Death Battle Season Seven Discussion Thread (1) (Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Jasonsith · Jan 4, 2020

You know the drill by now folks! We talk about everything DEATH BATTLE here!

Continued from here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here

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Fights since this thread has started:

Done in the past:

Ep 118: Deadpool (Marvel Comics) vs The Mask

Ep 119: All Might vs Might Guy (Season Six finale)

Coming:

Ep 120: Spider-Man (Miles Morales) vs Static (DC Comics) (Season Seven premiere)

Ep 121: Black Canary (Post-Crisis) vs Sindel

Ep 122: Leonardo (4Kids) vs Jason Lee Scott

Content included in this thread:

- Predictions on what fights we will be seeing

- Predictions on who will win when the season starts

- Discussions about Death Battle Cast (sometimes DBX and sometimes anything Screwattack or even Rooster Teeth)

- And much more!

And please... the illustration just shows how to make a spoiler tag - useful for discussing spoilers before a Death Battle episode gets launched on YouTube.

Eficiente · Jan 4, 2020

The new 1 episode every 2 weeks format puts a genuine smile on my face.

CaptainFinnigan · Jan 4, 2020

Ngl Miles should have this easily

Kingo_the_Sixth · Jan 4, 2020

Reposting, but yes, I think Static should take this. At the very least it'll get people to look at a character who doesn't get used in VS much.

Jasonsith · Jan 4, 2020

Can anyone list some really impressive feats by Miles Morales?

TartaChocholate · Jan 4, 2020

1 episode every two weeks means a season with twice the episodes or that the season will be over much earlier this year?

Madotsuki24 · Jan 4, 2020

How does Miles even win? Static should have much more durability and deadlier powers than Miles. Also, I doubt that they would buy that 1,000,000th reaction speed scaled feat from Spiderman for Miles if they didn't even do it for Carnage.

The_Axiom_of_Virgo · Jan 4, 2020

Well according to our site Miles likely wins however the scaling for DC/Marvel street tiers is all over the place here so honestly I dunno who'll win? (regardless if DB uses VSBWs scaling or their own).

That said I'll be rooting for both since I like both characters.

Kingo_the_Sixth · Jan 4, 2020

Worth noting, Miles is absolutely gonna get the full microsecond town level stuff. Ultra, the writer for this episode, said his stats will be higher than any other Marvel street leveller yet, and that he thinks he got what people wanted for Spider-Man stats in the episode itself. Hell, a blog by one of the researchers straight up placed Miles at lightspeed with spider sense,

Foxthefox1000 · Jan 4, 2020

So Miles is def gonna be faster than Static.

Only issue is AP and dura.

The_Axiom_of_Virgo · Jan 4, 2020

Ironically Static's animated profile here is pretty detailed, accurate with some decent feats meanwhile his comic ("source material") profile is... oof!.

I still find it funny how live action/cartoon media is accused of nerfing comic book characters yet sometimes the live action/cartoon heroes as well as villains actually do more impressive feats than the source material.

EDiT, e.g: Captain America (MCU) > Captain America (Marvel comics), shields not included.

Kingo_the_Sixth · Jan 4, 2020

Foxthefox1000 said:
So Miles is def gonna be faster than Static.
Only issue is AP and dura.

Nah, Static's still gonna be >= in speed. Miles is specifically noted as only being relativistic with spider sense, while another blog from the researchers placed Static at naturally relativistic from laser dodging.

Tipper17 · Jan 4, 2020

So speed they'll be near equal AP and Durability will be the key to decide who takes it

Maskofthedragon · Jan 4, 2020

I'm going with Static because he's more likely to have some jank that's slept on

Unoriginal_Memes · Jan 4, 2020

Reactions don't really have that much to do with the character's overall speed.

Foxthefox1000 · Jan 5, 2020

Pretty sure Peter has also dodged lasers, though. And also probably Miles as well. And being LS with the Spidey Sense is still better overall IMO.

And like I said before, that one feat from Static can easily be an outlier and is a cloud splitting feat which have been hilariously insane in the past and had many people question their validity and also how much they inflate certain verses. He needed amps to even come close to performing CB levels of damage but these feats are totally legit. But it's whatever.

Jasonsith · Jan 5, 2020

The Axiom of Virgo said:
Ironically Static's animated profile here is pretty detailed, accurate with some decent feats meanwhile his comic ("source material") profile is... oof!.

I still find it funny how live action/cartoon media is accused of nerfing comic book characters yet sometimes the live action/cartoon heroes as well as villains actually do more impressive feats than the source material.

EDiT, e.g: Captain America (MCU) > Captain America (Marvel comics), shields not included.

Captain America (Marvel Comics) used to be 8-A. Ask Ant why he has to be downgraded.

Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff · Jan 5, 2020

I seem to remember a certain spidey villain that has electric powers aswell...

Jasonsith · Jan 9, 2020

Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
I seem to remember a certain spidey villain that has electric powers aswell...

Well that can be a legit reason for both to fight...

And Dwight Schrute (The Office) VS Ron Swanson (Parks and Recreation) is the next Community Death Battle.

Oh we do not even have a character profile for them.

CaptainFinnigan · Jan 9, 2020

Who do y'all think Obi Wan is figthing, I remember seeing something on /co/ about it being against Kakashi but I'm not sure.

Madotsuki24 · Jan 9, 2020

If they are using the microsecond feat, then they have pretty much admitted that Carnage vs Lucy is wrong! xD

Kingo_the_Sixth · Jan 9, 2020

Nah, one of the researchers said that they thought Carnage was Mach 9000 for his fight but it didn't make it into the episode, and that Lucy won anyway.

