This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
This was originally going to be a discussion on speed stats being outdated and how some characters aren't scaled up properly, but when looking through wiki articles, I came across something of a paradox when it comes to the scaling and discussion of who's superior to whom, so im going to bring...
Not sure if this was pointed out, but I feel like it should be addressed. I have no scan for it, but in the scene where Goku, Vegeta, and Broly was training in Beerus' planet Vegeta said how Jiren's power was hardly different then his or Goku's and he was only that strong because he knew how to...
DBS, Anime Canon.
In this version of reality, by sheer luck, and adherance to the strategies of Gohan, Team Universe 7, in their entirety, make it to the final fight. Jiren alone stands against this unstoppable onslaught of warriors. Vegeta, mightiest warrior in the realm, has been carrying his...
Rules:
At least Low 2-C versions is used. Metal fury kyoya is used. Base jiren is used.
Battle takes place in the Tournament of Power arena.
They have prior knowledge.
jiren focuse on attacking leone.
Votes kyoya: (perfil link https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kyoya_Tategami_(Beyblade)
Votes...
1. Buu's profile says that he matched SSJ3 Goku (which the Daizenshuu supports), while Manga Goku's profile says that his SSJ3 form easily beat Innocent Buu.
While the Daizenshuu supports Buu equally SSJ3 Goku, Kid Buu stomped Fat Buu but matched SSJ3 so to me that seems to indicate that SSJ3...
Location: Tournament of Power Arena
Win method: KO or being thrown out of the arena. Goku and Vegeta's side will lose only if both are eliminated
Rules, mindset, etc. : Exactly the same as in the Tournament of Power
Forms used: Goku in UI Sign 3 (no MUI in this fight), Vegeta is in SSBE...
The Universe 6 Kaioshin stated that the force of Jiren's ki would crush them when he powered up against final UIO Goku. He could just be talking to the immediate U6 members, and U12's haikaishin is present in the shot. Either way, Belmod responds to him with, "Who cares? It doesn't matter so...
Beast Gohan vs Jiren The Gray
Fight takes place in a forcefield dome that is made by whis
Beast Gohan: 3 (@FluffyCreatureZ, @Dr._whiteee and @Kin201)
Jiren The Gray: 5 (@CiscoTheSoto, @Mickey1940, @Vizer04 and @Greatsage13th, @jojo123)
Icon: 1 (@Chianli)
Fight takes place on the tournament of power
This fight has zero power scaling and just on a narrative level
Natsu teaches a friendless loser the meaning of friendship:
Jiren stays lonely and dead inside:
INTRODUCTION
Scaling in Dragon Ball Super was confusing me a lot ,i did some detective pikachu level research and came to a conclusion that the ratings are indeed sus and very cleverly put on their profiles.
We have Base Jiren Rated as Low 2-C On the basis of him being stronger infinite Zamasu ...
I’m curious because Goku moved in the white void where zeno erased time and then when Goku beat Jiren who was stated to transcend time. Would this count as Goku having immeasurable speed?
Rules
Stats are equalized in all rounds before the characters inevitably start amping themselves
Awakened Garou: Cosmic Fear Mode is used
Location: Tournament of Power Arena
Matches
Round 1: Beerus
Round 2: Golden Frieza
Round 3: Hit
Round 4: Goku Black and Future Zamasu
Round 5: Fusion...
Currently We Have Jiren as Low 2-C due to the following reason :
A Number characters scales to Low 2-C due to the above mentioned statement.
Could anyone Link the exact scene from where this has been brought up because the scan on his profile (the mightiest foe in Dragon Ball history) looks...
So yeah been wanting to do this match for a while due to how similar of a presence these two give off in their respective series with them being the strongest of their series in their respective arcs and casually beating up everyone as well as singlehandedly increasing the scaling of their...
Well, I'm not sure why this hasn't been done yet, anyways, I will be covering this:
-Well, as you can clearly see, in the first video, 17 was able to trick Jiren and damage him.
