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Tokyo Revengers Upgrade Hypersonic+ Speed

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Okay then it should be fine Whiz_Almighty did you blog your calc?
 
Joshpiece said he wanted to ask CGM about a good Low Ball and High Ball for the distance the Draken covered.
I’d say make a calc group thread so we can get input from more cgm’s

The 1 meter distance might be good enough to blog and ask to get evaluated if we don’t wanna wait on another thread.

Both options are fine with me considering how many issues supersonic + solves
 
I’d say make a calc group thread so we can get input from more cgm’s

The 1 meter distance might be good enough to blog and ask to get evaluated if we don’t wanna wait on another thread.

Both options are fine with me considering how many issues supersonic + solves
I'm currently on the road coming from out of state and I won't be at my computer for several hours so if no one blogs it or starts the thread by then I will tomorrow
 


Someone changed it to MHS+, I don't know who it is, I changed it back to Hypersonic+
 
Disagree.

for calculations, here there really is a big error, because the next page provides a more detailed distance, here I try to do a recalculation of izana.

fzrUYNt.jpeg


So = 6.23 x 381/3.6= 659.34 M/S (Supersonic).

and I prefer this speed not to be scaled to mikey because this is a special condition + really serious state. and maybe the speed he used against mikey didn't use the same speed as speed to protect Kakucho
 
this is a special condition + really serious state.
Izana was in a really serious state prior to this when a Mikey was fighting him while nerfed and trying to save Izana but once Mikey gave up on him and got serious, serious Mikey fodderized a serious Izana (who was in his peak condition with no injuries mind you) and was able to evade literally all of his serious attacks with izana resorting to using that exact same gun to try and kill Mikey before Kakucho stopped him.

So this izana wasn't serious business can go entirely out the window fact of the matter is Mikey was completely above him in terms of speed when he stopped trying to save Izana and got serious while Izana was trying his absolute hardest to take down Mikey and while trying to kill him


Mikey definitely scales to this unless you can say that Izana got a speed boost which would be contradicted by draken having a better feat than this that Mikey would still scale to for being faster.


That said your calc will have to be approved and blogged just like the draken calc is in the process of
 
Anyways if tou actually bothered to read the thread instead of trying to push your own scaling you'd have seen this talked about numerous times


That said with your calc in question how about you make a calc blog and we discuss it later in another thread since this thread has already been accepted and should be closed

Notify me once you've blogged your calc and if hasn't been done already notify me of the draken calc blog when it's created. Send both to my dm and I can make a thread to the calc group members seeing which we can use taking the hypersonic calc, this calc, and the draken calc to discuss consistency and scaling
 
If there are two different accepted calculation blogs for a feat, it should preferably be discussed in our calc group forum which of them that is more reliable to use, yes.
 
Izana was in a really serious state prior to this when a Mikey was fighting him while nerfed and trying to save Izana but once Mikey gave up on him and got serious, serious Mikey fodderized a serious Izana (who was in his peak condition with no injuries mind you) and was able to evade literally all of his serious attacks with izana resorting to using that exact same gun to try and kill Mikey before Kakucho stopped him.

So this izana wasn't serious business can go entirely out the window fact of the matter is Mikey was completely above him in terms of speed when he stopped trying to save Izana and got serious while Izana was trying his absolute hardest to take down Mikey and while trying to kill him
Don't want to start a new argument but Mikey was serious the entire time Izana just got weaker.
 
Don't want to start a new argument but Mikey was serious the entire time Izana just got weaker.
... I'll send the scans if need be lol izana literally had no damage until Mikey got serious and stomped him at his peak
 
Disagree.

for calculations, here there really is a big error, because the next page provides a more detailed distance, here I try to do a recalculation of izana.

fzrUYNt.jpeg


So = 6.23 x 381/3.6= 659.34 M/S (Supersonic).

and I prefer this speed not to be scaled to mikey because this is a special condition + really serious state. and maybe the speed he used against mikey didn't use the same speed as speed to protect Kakucho
No. Don't use this Panel.

Kisaki was already very surprised, as well as Izana & Kakucho when the shot position, this panel was already messed up. Look at the starting point of Izana standing with Kisaki, they are not that far away, and Izana & Kakucho's trajectory is not that steep.

I may not be Calc Groub, the pixel lines and representations you make are not even accurate.

