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You mean this is what earth used to look like in FF. You never showed any scans of a universe. You showed various scenes around the planet Earth.Everyone….it’s time
I wanna make sure I do this right. So, as accurately as I can, I am going to emphasize and highlight how the feats in Fire Force meet all criteria needed for it to qualify for universal ratings. With feats that are backed up with statements. Ok? Let’s begin.
Universal Fire Force Feat #1:
Ok, this one should be very straightforward as it is the most blatant nor should there by any contention with the feat as it is purely shown and explained to us.
This is what the fire force universe used to look like. Before the cataclysm, the fire force universe looked entirely like ours. Our real life 3D selves. Until the cataclysm brought on by Adolla turned the universe into what we see. An anime/manga style away from its original real life style.
"ON THIS PLANET, there have been many "Cataclysms" over the years." Your very own scan debunks your premise. The cataclysms have been happening on/around Earth, not something that's been destroying and birthing entire universes. Also there being an outer space doesn't mean much, Naruto has an outer space, Bleach has an outer space, One Piece has an outer space, etc etc. You need to show scans of a 3D physical universe turning 2D to prove that the entire universe and not just Earth. However, I doubt such evidence exists when we are directly told that the cataclysms have been contextualized to happening on Earth.
Being the will of something does not grant you the properties of said something. You can embody the intentions of a thing, person, or concept but not have the inherent properties or in this case range of what you embody the intentions of. Simply being the will of the universe could just mean it's the will of the universe to destroy Earth. Many people irl and in fiction claim to be the will of God, and yet they do not possess all the properties of God. That scan doesn't support universal range, all it does is tell us that the universe's will is to do whatever Adolla is doing in story.
It's not baseless, you haven't provided a single scan stating that they're doing anything to the universe. In fact the only scan of substance you sent states that these cataclysms are restricted to Earth. I'm not gonna repeat myself by re-addressing the same scans you've already sent a few paragraphs ago.
So this feat is not as simple as you're making it out to be. We see that many of these cartoon stars are roughly a moon's distance from Earth. There are no irl stars that close to Earth (the closest non sun stars to Earth are many, many, many lightyears away). So those cartoon stars would have been created and put there, since there were no stars there to begin with. What is happening is, the thoughts of humanity (of cartoon stars) is being plastered on the near sky/space around Earth.
So this first scan has been infamously misused and misinterpreted to claim the cataclysm will destroy the universe. That is not what is being talked about at all. He's talking about how the fundamental nature of reality is to inevitable death and destruction of all things. As mankind marches towards its own destruction (war, self-destruction, conflict, etc), the planet does as well (the cataclysm), and as does the universe (the inevitable death of the universe Big Crunch, Big Rip, etc etc etc). This scan does not claim or prove that the cataclysm is destroying the universe, all he is saying is that one day the universe will end, which is a factual statement. The second scan is just talking about the cartoon stars in the sky that I already addressed in the prior section, but let's focus on the physics of the world have changed.
That statement is awful for quantifying shit and I'll explain why. The reason we can quantify any feats (of the scale pertinent to our discussion here) is because we assume that the physics in fiction function similarly enough to our irl physics that we can apply it to the work of fiction itself. But here we are directly told that is no longer the case, physics has changed. Therefore, you cannot assert any kind of quantification for this feat at all. For example, in our irl physics a star have GBEs on the orders of like 10^41 joules, thanks to the irl physics, but if the physics change then that is no longer provably the case. The new physics changing means those feats are unquantifiable because we don't know the physics to quantify it.
Already addressed all of these scans so I won't bother repeating myself.
Considering you've provided 0 evidence of a universe being merged, I disagree. I'm not going to address the statistics stuff, because I don't think you've provided a single piece of evidence for a universal feat occuring at all.
@Damage3245 you were waiting for this
