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Hey, so getting multipliers via scaling as opposed to using the stated ones is kind of dogshit, how about we change that and bring examples on how that could lead to some very big problems?
Oh and,
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Referring to this part of the page
Does the feats displayed have to be on the level of the Tier the multiplier gets the character to?
For example, Character A is 7-A via powerscaling but when fighting, his DC is usually between the 9-B/8-C range. He then gets 500x stronger.
Does he need to show...
This thread is to include some statistics difference between characters in dlaoik to upgrade froggy 2 and those who scale.
Basically for the upgrade;
Sun Rong's spiritual force amount is 2019 and Froggy 2's even in his sealed form is in 5 digits so basically at least 10K, he suppresses it to 5K...
Remake of these two threads...
Summary
After the recent CRT for High 4-C Super Mario characters with Power Star keys was accepted, I decided to create another thread discussing the number of Power Stars from a few games. For this CRT, I'll be using multipliers to explain why I believe the cast...
Summary
As the title implies, this thread is an attempt at giving the cast of Super Mario Bros. a 3-B key for their profiles. For this CRT, I'll be using evidence of the Power Stars acting as multipliers along with different talking points, implications, and assumptions I compiled to back up the...
So, currently, SSJ3 doesn't have a multiplier. This thread will try to apply one
What Episode 5 has shown:
1-2: Goku vs Beerus starts, Whis thinks he has time to have a lunch
3-5: Goku transforms into Super Saiyan. Beerus considers it a slight power boost. After seeing them fight, Whis...
Does the wiki accepts lowballed statements about multipliers that aren't directly stated? For example, if a character's power is stated to be multiplied, increased by several times, or many-fold
Intro
I’m going to discuss whether the Hollow Mask should be a 5x multiplier to all stats or not.
Evidence
In the databook Masked, it’s stated three separate times that the Hollow mask is an immense amp to your spiritual power/combat ability/power. In the databook Unmasked, it’s stated that the...
Hi
Opening the Gate of Death grants you dozens stat amp on whatever your previous physical stat was
The least possible value for this is 24
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
Okay, I asked in the questions and answers section and was told that there was no low-balled value for ssj2 and 3
Now I know the *2 and *4 values aren't accepted here. However, they can't just be "unknown" because that's the same as saying they don't multiply by anything, basically saying ssj2...
This will be going over the ap scaling and use of multipliers within the series. I am making this to get the scaling out the way so it won't be done later and can be referenced later on. Every calc mentioned here can also be found on the Witch Hunter page
Note: I’ll be using the letters DE to...
So from what I have seen, multipliers in tier 2 is mainly declined due to the fact that a Low 2c character wouldn't be able to affect the space outside the universe, which is possibly higher dimensional(?), but what about 2c characters? I mean, 2c characters can affect the space/void between...
Several vs Many
So I've been wondering about 数倍 (Several times) vs 何倍 (Many times) for a while now because in one series I was working on it is shown that there are many forms that are stated to be a several times boost but are also stated to be many times boost at the same time or have a...
Basically, a thing that I have always asked to myself is why Spamton NEO is not x3 stronger than his base self despite him stating so.
Is there a reason which I've missed? Because I never got an explanation to why despite searching anywhere here.
I'm talking just about the SS2 and SS3 multipliers since we do accept SSJ as a x50 boost in AP and speed.
The main argument against the use of these multipliers (x2 and x4 for SS2 and SS3, respectively) is because they're portrayed as huge boosts in the series (Gohan being weaker than Cell as a...
This post was continue from this, this, this and this.
And yes according what our new standart multiplier it says that we need direct statements for multipliers. No statement means no multiplier. Plus this is was high multiplier which even statement alone itself doesn't enough to be, and need...
Based on this. I disagree with how this is applied, but since it is accepted on the site...
High-class wizards are able to amplify their body's capabilities to the limit using magic
Strenghtening Magic its a physical boost
This allows wizards to be able to amplify their speed
Doom, by...
Zius mentions to his Even Horizon
"I told you that Have a special power.. That power is Compression. I become weak and the power that I lose become Compressed and Accumulates. When freed, I can use the compressed power... for only five minutes. The longer It accumulates, The greater The power...
