THE END OF ALL FIRE FORCE TIER 2 THREADS!!!

[Quangotjokes]

….yeah…because the cataclysm is meant to end the world.

But bringing about the cataclysm in the first place only happened because of Adolla linking with the world prior.

Linked and merged aren't the same thing. That huge eyeball is Adolla. The cataclysm is the process of merging Adolla with Earth. Adolla never finished merging until the cataclysm was completed.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Linked and merged aren't the same thing. That huge eyeball is Adolla. The cataclysm is the process of merging Adolla with Earth. Adolla never finished merging until the cataclysm was completed.

Adolla was merging with everything not just earth.

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So that’s 4 mod disagreements now on top of a vast majority behind them. This CRT has been rejected.

 

[Maitreya12]

Linked and merged aren't the same thing. That huge eyeball is Adolla. The cataclysm is the process of merging Adolla with Earth. Adolla never finished merging until the cataclysm was completed.

Can you prove this statement to be true? As I explained before to complete the cataclysm Adolla already has to be merged with the world. Because turning the earth into the new sun can only be done via Adolla’s reality warping which is only done through Adolla’s merger.

The reality warped that happened prior to the stars and the moon happened as a result of Adolla already merging with the real world.

“Linked” and “merge” are being used synonymously here. I don’t understand the distinction you’re trying to draw between them.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Can you prove this statement to be true? As I explained before to complete the cataclysm Adolla already has to be merged with the world. Because turning the earth into the new sun can only be done via Adolla’s reality warping which is only done through Adolla’s merger.

The reality warped that happened prior to the stars and the moon happened as a result of Adolla already merging with the real world.

“Linked” and “merge” are being used synonymously here. I don’t understand the distinction you’re trying to draw between them.

I mean the story plays it out clearly. Shinra even states he can see what's happening on earth while in adolla. After the cataclysm completes he's physically on earth with sho and evangelist.

The two planes weren't merged.

 

[Maitreya12]

I mean the story plays it out clearly. Shinra even states he can see what's happening on earth while in adolla. After the cataclysm completes he's physically on earth with sho and evangelist.

The two planes weren't merged.

….what your saying directly proves the two planes were merged…. Everything you’ve said just now is evidence the two planes have merged together.

As what stated was what happened.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

What your saying directly proves the two planes were merged…. Everything you’ve said just now is evidence the two planes have merged togethe

I swear I’m really as confused as you are rn

 

[Quangotjokes]

….what your saying directly proves the two planes were merged…. Everything you’ve said just now is evidence the two planes have merged together.

As what stated was what happened.

Linked, not merged. Adolla was that eyeball connected to earth. If the two were merged, how did Shinra end up on earth after the cataclysm?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

If the two were merged, how did Shinra end up on earth after the cataclysm?

Because the two were… merged…

 

[Dalesean027]

Quan please read the prior thread dude everything you're saying has been addressed in much greater detail, you're literally not arguing anything new

 

[Maitreya12]

Linked, not merged. Adolla was that eyeball connected to earth. If the two were merged, how did Shinra end up on earth after the cataclysm?

……because the two world were merged…..

It was literally the same space and plane considering when Shinra threw the ball Haumea threw at him he created the atmosphere on earth with it from Adolla.

I swear I’m really as confused as you are rn

right?

 

[Dalesean027]

Anywho this seems rejected as of this final staff votes

 

[CloverDragon03]

Indeed. No one agrees, 2 are neutral, and 4 disagree, so it's safe to say that this has been rejected and should probably be closed unless there are any new arguments

 

[Cyberblader90]

oh yeah Ive said this before, but to Maitreya, When you have time make sure to make a cosmology blog. Hopefully will help avoid another one of these threads

 

[Maitreya12]

oh yeah Ive said this before, but to Maitreya, When you have time make sure to make a cosmology blog

I was literally about to start that right when this thread dropped and then I had to come here

Anyways I’ll probably be able to get to work on it tomorrow since I have some free time then.

 

[Cyberblader90]

excellent

 

[Cyberblader90]

Can someone contact a mod to close the thread

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

yeet

 

[Cyberblader90]

why is this open

 

[Starter_Pack]

@PrinceofPein has requested that this thread be reopened so that he may respond to the subject at hand.

 

[InfiniteDay]

@PrinceofPein has requested that this thread be reopened so that he may respond to the subject at hand.

