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Can you take a look at this thread? Everything is already accepted and it's just scaling those accepted things.
Would you be willing to look at this iron kingdom's calc? I have found a dex based light speed feat.
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
I'm not sure I understand, can you elaborate?
Dragonstitch
Dragonstitch
Okay so there are 3 abilities that use a reaction action to either reduce the damage, and 2 abilities that can transfer that attack's damage.
edit: I did find a scan from one of the novels depicting the transfer damage ability.
Dragonstitch
Dragonstitch
and i forgot the rest. So Iron kingdoms: requiem the currant edition of their RPG is an OGL game using D&D 5e. (The verse started as a OGL of 3.5), i made a calc about an ability with sunburst that you look at last month. I was wondering if you thought it would be better to use one of the 3 abilities that are reaction to the damage of the attack. an example reinforcing the powerful field just listed as damage reduction in this edition has the warcaster using their magic to boost the durability of their forcefield to reduce the damage they take from an incoming attack.
Hey, I published Bloody Mary's profile awhile ago and I'm working on the White Lady.
Could you provide me the movelist for both? I can't find it anywhere.
Greetings Chariot, I Have Some Questions About Ger's Rtz. First of all, I Can't See Diavolo Erasing Spacetime.

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Space Is Still Here. Nothing Appears. There are very inadequate arguments, otherwise there is even an anti-feat in the anime. Can you explain this issue to me in detail, I request evidence (Visual and Similar), Thanks.
Chariot190
Chariot190
I asked if there was RTZ 4D. This debate continued because we disagreed that "everything" was destroyed. As far as I can see, nothing is clear about Diavolo's space-time erasure.
The fact it affects time itself is enough to make it 4D, the fact it can nullify any and every ability up to early part 8, also, makes it 4D.
Love Train, Infinite Rotation, Made In Heaven, etc? All negated by RTZ as per supplementary material. All of which has some degree of 4D potency mostly because gravity in jojo is wacky
As far as I can see, nothing is clear about Diavolo's space-time erasure.
I hope you realize you're talking about it just works the meme this also sounds like an you issue, it's pretty self-evident and even ties directly into how he uses it.
In short, I say this: Space-Time does not appear to be erased in the Diavolo Anime.
No offense but, who gives a **** about the anime? Like actually, the manga takes precedence. Handwaving the fact you're ignoring the blatantly obvious and explicit fact that everything ceases to be, something even the anime shows to be the case half a dozen times.
Naturally, it is not 4D because it could not achieve the success of 4D.
Except it does? He deletes a chunk of the time, everything that existed at those moments cease to exist, even described as having been obliterated.
Any amount of time at all is a collection of infinite snapshots of infinitesimal fractions of time, and couple that with the fact that ya know, everything in the world no longer exists, except Diavolo, something that directly affects how his ability is utilized as he can't kill people in time skip nor can he be harmed as neither exist till time resumes (A fact that comes up multiple times no less, and is even used both to and against him multiple times).

And yet here you are, saying that nah, deleting time itself along with everything that exists isn't 4D at all.
Are you confusing 4D with low 2-C? If that's the case you'd be correct, Time Skip isn't Low 2-C, but it is 4D, it's just 3-A on a 4D scale much like Bites the Dust blowing off an hour of time is 3-A, but also 4D which RTZ also scales above so yeah, that too.
(Naturally, there is no 4D in RTZ. There is not enough evidence about Diavolo.) The reason why RTZ is 4D is because Diavolo Overrides the 4D Capability. (On this Wiki)
My brother in christ, the very fact RTZ restored even a fraction of time itself on a universal scale, makes it 4D on this wiki.
The fact it also restored literally everything else alongside that is just a bonus. And that's not withstanding merely being able to negate something like Made in Heaven, or ****, even Time Stop, would make it 4D.
But... it doesn't look like Diavolo's space-time was erased in the scene.
What? You're using the anime giving Time-Skip a fancy background to just ignore everything we know about it? A background that isn't even in conveyed in the manga, hell not even the colored manga, which is conveyed as just a blank blue void.
There is Space in the background, but it does not appear in the anime where Diavolo deletes this Space. That's why Diavolo's ability is not 4D. Not Enough Evidence

