Death Battle Season Seven Discussion Thread (2) (Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Jasonsith · Feb 13, 2020

You know the drill by now folks! We talk about everything DEATH BATTLE here!

Continued from here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here

Warp gate

Fights since this thread has started:

Done in the past:

Ep 120: Spider-Man (Miles Morales) vs Static (DC Comics) (Season Seven premiere)

Ep 121: Black Canary (Post-Crisis) vs Sindel

Coming:

Ep 122: Leonardo (4Kids) vs Jason Lee Scott

Ep 123: Genos vs War Machine (Marvel Comics)

Content included in this thread:

- Predictions on what fights we will be seeing

- Predictions on who will win when the season starts

- Discussions about Death Battle Cast (sometimes DBX and sometimes anything Screwattack or even Rooster Teeth)

- And much more!

And please... the illustration just shows how to make a spoiler tag - useful for discussing spoilers before a Death Battle episode gets launched on YouTube.

ElixirBlue · Feb 13, 2020

Thoughts about Static vs Miles?

I thought it was fairly even. Is Static stronger than Electro?

Jasonsith · Feb 13, 2020

ElixirBlue said:
Thoughts about Static vs Miles?

I thought it was fairly even. Is Static stronger than Electro?

Yes Static (Post-Crisis) is much stronger and much smarter than Electro (Marvel Comics) which is why (as Wiz said) Spider-Man (Miles Morales)'s experience against Electro has little use.

Speaking of which, how you view on the Community Death Battle of Zebra (Toriko (Universe)) vs Black Bolt (Marvel Comics)?

Psychomaster35 · Feb 13, 2020

I agree with Miles VS Static, yeah.

As for Zebra VS Black Bolt, Blackagar unfortunately stands no chance because of a blitz, and his voice may be stronger than Zebra's, but Zebra is simply more versitile.

Jasonsith · Feb 13, 2020

EJthe24th said:
I found this and it might help get rudimentary understanding of what's to come in next Death Battle.

Makes people wanna check on what Jason Lee Scott can actually do without the zords. And seems 9-A Leonardo is picked and composited but no crazy magic or mutations are allowed.

(But the Odachi sword... does that give him some variety of range control as well as some hax? Or just a better leverage on his... well... ninjutsu?)

Phantom_Falcon · Feb 13, 2020

it gives him better teleportation basically

TartaChocholate · Feb 13, 2020

Happy that it's gonna be Jason fighting himself instead of another mecha battle.

Jasonsith · Feb 13, 2020

TartaChocholate said:
Happy that it's gonna be Jason fighting himself instead of another mecha battle.

Also, very likely that this implies something

1. Red Ranger would not need his zord to kill base composite Leonardo.

2. Or, Red Ranger would be smacked down by Leonardo's Dragon form and other crazy hax and gadgets even with his zords.

At one point MMPR was scaled by Ben Singer to only a 1-2 tonne car tossing feat.

When Shredder can lift and toss a 10-tonne+ oil tanker truck.

Newendigo · Feb 13, 2020

Sindel Vs Canary was a disappointment, I hope that Jason Vs Leo gets more effort.

The_real_cal_howard · Feb 13, 2020

I know Leo also has a five finger death punch equivalent.

Genericstickman · Feb 13, 2020

I want to see more Final Fantasy characters in Death Battle, something like Chaos vs Giygas (yes I know it's a stomp but it's thematically appropriate since they both have similar backstories)

Sorvoe551 · Feb 13, 2020

I'd like to see Cecil Harvey in a DB, but he'd need an opponent who has two different forms like he does. Can't think of any right now.

TartaChocholate · Feb 13, 2020

Cecil would be pretty dope. Dunno, someone who changes between two forms or perhaps a character that can wield Light and Dark simultaneously as well.

Genericstickman · Feb 13, 2020

A Warrior of Light free for all might be interesting

Sorvoe551 · Feb 13, 2020

So the Dissidia crew duking it out? Pretty sure Lightning pokes them all and they turn to ash

Genericstickman · Feb 13, 2020

Actually I was more so thinking all main Warriors of Light from each game fighting meaning it'd mainly be classic protagonists

Jasonsith · Feb 14, 2020

TartaChocholate said:
Cecil Harvey would be pretty dope. Dunno, someone who changes between two forms or perhaps a character that can wield Light and Dark simultaneously as well.

Guts totally sounds like a candidate. (wink)

And is as fair as Weiss Schnee vs Mitsuru Kirijo.

