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Is everyone fine With me to pinging these requested users?
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THE END OF ALL FIRE FORCE TIER 2 THREADS!!!
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Brother I am already here, but KingPin is gone, DontTalkDT and Ultima have said not to bother them with these threads as they're busier with much more important stuff, and Planck has already given his say here, Glass doesn't seem interested in Fire Force so that's that I guess.
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PrinceofPein
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can i see where, it was also not noted on the blog itself, or rather there is no comment from a content mod
the fact that you do not see anything that says this is not 2-C means I don't really have to reply you any more since well it will just go around in circles, but let me point you out to something that disproves it totally
it means any part of a universe that can be reached from another will be considered to be of the same space-time continuums
Don't tell me you did not see that, quoting the rest of the part that addresses this will be too much of a work, so lets wait for the mods
before a blog can be added to a verse page you need a CRT, I really do not see any here.
that said, it is not a vote, but DT said FF do not qualify actually, but since it was outside the thread it does not matter
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Can you show me a screenshot?
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Post in thread 'All-purpose request thread (New forum)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/all-purpose-request-thread-new-forum.107534/post-5475192
Post in thread 'All-purpose request thread (New forum)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/all-purpose-request-thread-new-forum.107534/post-5475202
PrinceofPein
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that is not necessary, the blog is accurate as far as I am concerned and can be posted and does not even need to be changed if this thread goes through
My message
His reply
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Doesn't seem conclusive enough to me at a first glance, a lot of "IDK"s thrown around.
At this point I believe we should actually get him to see both the upgrade and downgrade threads, as well as a the Cosmology Blog and give a concrete answer here if we really are to take his word at face value. That or we can always make the cosmology blog thread.
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a recommendation
maitreya is kinda busy with soul eater stuff atm (we are planning a complete fix of it)
can we either:
a) close this thread and reopen it in the future
b) hold off for a bit to give him time
maitreya is kinda busy with soul eater stuff atm (we are planning a complete fix of it)
can we either:
a) close this thread and reopen it in the future
b) hold off for a bit to give him time
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Literally what I said yesterday, you can't use that as he doesn't have additional context and was asked on the spot in a entirely seperate thread
I'm fine with this
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yeah which is why I said it was irrelevant here, as I am sure he did not go through 4 pages.
Well the cosmology blog made is accurate and is okay to pass, this does not affect it neither does what I am proposing does.
That said Tag DT, or I can message him in private but either way, he will not reply till weekend
I am in no hurry, alsoI did not make any new argument that needs to be reolied to, only quoted the tiering system, so unless he wants to respond to that I dont know what else
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Alright Pain….or Pein as you go by now. (Goddamn you got clapped bro.)
You’ve, you’ve pushed me over the edge. With these godforsaken threads.
I’ve now abandoned all tier 2 arguments and just going straight for tier 1
Prepare yourself:
No but for real I actually do have a question pertaining to tier 1. Because I heard R>f can be used as a qualifying factor in order to prove higher dimensionality. So if that was the case then I was wondering if turning something from reality into fiction would classify as like….low 1-C potency or something?
Like you get my train of thought? Because if so then I could totally reasonable argue that of Adolla being labeled as totally transcendence from the real world and as a higher dimension and encompassing that very concept plus the concept mathematics yada yada right. It’s just a matter of like if R>f can be used as a qualifying factor for higher dimensionality if the same kinda logic can be applied from turning reality into fiction.
Like you get my train of thought? Because if so then I could totally reasonable argue that of Adolla being labeled as totally transcendence from the real world and as a higher dimension and encompassing that very concept plus the concept mathematics yada yada right. It’s just a matter of like if R>f can be used as a qualifying factor for higher dimensionality if the same kinda logic can be applied from turning reality into fiction.
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I am in agreement with this.
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I was anctually about to send you my ability addition proposal blog and start a separate CRT for god of highschool too.
It’s literally….literally every time the minute I try to work on something this particular thread shows up in my notifications
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i wanted it to be just pein, but somehow fandom messed me up, and now all wiki should have the same name as fandom
ambition is the enemy of successI’ve now abandoned all tier 2 arguments and just going straight for tier 1
depends on how it is done, but it can as well be dimensional manipulation.
Well I agreed to be neutral, so I will respond like I dont know anything about FF.
No matter what you do, If you can prove the difference is qualitative, then yes that is tier 1
I will be banned so banned for that
you do not really have to reply, or you can read the post i quoted above, and then say why it does not pertain to FFI was anctually about to send you my ability addition proposal blog and start a separate CRT for god of highschool too.
It’s literally….literally every time the minute I try to work on something this particular thread shows up in my notifications
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RatioI was anctually about to send you my ability addition proposal blog and start a separate CRT for god of highschool too.
It’s literally….literally every time the minute I try to work on something this particular thread shows up in my notifications
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Although a minor one lets not insult others here pls
or direct it at me I got memes on hand for days and will be completely unserious
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That wasn't an insult, it was a small jokeAlthough a minor one lets not insult others here pls
I don't believe Pain even took it as an insult tbh.