No offense, but this is just you being somewhat ignorant and then clinging to a cool anime effect as a means to handwave a bunch of crucial facts into how the ability works? The ability straight up wouldn't function if what you're arguing is true. Like what, my dude, do you think everything crumbling away is fake? Do you think Diavolo not being able to touch anything or be touched because nothing exists is just a lie the manga and guides made up? Do you think it's localized to earth despite hard confirmation it's straight up all of time and thus doesn't have a range even though multiple Infinite ranges exist? Do you think every time he uses it t creates an ou-of-sync time discrepency between the universe and his apparently miniscule AOE? All because the anime made Diavolo's ability look cool? And ****, it has nothing to do with not enough evidence, we are explicitly old everything but him ceases to be and they only show it as such what, a half dozen times? which is bad in and of itself, Diavolo in the anime has a bunch of wacky minor tweaks

This is no different to how the anime gave Time Stop a cool flash effect, or coincidentally, gave RTZ a cool space-like effect to, ironically in that same exact video you linked, even though in no other jojo media, to this day, having anything even remotely resembling such a thing.

And the worst part is? The manga COULD show space in the background, it wouldn't actually change anything. Diavolo's ability creates images of things, whether that be people, objects, the environment, and so on, likened to holographic images of the past and future actions of what will occur within the deleted timeframe, whether that be Bruno throwing a punch, or something like a pillar. Are these things actually there or are these "images" actually the thing in question? Of course not, but Diavolo can still see the world around him through these images, which is what enables him to relocate himself precisely where he needs to be and adapt to what is happening, which is to say, the manga could show whole goddamn galaxies and it wouldn't mean a thing, his ability creates forecasts of things that don't actually exist.

I also searched the manga, it's not clear, I can't understand it, I don't understand how it's 4D, nothing is visible.

That sounds like a personal issue lad... Except actually, this isn't exactly complicated.
Diavolo deletes time>Everything crumbles away and vanishes>Only he exists now as stated verbatim>because only he exists he can't kill anyone in time skip nor can he be touched because nothing actually exists at that moment (which is why he has to wait till time resumes to land his attacks and why Aerosmith's attacks phased through him, as he can't exactly kill what isnt there nor can nothing touch him)>his ability explicitly affects the whole world and is classified as meaningless in range because of it, as it affects the whole of time and thus doesn't have a quantifiable range this scan is on the kira profile if you want it

What's not to get here? You're taking a literal background, predominately from the anime no less (Go and check ASB or any other depiction of time skip, you won't find such a thing), to discredit the mechanics behind how it functions and every piece of info we have regarding it, to say it isn't 4D? Something that would be true regardless of if space is involved simply based on how he's deleting a chunk of the timeline and everything in it. This is legit like some DBZ Hit dimension being filled with actual stars level of shit my dude....
We can talk about this on discord if you want.
If it was anything but King Crimson, Ger, or Star Platinum, sure, but you have no ******* idea how utterly repulsed I am by these *******, like twice a ******* week with these three. I don't want to discuss them let alone ******* argue about them, you can blame Lucid and Walt for that one.
you also overestimate how much i like arguing about jojo online, i only logged on today because DRW001 asked me to look at a CRT, like man i just wanna finish my funny mask crt
ZetsuEarly0
ZetsuEarly0
I understood very well what you said, but because of my surroundings, a few questions came to my mind, so I wrote them down. Thank you for writing, I am now completely sure about this.
Chariot190
Chariot190
It's fine It's just
**** do I hate King Crimson and GER, why can't it ever be like Purple Haze or some shit...

Read this bro, please
Honestly, probably. We're still discussing stuff like size and AP for the heavy tiers. Like finding a replacement for the leviathan calc ap results currently. Friend of mine promised me to get some results of battlecruiser ramming which is useable as the battlecruiser white star was able to survive it and stay functional.

We already have the old nydus worm ap calc approved from years ago and I'm still waiting to this day for someone to nice my other 2 8-B calc requests/blogs. Easy lower end scaling for infantry is 9-B via Hydralisk bite force statements. Currently the only useable and approved infantry calc is only the nydus worm calc as the rest were never approved and noticed as far as I'm aware. I plan to likely make many of the infantry to light/medium units as "At least 9-B, possibly/likely 8-B."
I definitely agree with replacing the leviathan calc considering the fact it's based on game mechanics.