This thread was already over and concluded, this is just blatantly trying to stonewall a refuted topic.

 

[KLOL506]

@Maitreya With the Tier 2 revisions complete, this is what the Spacetime Continuum page theoretically looks like with all its qualifying/disqualifying criteria.

 

[PrinceofPein]

@PrinceofPein has requested that this thread be reopened so that he may respond to the subject at hand.

Not really subject at hand but more of that we just updated the tiering system properly, I am not making any new argument or message. so if you can, please tag staffs(@LordGriffin1000, @Planck69, @Theglassman12 , @Maverick_Zero_X, @DarkDragonMedeus )that replied to this,
thank you

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

vsbattles.fandom.com

ImmortalDread/Space-time continuum

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Starter_Pack]

Not really subject at hand but more of that we just updated the tiering system properly, I am not making any new argument or message. so if you can, please tag staffs(@LordGriffin1000, @Planck69, @Theglassman12 , @Maverick_Zero_X, @DarkDragonMedeus )that replied to this,
thank you

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

vsbattles.fandom.com

ImmortalDread/Space-time continuum

vsbattles.fandom.com

Very well, I will do so.

@LordGriffin1000 @Planck69 @Theglassman12 @Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus

 

[Reiner04]

Not really subject at hand but more of that we just updated the tiering system properly, I am not making any new argument or message. so if you can, please tag staffs(@LordGriffin1000, @Planck69, @Theglassman12 , @Maverick_Zero_X, @DarkDragonMedeus )that replied to this,
thank you

Tiering System FAQ

A: Whether higher-dimensional entities qualify for such high tiers or not depends on several different factors, which may take root both in and out-of-verse. To explain this situation, we must first clarify what exactly being higher-dimensional entails. In a way, yes, though not how most would...

vsbattles.fandom.com

ImmortalDread/Space-time continuum

vsbattles.fandom.com

Can you quote which line/para from the draft is related to this downgrade?

 

[Deceived3596]

Let's see if third time's a charm or not.

 

[Maitreya12]

@Maitreya With the Tier 2 revisions complete, this is what the Spacetime Continuum page theoretically looks like with all its qualifying/disqualifying criteria.

Thank you I will be reviewing this fully.

Though if I do have any questions pertaining to tier 2 or higher who would be best to ask?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Let's see if third time's a charm or not.

second, cant even count properly.

Can you quote which line/para from the draft is related to this downgrade?

Well true, thanks
@LordGriffin1000 @Planck69 @Theglassman12 @Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus
From the FAQ

First, note that in our terms a universe, and hence also space-time continuums and timelines, always includes all of the three dimensional space that can be reached from it. That is to say, any place that can theoretically be reached via regular three-dimensional movement alone (e.g. via spaceflight) would be considered as part of the same universe, and hence timeline, regardless of whether the fiction considers it as such.

Per default universes are assumed to have separate three-dimensional spaces, but should a piece of fiction demonstrate the opposite, destruction of several timelines connected in such a way would only be Low 2-C (Universe level+).

Second, is the case of timelines that at certain points are connected. Contrary to the case where one can always travel from one universe to the other via three-dimensional movement, it is only possible in those at certain times. In fact, at certain points in time they might be the same universe. E.g. if a timeline branches into two, then the timelines were the same universe before the branch split happened. Other way around, if two timelines get merged into one, then they are the same universe only after they were fused.
In those cases, the destruction of any one timeline is only counted if it was not connected to any other timeline for an infinite amount of time. Otherwise, if there are several timelines none of which are separate for an infinite amount of time, they would all be counted as just one timeline for the purpose of Tiering their destruction or creation.

From the space-time page draft

• Time Travel:When considering "dimensions" or "universes", it is important to keep in mind that time travel should not be possible between them. Interfering with the time in one timeline should not have an effect on another timeline, as this would indicate a lack of separation.
  • However, there are exceptions to this rule. Some verses may have a concept of "meta-time" that allows for such oddities, though nevertheless it is important to note that these still constitute mere exceptions and not the general norm, and evidence is required to support the claim that a higher form of time is at play.

It is widely acknowledged that the existence of a dimensional wall serves as a delimiter between various dimensions. However, it is important to note that the presence of this barrier does not necessarily indicate a complete spatio-temporal separation between the dimensions in question, as defined by not occupying any points in time and space. Instead, the presence of this dividing wall simply serves to distinguish between the dimensions, even if they share a common time axis. Without the presence of this wall, the dimensions would be indistinguishable and would no longer be considered separate.

