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dragon ball

  1. Vizer04

    Goku vs Vegeta... but it's their parents (GRACE)

    Both at High 5-A and Speed Equalized. Bardock: 8 (@Sir_Marvulous, @StekFence, @SlendVeny, @Gilad_Hyperstar, @Vizer04, @GlaceonGamez471, @Sir_Marvulous and @XSOULOFCINDERX) King Vegeta: Inconclusive:
  2. Vizer04

    Battle of the space warlords (0-0-0)

    Second key of Slug is used and Speed Unequalized. Lord Slug: Lord Chilled: Inconclusive:
  3. Kulf_Boba

    Dragon Ball Discussion Thread: Combat and Flight Speed

    Thread to discuss the subject of combat speed anti-feats in Dragon Ball.
  4. Spinoirr

    Most Dragon Ball character need Damage Boost

    Basically most dragon ball characters need Damage Boost because they all can charge their ki blasts This has been proven by Goku and piccolo vs Raditz, both of them charged up their ki attacks to harm Raditz who was stronger then them and it's been shown lots that a charged ki attack is...
  5. Knifeman29

    Dragon Ball Z upgrades

    According to Chris (one of the best powerscalers in the comnunity) canon super Goku's speed feats are greater than any of the flash's and he would beat him. this should scale him to multiversal+ to Low Complex AP and imeasurable speed. this also scales to vegeta 17 18 krillin roshi piccolo gohan...
  6. D4yN4m0N

    Some questions

    1.Well I was wondering if a being is just omnipotent which tier does it take? 2.Does transcending the concept of dimensions make the character have to tier? 3.Does anyone have a counter-argument to momoshiki's claim to be star level? 4.Why is Goku and Pikkon's speed feat no longer on Goku's...
  7. CiscoTheSoto

    Goku vs Auta Magetta

    Goku vs Auta Magetta Battle location: World of Void Tournament of Power stage SSJ Tournament of Destroyers Goku is used and he does not have access to any of his other transformations Neither have any prior knowledge of the other Goku: 7 (@Gilad_Hyperstar, @Coolboy6, @Mickey1940, @Dragon...
  8. Eseseso

    Pre-RoSaT SSJ Gotenks scaling issue

    So on Gotenk's profile, his pre-RoSaT SSJ is said to be above SSJ3 because of the Daizenshuu saying that he, quote, "surpassed the power of Vegeta and the others". However, as @Gilad_Hyperstar pointed out in another thread: "It doesn't include Goku because he was dead, This is why it was said...
  9. Eseseso

    SSJ3 multiplier legitimacy (Discontinued)

    OK, so I know that we can't use SSJ2's multiplier since no way would Gohan have been able to demolish Perfect Cell with just a 2x boost, something I 100% agree with. HOWEVER, from what the anime and manga of dbz have both shown, the 4x multiplier for SSJ3 seems far more sensible since it makes...
  10. BigSmoke4269

    eggman nega vs goku black

    lol both are low 2-C speed is equal eggman nega: goku black:
  11. D4yN4m0N

    Hakai question

    How to counter hakai? Does this technique have a weak point? How could a character from another work counter this technique?
  12. Vizer04

    Father and son bonding time (GRACE)

    Both at High 5-A and Speed Equalized. They battle takes place in Planet Vegeta. Vegeta III: Vegeta IV: 8 (@FluffyCreatureZ, @GodlyCharmander, @Dalesean027, @Vizer04, @GlaceonGamez471, @Qawsedf234, @FantaRin_The_First and @Arnoldstone18) Inconclusive:
  13. Gilad_Hyperstar

    Dragon Ball Z: Buu's immortality issue

    So, Buu has Immortality type 1 on his page as shown here: However, as you can see, Buu's type 1 Immortality has no scan to justify it, and nothing that proves that Buu can't age, even if he lived for so many years. Living for extremely long periods of time just falls into Longevity rather...
  14. Damage3245

    Revising Dragon Ball Flight Speed (Dragon Ball + DBZ + DBS Manga)

    I've had this in the back of my head for a while so I just want to get the thread out there and see what happens. Dragon Ball's Flight Speed Okay, so if you've seen the title you know what this is about so I'll just dive right in. Right now many Dragon Ball profiles don't make a distinction...
  15. CiscoTheSoto

    Son Goku vs Gon Freecss

    Son Goku vs Gon Freecss Battle Location: Master Roshi’s Island Starting Distance: 20 meters Both in-character Speed is not Equalized 21st Budokai Goku and Heavens Arena Gon are used. Oozaru is restricted Goku: 8 (@Kenboxx, @AceOfSpaces3709, @speedster352, @Kflare63, @Imaginym, @CiscoTheSoto...
  16. CiscoTheSoto

    Goku vs Guts

    Goku vs Guts Battle Location: Fire Mountain Starting Distance: 10 meters Both in-character Speed Equalized End of Golden Age during Griffith’s rescue Guts and 21st Budokai Goku were used. Goku has his Power Pole. Goku’s Oozaru form is restricted End of Golden Age Arc during Griffith’s Rescue...
  17. CiscoTheSoto

    Guts vs Goku

    Guts vs Goku Battle Location: Fire Mountain Starting Distance: 10 meters Both in-character Speed is Equalized End of Golden Age Arc Guts and 21st Budokai Goku are being used. Guts does not have access to his hand cannon or Dragonslayer, and Goku’s Oozaru transformation is restricted Guts...
  18. CiscoTheSoto

    Frost vs Caulifla

    Frost vs Caulifla Battle Location: Namek Tournament of Power keys are used Caulifla has access to all SSJ forms. Frost starts in his final form, has his poison needles and can use his 100% Full Power state he learned from Frieza Emperor of Universe 6: Female Super Saiyan: 7 (@CBslayeR...
  19. ObberGobb

    Shouldn't Beerus be 2-C

    He and Champa were going to destroy Universes 6 and 7 by fighting, which is a 2-C feat. The wiki acknowledges this because it is the basis for the scaling of Whis and other Angels. However, shouldn't this be applied to Beerus and Champa as well? The Tiering System page says "Due to the fact that...
  20. AceOfSpaces3709

    A Rather Small Bulma Addition

    Hello again, during my read of the Dragon Ball manga I discovered another potential addition that can be added to Bulma’s P&A as well as equipment. At the very beginning of the General Blue Saga, Bulma decides to join Goku in his search for the Dragon Ball, however, Goku points out that she...
  21. Vizer04

    Frieza Race Category

    Considering that we already have a category for Saiyans and Namekians, i thought it would be helpful to have a category for characters who are from the "Frieza Race". There's many of them actually (Chilled, King Cold, Cooler, Frieza, Frost, Kuriza, Cell, the Future Warrior) What do you think? :3
  22. Spinoirr

    ruby rose vs Betty

    Atlas Arc Ruby vs Post Hate Vial Betty speed is equal Betty is low 7-C and ruby is 7-C Rubys AP: 19.3837771444 Kilotons, higher with gravity dust Betty's AP: 4.70841997466 Kilotons Ruby Rose: Betty: icon:
  23. RandomGuy2345

    Chris Jericho (WWE) vs Mr. Satan (DBZ/DBS)

    Let's see how this goes. In one corner, we got the The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla, Y2J, Chris Jericho! In the other corner, we got the Earth's Protector, Mister Satan! Fight is for the World Heavyweight Championship (to make it more thematic ig). Speed is equalized. Battle takes place in...
  24. Nullflowerblush

    Why are the Pride Troopers' tiers so wonky?

    Cocotte, Kahseral, Kettol, and Zoiray are all Large Star level with the justification being that they battled Android 18... as well as "was capable of damaging Base Caulifla and helped other Pride Troopers against Super Saiyan Kale and Caulifla". Um, Caulifla and Kale are Universe level and were...
  25. Vizer04

    Janemba vs Cooler (0-0-0)

    Super Janemba and Meta-Cooler are used and Stats Equalized. Janemba: Cooler: Inconclusive:
  26. Vizer04

    Superman fights a king (0-0-0)

    Both at Low 5-C and Speed Equalized. Superman: King Vegeta: Inconclusive:
  27. Vizer04

    Appule vs Merus (0-0-0)

    Both at 5-C and Speed Equalized. God: Angel: Inconclusive:
  28. Vizer04

    Krillin vs Superman (0-0-0)

    Saiyan Saga Krillin is used and Speed Equalized. Krillin: Superman: Inconclusive:
  29. Vizer04

    Krillin vs Hulk (GRACE)

    Saiyan Saga Krillin is used and Speed Equalized. Krillin: 7 (@Coolboy6, @Popted2, @FantaRin_The_First, @Vizer04, @ZoroNotZolo, @Unknownnah and @Cimafranca133) The Hulk: Inconclusive:
  30. AceOfSpaces3709

    The second most powerful battle in all of Dragon Ball (0-0-0)

    Both are 5-C, Both are in-character, Starting distance is 10 m, Speed is unequal (Both Relativistic+), and Battle takes place at the World Martial Arts Tournament arena. Guldo's AP is at least 29.6 Exatons of TNT, but far higher with telekinesis (As it can restrain 5-B characters) Sorbet's...
  31. CardboardSlime

    Superman VS Goku...but it's X VS Kid instead.

    The closest thing to Superman VS Goku without actually being Superman VS Goku. Instead it's Superman X VS Kid Goku. Both are 9-A. Speed equalized. Battle takes place in some street. Pilaf Saga is used for Kid Goku and cannot use his Oozaru form. Superman X: Goku (Dragon Ball):
  32. Vietthai96

    Dragon Ball Heroes Time Power

    Well, another DBH CRT from me (again, look like this is my job apparently, i want my paycheck). Anyway, this thread is for three purposes, which not that big. I. Profile Publication Well as the new Ultra God Mission rolling out, we have new major character name Agios, Aeos or whatever she is...
  33. Nullflowerblush

    Getting rid of "Chou"

    Oh, my gosh, this "Chou" thing is soooo ugly. Introduction Son Goku (Chou) Vegeta (Chou) Goku Black (Chou) God Zamasu (Chou) Jiren (Chou) Majin Buu (Chou) Dai Kaioshin (Chou) Much like TV Anime-exclusive characters are denoted as being "Toei" pages to differentiate them from their mainline...
  34. SlendVeny

    Regarding Speed and Vegito.

    First, we bring out Shin, who scales to Cell Games SSJ Goku. Base Goku is above that, and thus SSJ Goku is >54,000c. Base Gotenks is faster than SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. Therefore, Gotenks is faster than SSJ Goku, thus >54,000c. SSJ Gotenks is 50x that, and therefore >2,700,000c. Post-Time Chamber...
  35. CiscoTheSoto

    Gohan vs Vegeta

    Gohan (DBZ) vs Vegeta (DBS) Fighting Location: World of the Kais Starting Distance: 10 meters DBS Anime Rage-Empowered SSJ2 Vegeta and Ultimate Gohan are used Gohan: 6 (@Mickey1940, @M_Animefan, @Nierre, @Artorimachi_Meteoraft, @jojo123, @Kachon123) Vegeta: 8 (@FluffyCreatureZ, @CiscoTheSoto...
  36. Rabbit2002

    Rematch Alien x vs Moro (DBS manga)

    Both 3A now, so I made this rematch Rules as this old match (expect low-2C since it doesn't exist anymore) Goat: Black guy:
  37. Vizer04

    New key for Goten and Trunks

    Goten and Trunks' profiles need another key for their Post-HBTC versions. Why is this necessary? Because Gotenks' base became stronger than his previous SSJ form. The power of a fusion character is directly dependant on the power of the parts of the fusion, so Goten and Trunks should have a...
  38. Vizer04

    Goten and Trunks fight an old enemy (0-6-0) (ONE MORE FOR GRACE)

    The kids are allowed to fuse into Gotenks but they start the fight separated. Cell has previous knowledge about the fusion technique. Goten and Trunks: Mr. Perfect Cell: 6 (@CBslayeR, @StekFence, @Gilad_Hyperstar, @Propellus, @GlaceonGamez471 and @Mariogoods) Inconclusive:
  39. Gilad_Hyperstar

    Dragon Ball Super Minor Class Y LS Revision for the Angels

    Basically, this CRT is just to give a quantifyable value to the feat that the Angels scale to, which is Vados carrying the Super Dragon Balls The feat is calculated here: This of course only scales to their lifting strength via TK
  40. Vizer04

    Dragon Ball Lifting Strength upgrade

    Dragon Ball characters usually don't have many LS feats but that doesn't mean they're physically weak. Ki blasts can destroy/vaporize objects in contact but they can also exert pressure and move objects with that pressure: And the more energy they have, the stronger the force they can exert...
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