I went through the thread but I'm still confused, what is the scaling for Nydus worms, vaporization of Marines, and phase disruptors? And by that I mean, what other things scale to their feats and why? I looked at the marine vaporization stuff though and I think it's flawed because I didn't see anything about Banelings actually vaporizing marines, just looked like they blew the marines up. The marines' bodies were disintegrated but that's just game mechanics (game can't keep track of bodies so it just disappears them, common non-canon game mechanic)
Not_Icarus
Not_Icarus
StarCraft doesn't focus on military realism because its story, characters and themes are the main focus so we get many cases like this.

It's much more lenient in magical elements for its militaries than something like Star Wars, Mass Effect and Halo.
TyphonEX
TyphonEX
OK cool, if a Baneling can vaporize siege tanks, bunkers, and stalkers, then please give sources for this instead of fallaciously arguing that they can vaporize marines just because one drop of their acid can destroy a marine.

The wiki only says that a Colossus can incinerate marines and turn them to ashes, which is still very impressive and would scale very high. What does this even scale to though?

Could you actually give sources for all this scaling? And the Nydus worms not having weak spots?

If it's so inconsistent, the tiers should be variable too shouldn't they? That is, if the profiles have ANY situations where they scale to a certain tier at all.
Not_Icarus
Not_Icarus
That's literally my goal though. I'm trying to make it variable by making stuff like "At least 9-B, possibly/likely 8-B" "At least 7-C, possibly/likely High 6-A" and etc.

Colossus incinerating marines are just the base of their powers and they are heavy tier so they should scale to thors and ultralisks. Something like 8-B Colossus are pretty wack as they're in the same categories as heavies like Reavers, Ultralisks and Thors.

How about you give me sources for Nydus Worm weakspots? They literally don't exist and the field manual even says they're not that durable despite the raw physical power they have to forcefully ram themselves and dig underground at large and rapid paces as marines still easily penetrate them. Stuff like the Frontline comics and novels like Shadow of the Xel'Naga have marines physically shoot and tear apart Dragoons. Marines do the same to Goliaths. Zerglings do the same to vehicles like Dragoons. Firebats can also kill Dragoons. Just 2 Dragoons did this much damage to all these enemies. already Examples like those pretty much are the reason for my "At least 9-B, possibly/likely 8-B" scaling for stuff like infantry to light/medium vehicle tiers.

Roaches which can easily vaporize the bottom half of a marine and eat matter molecule by molecule and Mutalisks who can destroy neosteel building floors and melt through marine armor have weaker acid than banelings that are so powerful that even a drop of its acid destroyed an entire room and sent a marine suit heavily damaged flying all the way to the next room. A single one can shake an entire hollow tall skyscraper and even destroy a dropship. Even Protoss mechanized units like Stalkers and Immortals aren't safe when they get direct hits. They're so notorious in the sector that the Terrans even made anti corrosive sprays to try and mitigate the damage they inflict from their explosive acid.

Huge Upgrade for Series, Need Admin to look at it, when you are in your spare time or less busy you can check it anytime, thanks.

Huge Upgrade for Series, Need Admin to look at it, when you are in your spare time or less busy you can check it anytime, thanks.
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Reiner04
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Waifu @Dereck03 report Reina in RVT for stalking you

As if she will, dream about it।
Dereck03
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Why not report both of you?
Reiner04
Reiner04
Me?
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Hey Elizio, can you take a look at this thread? Thanks in advance.
Hey can you take a look at this thread? Thanks in advance.
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Sorry for the long time I took to check this out, I had a very busy weekend.
Reiner04
Reiner04
NP, it's understandable. Also sorry for asking again but my this thread is lacking few staff inputs.. can you check it for once?
Reiner04
Reiner04
Thanks Venom 🙏
Hey king, actually draft has been changed and elaborated more after DT's and plancks suggestion. Can u give your reconfirm your stance on the thread. Sorry for the trouble.
Help, this is even shorter
May i have your input here?
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