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deceived just misses the days of warring over bleach like this
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Difference there was bleach needed to have Wars since everything was a issue to get accepted, it'd be a 7 page thread about giving ichigo superhuman characteristics or some shit
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I was bred and born from the fires of Bleach CRT's.
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But back on topic;
I'll just give an extremely simplified version of my opinions after reading the new rules for Space-Time Continuum's as i don't currently care enough to go into extreme depth about my positions.
I'm heavily sure that 2-C will be removed, and honestly it "should" be removed in my current opinion, even Low 2-C might be an issue since i don't believe you can concretely, or have implications of the destruction/fusing of Fire Force's entire space-time continuum with Adolla.
3-A should still be applicable to stats imo, I've already laid out my argument in the previous Fire Force thread, so if you wished to see it, it's there.
TLDR; Arc and Pain are screaming like schoolgirls that Tier 2 Fire Force/Soul Eater is probably being removed while Maitreya and the goon squad is shooting back huffs of copium, thinking about the good old days of Tier 2 Fire Force/Soul Eater like a bunch of boomers.
I'll just give an extremely simplified version of my opinions after reading the new rules for Space-Time Continuum's as i don't currently care enough to go into extreme depth about my positions.
I'm heavily sure that 2-C will be removed, and honestly it "should" be removed in my current opinion, even Low 2-C might be an issue since i don't believe you can concretely, or have implications of the destruction/fusing of Fire Force's entire space-time continuum with Adolla.
3-A should still be applicable to stats imo, I've already laid out my argument in the previous Fire Force thread, so if you wished to see it, it's there.
TLDR; Arc and Pain are screaming like schoolgirls that Tier 2 Fire Force/Soul Eater is probably being removed while Maitreya and the goon squad is shooting back huffs of copium, thinking about the good old days of Tier 2 Fire Force/Soul Eater like a bunch of boomers.
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Yeah I for sure feel that this is still solidly 3-A without a doubt but I also feel that regarding additional context it may very well have a decent chance to keep its rating since context is king and if it holds up then there's nothing to worry about
Though I shouldn't even say "nothing to worry about" since whatever the outcome is going to be the most accurate representation of the tier
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Oh look, VSBW overcomplicating things that don't need to be complicated, what's next, is Fire gonna need exact statements about heat/temperature to be considered fire, will it need to ******* show an ability to spread to be considered real ******* fire? What about ice? Are we gonna need to see the ice get frozen and have a statement of either 32 degrees Fahrenheit or 0 degrees Celcius?!
I'll wait for more context and that cosmology blog to be made before I make an opinion.
I'll wait for more context and that cosmology blog to be made before I make an opinion.
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i hope to gosh there isnt back and forth on 3-a, last crt and this one made it blatant the entire universe is affected
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Ruined your whole career
This is the exact opposite advice I received from Deceived.
Yeah….that’s the thing. The way this was done was kinda nutty and probably needs to be explained more in depth on my part. But I’ve been reading the sections for the pages on qualifying for these abilities on the wiki and I’m like making myself go crazy with how this can totally be argued both ways.
….this this a challenge
I’m asking this to avoid making another thread by the way. Or maybe I should just let the Fire Force goons run loose, y’all know they’d argue for this in a heartbeat
Idk, I might go
Yeah to be honest dude the series pages for Fire Force and Soul Eater need MASSIVE revisions right now because like the pages are just decrepit and the verses need ti be merged so I’m probably gonna get my ability addition blog sent out to Cyber today which will probably add a lot more contexts to the whole series in general tbh.
But I will say I think I can continue to make an argument for tier 2 based on the link you sent me.
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This is also my concern. Baseline 3-A has rock-solid backing
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I’m turning Fire Force into another bleach wars I swear to god
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We can worry about what tier it will be later. First, we let Maitreya and Cyber hash out their stuff for a Fire Force / Soul Eater overhaul thread, we can discuss all the nitty, gritty details there.
This thread has gone on far too long for that to be done here.
This thread has gone on far too long for that to be done here.
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Well I will stay neutral on that, so you do not have to worry about that
honestlyRuined your whole career
I will not take advice from him, he thinks bleach is peakfiction
well, as long as the style change is not used as evidence we are cool
Well, tier 1 fire force will be No NoI’m asking this to avoid making another thread by the way. Or maybe I should just let the Fire Force goons run loose, y’all know they’d argue for this in a heartbeat
there are few things that can be used as evidence
1. Adolla referred to as transcedent
2. Adolla said to contain Higher planes
These two you will be asked to proof these dimensions have some R>F difference
which there is none
3. the style change
well that is just what it is
I already said that, anyway I have like 6 pages of FF characters that have no pages done, so let me know
Let me wait for what you have to say
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THAT SAID, YOU FOLKS NEED TO LET THE MODS REPLY TO THIS NOW
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1. I don't, D.Gray-Man > Bleach.
2. I've never said Maitreya should argue for Tier 1 FF
My names being lied upon by goons.
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WRONG, WHAT WE DO NEED TO DO IS MAKE A DIFFERENT THREAD TO FIX AND OVERHAUL FIRE FORCE/SOUL EATER. This thread has overstayed its welcome for far too long.
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