Psychomaster35 · Feb 14, 2020

Sorvoe551 said:
I'd like to see Cecil Harvey in a DB, but he'd need an opponent who has two different forms like he does. Can't think of any right now.

Probably Riku?

Sorvoe551 · Feb 14, 2020

Riku always seems to go up against either Sasuke or Ichigo for the theme of "good guy using evil to do good"

Psychomaster35 · Feb 14, 2020

But so does Cecil, after realizing that the actions he was doing was wrong, but he had to obey them anyways, until he decided to fight against his own allies to stop them. Of course, that led him to becoming a Paladin later on, but he did still show that he was against them while still a dark knight. He can still shift forms anyways, in Dissidia, so the connection still fits.

Jasonsith · Feb 14, 2020

Psychomaster35 said:
But so does Cecil, after realizing that the actions he was doing was wrong, but he had to obey them anyways, until he decided to fight against his own allies to stop them. Of course, that led him to becoming a Paladin later on, but he did still show that he was against them while still a dark knight. He can still shift forms anyways, in Dissidia, so the connection still fits.

Poor Cecil tho. And another Disney win which is scolded hard.

Psychomaster35 · Feb 14, 2020

If youre not liking that FFIV fight idea, I would suggest maybe Darth Vader VS Golbez. At least the connections are much better.

Jasonsith · Feb 14, 2020

Reminding me of the ancient Zitz VS Leonardo, someone is about time to apply the approved upgrades.

Sorvoe551 · Feb 14, 2020

How about Terra Branford from FFVI? It would have to be someone who's just as fearful of their power as she was

Jasonsith · Feb 16, 2020

Oh I have done some estimations that may upgrade the lifting strength of the MMPR crew. Please have a look and pick an end, thanks. But one thing sure: Jason has strength.

And I actually think the Red Ranger also has speed - even in Screwattack's eyes. Since they think MMPR pilots Dino Megazord, which tags Dragonzord, which can travel past escape velocity, I think >Mach 33 would be what Screwattack puts Jason Lee Scott at. And as for Leonardo (2012), he tags Shredder (2012) who is just subsonic+ proven at Shredder vs Silver Samurai.

Genericstickman · Feb 16, 2020

I just realised Kefka vs Shockwave might actually be a fairly good thematic battle since both have similarities to each other

Jasonsith · Feb 16, 2020

Jasonsith said:
Oh I have done some estimations that may upgrade the lifting strength of the MMPR crew. Please have a look and pick an end, thanks. But one thing sure: Jason has strength.
And I actually think the Red Ranger also has speed - even in Screwattack's eyes. Since they think MMPR pilots Dino Megazord, which tags Dragonzord, which can travel past escape velocity, I think >Mach 33 would be what Screwattack puts Jason Lee Scott at. And as for Leonardo (2012), he tags Shredder (2012) who is just subsonic+ proven at Shredder vs Silver Samurai.

I just found something that pushed the Turtles' speed a lot.

TartaChocholate · Feb 16, 2020

That's a massive upgrade there, holy crap

Sorvoe551 · Feb 16, 2020

Black Canary vs Sindel QnA time:

Before we start, the reason Sindel's hair is like that is because it's ripped from a Felicia from Darkstalkers sprite. Anyway, onto the questions:

Why didn't Sindel just absorb Dinah's soul for an easy win? She does that in MK9 against Nightwolf and it doesn't work, but according to Ben, you usually have to physically beat your opponent down before you can do that, so it's not the perceived insta-win that is being implied (I can't confirm that, I don't know much about MK).

Why didn't Black Canary fight Black Bolt? We want to see Marvel finally defeat DC. (*cough* Spider-Man and Deadpool *cough*) Black Bolt is way too powerful when compared to her, Sindel fit closer to her. Ben put out the question of who would be a good Black Bolt match up.

You mention martial arts, but never ground fighting, which is how most characters win fights. Why? They assumed they meant grappling and submission holds, but Ben said they don't really specify martial arts unless it's part of the character's general profile. Also, comic book fights usually don't have much grappling like that, neither does MK.

Dinah's ear membranes don't protect the rest of her body, so shouldn't Sindel still be able to rip her to shreds with her voice? Maybe, but Dinah could do the same thing. (My input, Canary's body handles her own screams all the time, so Sindel shouldn't be able to do that)

Where did Boomstick get Sub-Zero's and Kabal's skulls from? Sub-Zero won his fight and Kabal hasn't appeared in one yet. According to Chad, Boomstick likes to play dress up with skulls, so those are just random dead people with decorations.