-In the second one, 17 cought Jiren and damaged him with a explosive barrier. Jiren got severaly injured...
Jiren cannot be more powerful than Infinite Zamasu. The main reason he is considered such is because of him being stated to be the "strongest foe in dragon ball history". However the problem is that nobody has actually fought Infinite Zamasu properly, and they required Zeno to eventually defeat...
Toppo should probably have invulnerability because the aura around him erasing incoming attacks is something like a form of invulnerability. Or maybe power nullification, since it erases energy and acts as a type of attack negation ability.
Jiren should have resistance to time manipulation...
A few techniques to add to the profile
Mighty Explosive Wave - Jiren releases a massive amount of ki in all directions to overwhelm his opponent. After powering up, ki is shown to constantly expel outwards from his body without much effort. However it can be dispelled with enough force.
Power...
Stumbled upon this interpretation so I thought I’d get a rebuttal from here
We assume that Infinite Zamasu was fusing with universe’s space-time due to him appearing in the main timeline, but there’s a potential alternative explanation.
When Trunks’ time machine passes through time it leaves a...
Well, I tried one matchup for Zeus and it didn't work out so well. Hopefully this one will go better.
Base Zeus vs Full Power Jiren, Speed equalized.
Zeus wins: 0
Jiren wins: 0
Incon: 0
Idk if this is another taboo topic for the dragon ball verse (since apparently a lot is) but I wanted to try at least.
So we know from this scan that speed and power level within dragon ball is linear, and from this scan (daizenshuu 7 world view) that power/strength is what determines power...
So currently on Toppo's profile he has void manipulation for being able to warp the World of Void. Since Goku and Jiren were able to shake the entire World of Void which has been described (0:13) as "a world without time or space, filled with infinite nothingness", they should get void...
1. UIO3 Goku, MUI Goku, LSSJ Broly, and Jiren should have Low Multiversal range via scaling to GoDs. I know that scaling to a character in terms of strength doesn't necessarily mean you have their range, but then why do people like Cabba and others have universal range?
2. Piccolo should...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Jiren
I mean, his first key should not be Low 2-C, but At least Low 2-C, as Jiren already was stated to be a mortal that a god of destruction cannot defeat, which puts him above Belmond.
Statement before TOP:
Statement during TOP:
Having not been satisfied with the previous Tournament of Power, Lord Zen'o has gathered fighters from across the Multiverse, living and dead alike, for a new and exciting tournament. Using his power, Zen'o has created a new universe for it all to take place in, one populated by Pokemon!
The...
Hello uh, you know how the gods of destruction scale to "at least low 2-C" because two GoDs together are capable of performing a 2-C feat? This means the GoDs scale to "half 2-C" so the difference between them and 2-C is 2x. This is how the angels are scaled to 2-C. Anyway there are actually...
Jiren vs Winter Soldier
All stats are equal, neither is allowed to harm the other or attempt to. Contestants start 1 meter apart. First to blink loses.
The Universal+ resident of Universe 11:
Some Building level dude:
Jiren (Dragon Ball Super) VS Broly (Dragon Ball Super)
Burning Ultimate Warrior Jiren and Super Saiyan (Full Power) Broly will be used
Both in character
Starting Distance: 100 Meters
Jiren:
Broly:
Inconclusive:
(merely illustrative images)
I am not implying Jiren is stronger than Beerus here, but since he scales above Belmod; both him and Third Omen Goku should get also an at least Low 2-C rating.
Edit: also advocating for everyone who scales to the GoDs (UI Goku, Jiren, Gogeta and Broly) to get their range upgraded to Low...
Both are Low 2-C
Super Knuckles is used
Burning Ultimate Warrior Jiren is used
Speed is equal
Super Knuckles:
Jiren (BUW): 4 (KingTempest, InfiniteDay, DatOneWeeb, ElixirBlue)
Inconclusive: