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TheGreatJedi13

TheGreatJedi13

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  • Ss3micah
    Jedi
    I hear your an expert when it comes to Transduality
    Can I get your opinion on smth?
    More so I want you to review a brief conversation I had regarding it and tell me your thoughts HERE
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    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Wow, DarkGrath Already answered enough afaik. But I think I can add some thoughts or input

    To summarize DarkGrath is correct. Some things don't need to be a duality to be under a duality. Like the explanation of how Fire is still bound under the duality of existence and nonexistence. so in that sense, the person wouldn't get resistance from it technically and it wouldn't really be correct to list it as unconventional resistance either but the character would be unaffected by fire which is bound by a duality it transcends

    as for the second question.
    Yes, it would vary depending on whether said plot exists as transcendental to reality or not. If it's not transcendental in a way that a plot exists for example in a regular universe but there is no concrete proof it is above time itself (One example here is This Profile for example). In the case of this character is unknown whether his plot manipulation extends to the entire timeline. if we go with the assumption that he isn't capable of affecting the timeline (Thus making his plot manip only 3D [funny]) a transdual 2 character will still be affected by Plot manipulation if the Plot is not treated as a duality and is also unbound by any other dualities the transdual 2 character is above to.

    But to continue the case of the Old man. We know he can write the plot and the story and their adventure meaning that the plot itself is above whatever is being created by his plot.
    checking case by case

    1. Light and Darkness - Clearly below plot unless the verse makes it so it is not
    2. Creation and Destruction - the plot makes it so they all go into an infinite loop so anything created or destroyed in that level is also rendered or reverted (I believe this alone is enough superiority)
    3. Existence and Nothingness - This one is a bit harder but thanks to NEP Type 1 and there also being a thing called narrative nonexistence. if this has no feat of encompassing the existence and nonexistence of the plot I believe it shouldn't be assumed that it is above to plot at best it could be equal so that would make it so the Plot will still work.
    • (In the case of the Old Man he actually wrote the entire stories of Fantasia and the human world which also has an entity called The Nothing and Childlike Empress has void manipulation through that so without a doubt his plot hax will work)

    This I believe would be the course of it without it being NLF. and this is assuming the plot is above the entire 3D world without having the feat of being a higher level of reality or affecting the timeline. But if the plot manipulation of a character is vague such as in the case of toon force or 4th wall kind of plot manipulation it would vary depending on said feat. After all Plot Manipulation can vary as well in level and capability it can do
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Well as for law manipulation
    It does function similarly to Concept but more of a specific law that cannot be disobeyed.
    that would be a case-by-case but to be safe if Law is not a duality or bound to any duality we have reason to believe that it can affect the transdual character.

    If we for example include existence and nonexistence as duality it would be different because
    We can also say that Law manipulation has no feat of affecting or being above the concept/idea of existence and nonexistence the same way we can't assume we can interact with someone who has NEP Type 1/2 without feats. so in this case I would argue it wouldn't work but it wouldn't really grant resistance or anything.
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Thank you for the responses
    Really appreciate it
    RandomGuy2345
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    Johnny Test vs Akame (cause me bored)

    The WWE purge CRT is taking its sweet ass time to conclude, so I feel like going back to my old roots by making a random JT match. I thought this one would be pretty cool to do ig, mainly because these two are named after the show they're in. Johnny Test (Johnny Test) vs Akame (Akame Ga KIll!)...
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    Apparently you're one of the listed supporters of AGK. Would you mind giving your input here?
    TiltedFN
    Hello, i'm from the low 1-C zeno thread, i was wondering why you think the timeline would actually qualify for 5-D, can i have your thoughts? Because i feel like the timeline standards for DB are wrong.
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    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    That's not how it works they arent parallel they are branching. Parallel timelines are independent branching timeline takes from the same root. Destroying the timeline across past present and future would include the past where all other branching timeline takes root as well. We have a standard with branching timeline if you are not aware and a branch does not easily qualify as independent timeline by simply branching.
    TiltedFN
    TiltedFN
    DB follows many worlds interpretation, so there is countless possible different outcomes for the timelines. Alternate timelines already exist, which is accepted, they don't even have to be branched from the main one or by time travel, so they are independent, and destroying a timeline like zeno did would still be destroying the snapshots of all those 4d structures, which would be 5d.
    TheGodOfICE777
    TheGodOfICE777
    “That's not how it works they arent parallel they are branching. Parallel timelines are independent branching timeline takes from the same root. Destroying the timeline across past present and future would include the past where all other branching timeline takes root as well. We have a standard with branching timeline if you are not aware and a branch does not easily qualify as independent timeline by simply branching.”

    This is wrong in DB it’s been established many times doing something in a past timeline doesn’t do anything to the future timeline because it’s already happened when a time machine goes into the past it Splits from that moment and becomes an independent timeline affecting one timeline does nothing to another
    DigDig09
    Seen everyone say it your birthday soo why not right Happy Birthday GreatJedi.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Thank you very much. I didnt really expect to get a greeting in this website lol
    EldemadeDityjon
    Sorry for distributing but need your input if you don't mind

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    First LN profile Upgrade for MGK

    If anyone don't understand why order is CM type 1. @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless will clarify further. Order is Concept, Laws and Fate/Providence of the World. There are many order in the World like time , Creation and destruction. Order is unbound by the concept it governs. For example. Jerga is...
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    EldemadeDityjon
    Hey sorry for bothering. I had a doubt regarding higher dimensional existence. How does the wiki treats it?

    I have a character who is born due to some mixture components of higher dimensional space but story wise the character shown to exists alongside other 3D characters. How do vs wiki treat that character?
    TartaChocholate
    Actually managed to get proper translations for the Tactics stuff. Didn't really expect one of the translators to be free, but Maruishimaryishi was an absolute MVP.
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    TartaChocholate
    TartaChocholate
    Yeah, save for a few details, the one I had was correct. Marui's translation cleared up some ambiguities (for example, "Imaginary Space" was more akin to "void"). I'm gonna add them to the blog later on to compile everything. Though I have to take screenshots from the Japanese version of the game to prove I didn't make them up (ugh, this never ends), while I could use the japanese wiki-esque site where I extracted the text from, especially as I verified the contents there are transcripts from the game rather than summaries or analysis made by the webmaster (the Mystic description screenshot lines up exactly), I think that could be hard to trust for someone reading the profiles later on.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    yeah. a reference can be added either way or a note explaining jptext and entext.

    I'll be willing to assist with the CRT to argue some things in case they get contentions.
    TartaChocholate
    TartaChocholate
    Thanks, dude, really appreciate it.

    Gonna add the stuff we talked about and the translations for now. The CRT is still quite a bit away but things are finally taking shape. I'll let you know so stuff can be corrected beforehand.
    TartaChocholate
    Heyo, remember when I asked about the Mystics and Samurais of FFT: War of the Lions? I actually found the descriptions of the Lucavi and they really go out of their way to hammer how powerful they are. But interestingly, there are some pretty neat haxes there as well.
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    TartaChocholate
    TartaChocholate
    I vaguely recall that I once tried to learn the Zodiark Summon in the Elidibus battle with a Summoner under the atheist status and then, this random nobody in Ramza's army just noped the special attack of the almighty eldricth being even the gods feared just by being the most skeptical person on the planet. He still failed to learn the Summon and Elidibus killed him by slapping him with a physical attack on the next turn.

    I'll see if I can try it against the final bosses Hashmal and Ultima.

    There's one last thing, the original idea I was toying with but based on this on Summoners and the following text, do you think the Lucavi qualify for Higher-Dimensional Existence? In addition to all the other stuff we've found so far?

    There are worlds within our world of Ivalice that we cannot touch or know as we know our own bed, home, or town.

    The Netherworld, the Empyreal Plain, the World of Illusion... these are together known as otherworlds, unseen by eye; untouched by hand.The order of creatures known as scions hails from these otherworlds.

    They are found in many places, in many lands, and they count among their number emissaries of the gods, protector spirits, and even greater doers of evil.

    Though the otherworlds are not normally accessible from Ivalice, if certain requirements are met, it is possible to give otherworldly power a physical manifestation in our world.

    This is most commonly seen in the pact made by the summoners who calls down an Esper to fight for them. From the legend of a great mage in the far eastern realms who sundered a magickal seal, thus receiving a scion as a servant, it would seem that they, too, operate by these same principles.

    In Jylland, it has been discovered that that summoning of scions is possible with the use of a particular magickal device. However, it is certain that the power manifested through this means is only an echo of the scion's true power.

    To evoke the true power of a scion, it would be necessary to harmonize oneself to the scion's being, fusing not only one's purpose with the scion, but one's own body and mind.

    Also... thanks a lot for all the help, dude and putting up with all my pestering. Honestly I would have never put my finger on any of this by myself.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Im not entirely sure about higher dimensional existence. What was said is that they are unseen or untouched. It does make a good supporting evidence but alone it doesn't really stand to support HDE.