Combined Attack Multipliers are currently help together by ducktape and some sticks. It's getting abused, and when something this iffy is being abused to this extent, I believe opening a new debate on it is best. I will begin by stating a counterargument for our current interpretation. From...
In the novel Sakura Hiden, a tailed beast drug was introduced by the main antagonist of the novel, Tsukiki Kido
These drugs was said to increase the power of the user by orders of magnitude. These statement was further reinforced by Sakura upon combat with him
The drug was shown to enhance...
While this verse does have a more explicit multiplier that's already accepted for creating a Mighty Statue, it has some more vague stuff too.
After the protagonist creates some more Mighty Statues, they get to work on a new monument, the Godly Statue. After it's completed, they sing its...
I have a question about official translations compared to their original counterparts.
Can a translation be used to specify a vaguer statement in the original version? For example, if someone says that they're many times stronger in Japanese, but in English they say they're specifically, say...
This chapter was good, very good. Giants and Madjinns vs Visionaries in the next chapter if Jesus blesses us
Anyway
Now a question: Is this Data Manipulation or Information Manipulation?
Alright, so as everyone hopefully knows we have standards for multipliers. I want to clarify and add some things on that page.
This is in regard to the following paragraph
Now, this is one of the most important parts of the page. The point is that verses aren't supposed to be able to...
Well i have found some guidebooks that states that Luffy speed increased 10 fold using gear 2
I don't think this is a absurd considering he was relative to blueno in base and using gear 2 was able to outmatch Lucci so what do you guys think?
Look, we need to talk about Gamera in G3. It's pretty basic scaling, but G3 Gamera is visibly stronger than in the previous two movies. Here's what I mean.
In the first movie, the Gyaos could cut through steel cages in their weakest state, which we will refer to as 1st state. Later, they grew...
Look, we need to talk about Gamera in G3. It's pretty basic scaling, but G3 Gamera is visibly stronger than in the previous two movies. Here's what I mean.
In the first movie, the Gyaos could cut through steel cages in their weakest state, which we will refer to as 1st state. Later, they grew...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SSJRyu1/DBS_Conservative_Speed_Multipliers
Currently we have Pre-ToP SSJB Goku at only At least 4.9 Sextillion c by able to match Hit, who match Universe 6 Saga SSjB Goku while using KKx10.
However this doesn't take into account that the large power...
I am going to be debunking this thread.
Firstly on the databook files. The files literally talk about what each person is best at. Sage mode is noted to enhance literally everything a person can do. How ever the sound are good at specific things. The funny thing is when it comes to Sakon it...
If someone's power was stated to be a "magnitude" above others, would that make said characters power at least 2x greater that the people they are referring to?
New multiplier accepted, the SSJ Multiplier. 50x. Let's go over that.
There are multiple options here.
ten-fold statement [REJECTED]
Saiyan Saga Goku was >0.745c, and therefore >2.98c in his Kaioken 4x state. Fine.
Start of Namek Saga, his power and speed were stated to have increased...
Note: this is NOT to change Void Termina's or any Kirby character speeds, just a question and nothing more
So I know as of right now the Jamba Hearts crossing the universe calc is still in discussion and needs to be approved, but my question is this
One Jamba Heart would scale to Kirby and the...
So, currently, what verse/character has the highest multipliers?
It does not need to be a single multiplier, i am counting things like, a 100x after another 100x, for example.
1- 10x10x10x10x10x...ad infinitum
5,783,458,765,666²
2- 10'000'000'000 (speed only)
3- 7,348,224
4- 268,800
5-...
Finally I've returned after some pause, and I want to address an issue I noticed time ago.
There are examples of characters who are 2-B because of scalings from 2-C characters, like Takion or Asriel Dreemurr, but there are also ones as Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo or Grand Priest, who are extremely above...
Hello, as you can see by the title of this thread this'll be going over the current.
This is in regards to some inconsistents regarding on how we treat our multiplier standards. Going by the wiki page multipliers are only to be given out if they're outright stated, and here's the actual passage...
The High 7-A and 7-C calcs were rendered false by calc group members; so this changes the justification for literally every profile in the verse, except Doctor Shamal. at least until we can get someone to re-do the calcs or propose other feats to calc.
The 7-A+ and 8-A calcs are still legit, so...