extremely above...
Hello, as you can see by the title of this thread this'll be going over the current.
This is in regards to some inconsistents regarding on how we treat our multiplier standards. Going by the wiki page multipliers are only to be given out if they're outright stated, and here's the actual passage...
The High 7-A and 7-C calcs were rendered false by calc group members; so this changes the justification for literally every profile in the verse, except Doctor Shamal. at least until we can get someone to re-do the calcs or propose other feats to calc.
The 7-A+ and 8-A calcs are still legit, so...
So a character has a freezing feat for creating a giant ice statue while poisoned and vastly weakened to the point that he is incapable of standing, which is the basis for the multiplier. Previously he casually created five ice clones to toy with his opponents, and stated that each clone is as...
Do we give multipliers for destroying many things?
If a character takes out hundreds of ships, kills dozens of characters, etc. with one attack, would their AP be those entities' durability multiplied by the number of them killed?
If to destroy for example 2 universes your power has to reach a certain unquantifiable distance, isn't that just range? For example what would happen if someone who is 2x Baseline Low 2-C has 2-C range? Sorry for the stupid question, but it just came to mind. Beerus and Champa feat was argued to...
I wanted to propose to remove the multipliers that lead the characters to 7-A+ and High 7-A, the only multiplier we shouldn't remove is Redan's (which is consistent) and that makes serious Data Zahard twice as strong as Data Maschenny with Redan (because it has a large scale that makes this...
Hi. This is something I have problems with, not only me but some staff members as well.
Dragon Ball's rating for both speed and AP is based purely on multipliers.
About speed, they jump from Relativistic to Relativistic+, and then, the Relativistic+ speed becomes their base speed. After this...
There is only Frieza's High 5-A 1.7 tenatons feat.I get that low 4-C comes from Kaioken x20,which will be 34 Tenatons.The low 4-C capes at 136 tenatons.We don't give characters in the same tier a tier upgrade just because they are superior to another if there is even a chain of superiority.Only...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Crimson_Azoth/An_eagle_aligns_planets,_God_bless_%27Merica_-_Animal_Kaiser
So, this calc was accepted at High 4-C, being around 674x away from 4-B for the fodder animals. There is a 2nd one which is an higher end of High 4-C but needs to be evaluated...
So, on the Naruto wiki it says that the 8th gate gives the user 100x their normal power including speed, would we be able to apply this to his speed as well? If true would this be acceptable to use on this wiki? https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Eight_Gates
Here is a raw of the databook...
So in this thread we can mess around with multipliers in Dragon Ball. Multipliers are known to be inconsistent, mainly ssj2 and 3 so because of that they're not accepted on the wiki. In this thread however we can go in depth on how strong we think these transformations are. I'll start with my...
So I know a it's a rule that no amount of Low 2-C multipliers will get you to 2-C, because the diatances between universes are unquantifiable. So what about multipliers for 2-C to 2-B or even 2-A? The diayance between universes is unquantifiable, but by making an explosion big enough to cover 2...
I did a similar thread in the past, i propose two versions without the powerlevels scaling or only Kaioken Boosts.
Note 1: The first version was rejected because it abused powerlevels scaling.
2] Without Powerlevels Scaling:
Saiyan Saga:
- Remains the same.
Vegeta Saga:
- Full Power Nappa...
I dunno why final form Freeza got downgraded to High 5-A, though the other forms staying at that level is fine. I realize there was another thread about this, but I figured I may as well make my own with actual suggestions on how to change this massive gap between Frieza and the Androids.
Final...
With the new multiplier regulations, time to try out a CRT for them.
Koyomi Araragi tanked this 9-A punch when almost all of his vampirism was gone.
During this same arc, a specialist in vampires, Oshino Meme said
Of course, even if you power up by giving Shinobu-chan as much of your...