    As for the atheist affliction
    Normally we could say they should null ultima and zodiark but the problem would be is that. Both have statent of transcending human reason and truth so their belief would be irrelevant to them. So that could just be gameplay mechanics since contradicted by lore. But as for the rest they might as well believe them from not harming them with magic.
    TartaChocholate
    TartaChocholate
    Yeah, I'd consider it an outlier too. The lore builds up the Lucavi too much for a regular person to just ignore their power. Though I still want to check when I have a minute. There are abilities that are explicitly divine in nature that bypass Faith, like the Holy Knight's Holy Sword (in gameplay terms, because it's not a magical attack, but the lore is there) or Cloud's Limit which actually is a magical attack.

    What I meant for HDE was more a sum of things, the description of Summoners in Tactics mentions Espers are called from the highest realms of the Spirit World, the lore of A2 mentions Summoning this way only allows Espers to use an "echo" of their true power and this is how the Lucavi are Summoned in FFXII were they are given still busted descriptions, and the A2 stuff does mention that a Lucavi can fully manifest itself by fusing with a host both in body and mind, which is how the Lucavi popped up in Tactics (by using the Auracites with different people) which is accompanied by all the descriptions of trascending the earthly and reason and such. In fact, the Lucavi's objective in Tactics was to revive Ultima precisely to freely travel to the mortal realm without needing hosts anymore.

    Then again, you may be right and it's just a case of being stronger in Tactics
    ImmortalDread
    What is your banner name? I rly like it :3
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Banner Names?
    Well from the Left is
    Fediel
    Wilnas
    Lu Woh
    Wamdus
    Galleon
    Ewiyar (The Cat)

    they are from Granblue fantasy who are the Six Dragons that keeps the sky's shape
    ImmortalDread
    ImmortalDread
    Ay ty :3
    Ss3micah
    Can I ask for some input please?
    Im making a Blog for Conceptual Manipulation addition blog
    I wanted you to take a look at it and get your thoughts and comments

    I created an explanation blog and wanted your opinion to see if its valid

    You mind taking a look at it and give me your honest evaluations please?
    If you have the time for it that is
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    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    And yet for some reason you post three matches against the Captain before you do lolol :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    Amyways I'll go ahead and post it....
    You can review it when the time becomes available
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    I like waking up looking forward to something lol :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Understandable....
    (But D, Chinamen and another Hax character? Your Crazy Lol :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:)
    Deceived3596
    Yo Jedi i have a question regarding Captain.

    Is his full Low 1-C Key currently useable at this current moment?

    Need to know given a match up i have in mind.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    well he is lacking some abilities atm which is crucial to how he is low 1-C but I'm working on a CRT for him alone instead of including him with other characters in the verse to speed it up

    its pretty blatant feats and abilities so it should be fast
    Ss3micah
    Heya Jedi
    Im gonna please request add all of these new powers and abilies to Captain before continuing the debate

    Its kinda unfair for me to debate against powers not fully verified an against the rules to use stuff not on the profile even if it does make sense

    Just see the stands incorpreality incident
    Anyways I hope you please understand and I will be ready to continue this debate when the upgrades are conclude
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    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Also his fate and causality reset thing you explained...
    Where is it suppose to be? Base, Equipment or Summons? Because his Equipment seems to be closest thing to that description

    Hence why I said his profile needed to adjust it a bit more properly
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Wait right before it was only resistance fate because he can choose his own fate. Guess i'll do some CRT first.im gonna hate updating that profile. Its equipment and abilities section is so bloated with words
    Ss3micah
    Ss3micah
    Well your gonna have to do the CTR because as of now he has No Fate Manipulation in his base Key, he lacks all the new stuff your prostrating he can do and his only fate hax relies on Summons and Equipment
    Kisaragi_Megumi
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    raiden genshin impact vs raiden metal gear rising revengeance

    6-C vs high 7-C speed is equal both are at their strongest raiden genshin impact has musou itachi from naruto raiden metal gear rising revengeance has murasama and also his outfit from mexico because its funny raiden genshin impact: raiden metal gear rising revengeance: 8 me:
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    A meme turn into a freaking real match lmfao
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Updating his profile will take months because its a big profile after all 3years of content will be added. I made the match because even if his new abilities are not to be added the fight ultimately boils down to fate hax vs plot hax.
    Nep and npi wont do much since it is irrelevant to the match.
    Bahamut profile which would be his other winning summon is still decently up to date with physiology added already.

    Fate hax has always been his thing.it just that it only gotten stronger
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    Wait, why you said this here?
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