You said Sindel was stronger than Dinah and didn't give BC any defense against such power, so why didn't Sindel just rip her apart with her bare hands? Power gaps like that always win DBs, so doesn't that mean you're wrong? Power gaps like that don't always win (kinda), but Dinah had the speed and scream power to counteract Sindel's brute force. Also, Dinah could fight physically stronger opponents like Mammoth and Gigantica, so it wouldn't be impossible for her to tank a few hits.

Why didn't you include Dinah's Five Heavens Palm? She just got that in the comics and it's technically Dinah Drake, not Dinah Lance (Daughter BC apparently got removed from canon after New 52).

Why did you use the Mortal Kombat movie when it isn't canon? Because there's not a lot of Sindel scream feats in canon that aren't scientific bullshit.

Black Canary wins just as the Birds of Prey movie comes out. You obviously rigged it to promote the film. Doesn't that prove you're biased and wrong? No, nobody paid them and they would have to disclose the sponsorship. They planned it way in advance and made it so it would be released around the time of the movie. It's a view gaining tactic, nothing more.

Next time is Jason vs Leo. Won't that be just as bad since Jason has his Zord? Also, are you giving Leo his dragon transformation? No Zords, no Dragon stuff.

Jasonsith · Feb 16, 2020

I just found something that pushed the Turtles' speed a lot.

So, given how laser dodging in the Power Rangers has been dis-believed by Rooster Teeth, would they call laser dodging in TMNT a thing? Remember: Migue79 only suggests 1987 TMNT possibly relativistic+ if not outlier, and we are discussing if the other TMNT are also relativistic or still supersonic or even hypersonic.

Jasonsith · Feb 17, 2020

Jasonsith said:
ElixirBlue said:

Thoughts about Static vs Miles?

I thought it was fairly even. Is Static stronger than Electro?

Click to expand...

Yes Static (Post-Crisis) is much stronger and much smarter than Electro (Marvel Comics) which is why (as Wiz said) Spider-Man (Miles Morales)'s experience against Electro has little use.
Speaking of which, how you view on the Community Death Battle of Zebra (Toriko (Universe)) vs Black Bolt (Marvel Comics)?

The voting site

Phantom_Falcon · Feb 18, 2020

leonardo is definitely at least relativistic+. the laser feat isnt the only feat. in the 2012 cartoon, he dodged tentacles from Fungus Humungous and the tentacles moved in tandem with light.

there is another feat in the comics i would link, but im at school rn. point is, since they're going for a generalization of Leonardo, this feat should be included as well, and makes relativistic consistent

Sorvoe551 · Feb 19, 2020

So they posted the preview for Jason on YouTube. Only 4 days until the next fight

Jasonsith · Feb 19, 2020

Phantom Falcon said:
leonardo is definitely at least relativistic+. the laser feat isnt the only feat. in the 2012 cartoon, he dodged tentacles from Fungus Humungous and the tentacles moved in tandem with light.

there is another feat in the comics i would link, but im at school rn. point is, since they're going for a generalization of Leonardo, this feat should be included as well, and makes relativistic consistent

We all know relativistic+ TMNT and FTL Power Rangers will be a thing. But imagine how weird it is for Rooster Teeth crew to consider Jason Lee Scott > Mach 33 for tagging Dragonzord (when they are known here for FTL or even MFTL+) while considering Leonardo 0.59 c (when they are previously clocked at FTE or baseline subsonic to baseline subsonic+ for tagging The Shredder). I am talking about consistency.

The_real_cal_howard · Feb 19, 2020

Yeah. Consistency.

Looks at Mega Man who went from mountain level and lightning timing to large planet busting and FTL+ in between Death Battles

Sorvoe551 · Feb 20, 2020

We'll see what happens. Still should be fun

Tipper17 · Feb 20, 2020

Consistency is never DB strong suit and you know it

Jasonsith · Feb 20, 2020

Have I heard it wrong, Death Battle has expressed interest in doing Miss Frizzle vs Bill Nye... Does Bill have... any feats? We all know Miss Frizzle with the Magic School Bus can mow down a lot of verses. What does Bill Nye the Science Guy do? Would Rick Sanchez be a better option or does Rick stomp instead?

Sorvoe551 · Feb 20, 2020

Rick Sanchez murders her and the entire student body for fun

Phantom_Falcon · Feb 20, 2020

The real cal howard said:
Yeah. Consistency.

reminder that in MMvAB they didn't have a official research team

by the time of MMBR, they did

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