It should be noted that variations in the flow of time, such as faster or slower rates, do not necessarily indicate the existence of separate universes or space-time continuums.

Thank you I will be reviewing this fully.

Though if I do have any questions pertaining to tier 2 or higher who would be best to ask?

Ask me any questions and I will answer it neutrally. or you can ask @KingPin0422 @ImmortalDread @DontTalkDT @Reiner @KLOL506 himself, you can also ask @Theglassman12, @Everything12 @Planck69 but they were not really involved in the revisions but they are also knowledgeable on it generally. That is about all I know that are knowledgeable on this

 

[KLOL506]

I refuse to be involved with what happens to this verse's ratings, I am only here to keep the peace when I am not preoccupied with other tasks.

 

[Deceived3596]

second, cant even count properly.

Nah it's just the PTSD kicking in from the absolute mangling you received from the Fire Force squad (and me ), causing you to lose your memory of the previous events. Can't really blame you tbh.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Nah it's just the PTSD kicking in from the absolute mangling you received from the Fire Force squad (and me ), causing you to lose your memory of the previous events. Can't really blame you tbh.

IKR ********* behaviour

 

[Deceived3596]

Couldn't be me and that's on 55th street.

 

[Dalesean027]

@Maitreya With the Tier 2 revisions complete, this is what the Spacetime Continuum page theoretically looks like with all its qualifying/disqualifying criteria.

Read through this page and I'm still not seeing what about this refutes this

Fire Force Cosmology blog

vsbattles.fandom.com

Soul Eater: Death and Kishin Asura AP Explanation Blog

vsbattles.fandom.com

Any of this from being considered still anywhere from 3-A to 2-C? (And yes I posted the soul eater blog because the cosmos stuff works as additional context imo since they're literally the same verse)

 

[Deceived3596]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...r:_Death_and_Kishin_Asura_AP_Explanation_Blog

 

[Dalesean027]

Too late with the GIF

I fixed it prior

 

[Deceived3596]

Too late with the GIF

I fixed it prior

Too bad that the quote itself still has the failed embed nerd.

 

[Dalesean027]

Too bad that the quote itself still has the failed embed nerd.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Read through this page and I'm still not seeing what about this refutes this

Fire Force Cosmology blog

vsbattles.fandom.com

you need to create a CRT to accept this blog, also this does not really affect anything I said above, It really does not, we will not change the system for a verse, rather a verse will go along with the laid down guidelines of the system

Soul Eater: Death and Kishin Asura AP Explanation Blog

vsbattles.fandom.com

irrelevant to what I posted above

Any of this from being considered still anywhere from 3-A to 2-C? (And yes I posted the soul eater blog because the cosmos stuff works as additional context imo since they're literally the same verse)

but if you will please kindly read what I posted above, but if you are not willing to read it, please let us wait for those who will.

 

[CloverDragon03]

My vote being in favor of 2-C Fire Force (and ergo, disagreeing with the OP) still stands after looking through this

 

[Cyberblader90]

you need to create a CRT to accept this blog, also this does not really affect anything I said above, It really does not, we will not change the system for a verse, rather a verse will go along with the laid down guidelines of the system

irrelevant to what I posted above

but if you will please kindly read what I posted above, but if you are not willing to read it, please let us wait for those who will.

pretty sure the blog was accepted in the crt for death and asura's buff

 

[Dalesean027]

you need to create a CRT to accept this blog, also this does not really affect anything I said above, It really does not, we will not change the system for a verse, rather a verse will go along with the laid down guidelines of the system

irrelevant to what I posted above

but if you will please kindly read what I posted above, but if you are not willing to read it, please let us wait for those who will.

Calm yourself mate I've already read what you said and the all of the stuff from links you've sent and I don't see it as detracting from this being anything from 3-A to 2-C as I've said since additional context is very much provided and I don't really care that you believe the soul eater blog is irrelevant to this as I believe it is so I'll continue to have it there for those who'd like to see more from this verse's stuff. You don't have to address it but other staff are free to do so along the fire force blog

And that blog is accepted its literally with the 2-C CRT of soul eater and that was developed from that so don't be disingenuous