Knuckles the Echidna Vs Jiren the Gray

[AccelerAx]

Both are Low 2-C

Super Knuckles is used

Burning Ultimate Warrior Jiren is used

Speed is equal

Super Knuckles:

Jiren (BUW): 4 (KingTempest, InfiniteDay, DatOneWeeb, ElixirBlue)

Inconclusive:

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Jiren one shots by farting.

 

[AccelerAx]

Jiren one shots by farting.

Knuckles has a passive forcefield around him

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Jiren is half 2-C, so it's basically an infinite difference in strength.

 

[00potato]

No, it’s just unquantifiable.
So he is a lot stronger, but you can’t say how much.
(Unless he one shots another on Knuckles’ level.)

 

[AccelerAx]

Super knuckles was able to defeat the phantom king who is capable of creating entire dimensions like nullspace which was stated to go on forever.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

That's infinite 3D plus space time, which is still baseline low 2-C. Jiren one shots.

 

[KingTempest]

Jiren FRA

 

[InfiniteDay]

For some reason you can be half 2-C even though that would rationally make you low 2-C on this wiki

Jiren FRA

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

For some reason you can be half 2-C even though that would rationally make you low 2-C on this wiki

Jiren FRA

Ain't my fault the wiki doesn't know what to do with itself.

 

[InfiniteDay]

Ain't my fault the wiki doesn't know what to do with itself.

The universes in DBS are pretty close so they could destroy both but they only really can affect one but they can affect both so 1/2 2-C is good, and everyone agreed

 

[AccelerAx]

The universes in DBS are pretty close so they could destroy both but they only really can affect one but they can affect both so 1/2 2-C is good, and everyone agreed

It states on knuckles profile that his superform is potentially 2-C

 

[InfiniteDay]

Potentially≠Is

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Pretty sure Jiren stomps unless you make Knuckles bloodlusted so he would even stand a chance here

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

It states on knuckles profile that his superform is potentially 2-C

You’re using the low 2-C key for this fight, nit the 2-C one.

 

[JJSliderman]

Ironically if Jiren was a 2-C the stomp would be reversed.

 

[00potato]

Again, how is the difference infinite?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Again, how is the difference infinite?

Because Jiren is back scaled from baseline 2-C.

 

[AccelerAx]

Wait a minute knuckles actually has durability negation it states in his profile.

 

[00potato]

That makes it unquantifiable not infinite.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Wait a minute knuckles actually has Durability Negation it states in his profile.

He has through the wisps and transmutation via ring time

 

[AccelerAx]

He has through the wisps and transmutation via ring time

Actually it says Durability Negation (With Uppercut)

 

[DatOneWeeb]

It pierces defense, but it doesn't one-shot you, so Knuckles will still need to do a lot of damage.

CHADren FRA.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Jiren FRA

 

[KingTempest]

@ElixirBlue, @DatOneWeeb, @Gilad_Hyperstar, @InfiniteDay, @KingTempest, @Zamasu_Chan, if I considered @JJSliderman, then that's grace

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

The votes for Jiren aren't valid because Knuckles can't affect him as Jiren scales to unquantifyably above Baseline Low 2-C while Knuckles is baseline or slightly above it

 

[00potato]

Unquantifiable.
So, you can’t actually say whether Knuckles can hurt him or not?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

The votes for Jiren aren't valid because Knuckles can't affect him as Jiren scales to unquantifyably above Baseline Low 2-C while Knuckles is baseline or slightly above it

They are Valid because it’s not a stomp. Knuckles has hax to beat Jiren, he just doesn’t lead with it.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

Jiren FRA

 

[JJSliderman]

Oh yeah if I didn't say it earlier

Funny Owari Da man FRA

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

They are Valid because it’s not a stomp. Knuckles has hax to beat Jiren, he just doesn’t lead with it.

Ah ok then. Jiren FRA then

 

[Omegas03]

Uh, iffy on it not being a stomp. This is literally an 2-C with Low 2-C rating against a slightly above Baseline Low 2-C. Guess who'll win.