Unoriginal_Memes · Jan 10, 2020

I mean, almost everyone in the VS debating community already disagrees with it.

Foxthefox1000 · Jan 10, 2020

That's almost true. Some agree with it. Not me, but others.

Psychomaster35 · Jan 10, 2020

So, why do people say that Static wins, but the stats of them here show that Miles is superior? Did we leave something vital out for Static, or are they going to use his DCAU feats?

Foxthefox1000 · Jan 10, 2020

They're using his DCAU feats where he reaches around town, maybe higher and is relativistic

Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff · Jan 10, 2020

Wasn't he temporarily amped for those feats?

Foxthefox1000 · Jan 10, 2020

Apparently not the locker throw and not against the person who split clouds which should be around town at least.

Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff · Jan 10, 2020

I mean i've seen people say he was, but i guess i see what DB looks up.

Phantom_Falcon · Jan 10, 2020

Madotsuki24 said:
If they are using the microsecond feat, then they have pretty much admitted that Carnage vs Lucy is wrong! xD

I mean not really? Lucy's vectors travel at mack 2k, and carnage is mach 6k. hes faster, but it isn't really blitz territory. plus, lucy redirected those mach 2k vectors away from kouta when they were like a few inches away, which would be high end MHS+-Low end sub-rela for reaction timing

also power gap is stupidly huge lmao.

Phantom_Falcon · Jan 10, 2020

Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
I seem to remember a certain spidey villain that has electric powers aswell...

static is a more competent and smarter electro. im sure miles wont have an easy time beating him

Xtas · Jan 10, 2020

Phantom Falcon said:
I mean not really? Lucy's vectors travel at mack 2k, and carnage is mach 6k. hes faster, but it isn't really blitz territory.

I hope you understand how large the difference is between mach 2k and mach 6k. The difference between mach 2k and mach 6k is the difference between mach 2k and you times 3.

Unoriginal_Memes · Jan 10, 2020

Remember, Mach 1500 vectors are only in her melting form, which is out of character for her to use (with her only doing it as a means of a last resort). And no, Death Battle's rule of every character being at their best does not apply to forms. Normally, she's only Supersonic, and easily gets speed blitzed by Carnage.

Phantom_Falcon · Jan 10, 2020

imo, the melting isnt really a form and more of a side effect of her exerting herself too much. i dont think the melting form increases her reaction time. and like i said, even if her vectors are slower, given how she was quick enough to redirect them from kouta when they were a few inches away from him, thats likely sub-relativistic in reaction timing. plus, her durability is still solid enough that blitzing wouldnt do a lot. She survived the large mountain/small island level explosion she caused, and while she wasnt at the epicenter, she still survived arguably more than what carnage can survive and dish out

and yes, i know the difference between mach 2k and 6k. its a solid speed edge, but again, its not blitz territory

Unoriginal_Memes · Jan 10, 2020

There is no solid speed difference we have as qualifications for a blitz. A 4.5 speed advantage could be blitz worthy, but people only assume it's 7.5 because that's the gap for a one-shot.

Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff · Jan 11, 2020

Jasonsith said:
The Axiom of Virgo said:

Ironically Static's animated profile here is pretty detailed, accurate with some decent feats meanwhile his comic ("source material") profile is... oof!.

I still find it funny how live action/cartoon media is accused of nerfing comic book characters yet sometimes the live action/cartoon heroes as well as villains actually do more impressive feats than the source material.

EDiT, e.g: Captain America (MCU) > Captain America (Marvel comics), shields not included.

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Captain America (Marvel Comics) used to be 8-A. Ask Ant why he has to be downgraded.

I mean, didn't they composite both characters?

Madotsuki24 · Jan 11, 2020

Phantom Falcon said:
Madotsuki24 said:

If they are using the microsecond feat, then they have pretty much admitted that Carnage vs Lucy is wrong! xD

Click to expand...

I mean not really? Lucy's vectors travel at mack 2k, and carnage is mach 6k. hes faster, but it isn't really blitz territory. plus, lucy redirected those mach 2k vectors away from kouta when they were like a few inches away, which would be high end MHS+-Low end sub-rela for reaction timing
also power gap is stupidly huge lmao.

When did you get that speed?!?

Madotsuki24 · Jan 11, 2020

Carnage has a microsecond feat, so he blitzes...

Speedyroj · Jan 11, 2020

Unoriginal Memes said:
And no, Death Battle's rule of every character being at their best does not apply to forms.

I'm curious what you're basing this claim on. Because the researchers have clarified ad nauseam that "Character X beats Character Y before they transform" isn't considered a valid win condition in DB unless the character has to jump through a lot of hoops to activate the transformation, such as Captain Marvel needing to absorb energy to become Binary (and they gave her Binary anyway in both her fights lol).

Also, "melting form" isn't a thing, but that's besides the point.

Phantom_Falcon · Jan 11, 2020

Madotsuki24 said:
Phantom Falcon said:

Madotsuki24 said:

If they are using the microsecond feat, then they have pretty much admitted that Carnage vs Lucy is wrong! xD

Click to expand...

I mean not really? Lucy's vectors travel at mack 2k, and carnage is mach 6k. hes faster, but it isn't really blitz territory. plus, lucy redirected those mach 2k vectors away from kouta when they were like a few inches away, which would be high end MHS+-Low end sub-rela for reaction timing
also power gap is stupidly huge lmao.

Click to expand...

When did you get that speed?!?

Oh, if you actually looked up Lucy's profile and go down to speed, you'll find it there

plus, ye, carnage has a microsecond feat, but it's 3x faster at best. He's still not in the blitzing territory. And again, Lucy redirecting those vectors away from Kouta is likely sub rela or at least high end MHS+ for reaction timing

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