The panel that I use is the panel during the feat, it will be more consistent. even my Calc has been evaluated.
 
Don't want to start a new argument but Mikey was serious the entire time Izana just got weaker.
Don't want to start a new argument but Mikey was serious the entire time Izana just got weaker.
Izana was in a really serious state prior to this when a Mikey was fighting him while nerfed and trying to save Izana but once Mikey gave up on him and got serious, serious Mikey fodderized a serious Izana (who was in his peak condition with no injuries mind you) and was able to evade literally all of his serious attacks with izana resorting to using that exact same gun to try and kill Mikey before Kakucho stopped him.

So this izana wasn't serious business can go entirely out the window fact of the matter is Mikey was completely above him in terms of speed when he stopped trying to save Izana and got serious while Izana was trying his absolute hardest to take down Mikey and while trying to kill him


Mikey definitely scales to this unless you can say that Izana got a speed boost which would be contradicted by draken having a better feat than this that Mikey would still scale to for being faster.


That said your calc will have to be approved and blogged just like the draken calc is in the process of

Literally exactly what I said



Then Mikey gets serious and Izana can't land a hit at his peak



If izana wasn't serious kakucho wouldn't have stopped him from shooting Mikey in which Izana would have been pissed that he did so

 
And no offense @CorbinMLG but this entire time you've argued you've yet to send a single scan and argued circularly so I'm not inclined to argue this further
Btw, Have you put Draken's calculations on the blog? I want to know the calculation news.
I can if I get all the values and reasoning used by @Whiz_Almighty
 
I can if I get all the values and reasoning used by @Whiz_Almighty
The distance Draken moves is an assumption of 1 Meter, Speed of Projectile = I haven't found out yet, what I need to look for is only the distance between Draken and the shooter, I think.
 
Here, you missed these panels.
So this scan doesn't apply for 2 full chapters worth of izana fighting Mikey and the second image in the scan only applies halfway through the chapter as these aren't back to back pages

That said Izana got tired and Mikey still wasn't trying to hurt him as I still sent his goal was to save Izana and show him he still has family in his brother. That being said in the scans I sent once Mikey got serious Izana says himself that he's getting fired up again so the tired izana point you're trying to make doesn't work


Literally all this means is
nerfed Mikey not trying to hurt izana< tired Izana<fired up izana~<izana<serious Mikey
 
So this scan doesn't apply for 2 full chapters worth of izana fighting Mikey and the second image in the scan only applies halfway through the chapter as these aren't back to back pages

That said Izana got tired and Mikey still wasn't trying to hurt him as I still sent his goal was to save Izana and show him he still has family in his brother. That being said in the scans I sent once Mikey got serious Izana says himself that he's getting fired up again so the tired izana point you're trying to make doesn't work
?? Draken said Mikey was fighing with full strength.
 
?? Draken said Mikey was fighing with full strength.
Full strength with THE GOAL of what exactly?

What is Mikey trying to let izana know in this fight, I'll give you a hint.



He's not aiming to beat izana into a bloody pulp or maim him he's right full strength with the goal of saving him

You're entirely ignoring narrative and context in this arguements you're trying to push
 
It seems that debating it will create a bit of a circular argument and fill this page of this thread(even this thread have 4 page), I suggest you debate it in the Tokyo Revengers Discussion(General) instead.
 
It seems that debating it will create a bit of a circular argument and fill this page of this thread(even this thread have 4 page), I suggest you debate it in the Tokyo Revengers Discussion(General) instead.
It's not like it changes their speed anyways so it's not important.
 
Full strength with THE GOAL of what exactly?

What is Mikey trying to let izana know in this fight, I'll give you a hint.



He's not aiming to beat izana into a bloody pulp or maim him he's right full strength with the goal of saving him

You're entirely ignoring narrative and context in this arguements you're trying to push

It doesn't matter what your goal is, if you are going all out then you are going all out
 
Ant this can be closed. The changes have been applied to the relevant characters.

The current arguements made by @CorbinMLG aren't getting anywhere and are just going to lead to more stalling of the thread
 
Okay. Can you give an easy to understand summary of the argument here first though?
 
Okay. Can you give an easy to understand summary of the argument here first though?
@CorbinMLG is arguing that Mikey shouldn't scale to Izana again and used Izana getting tired his current arguement

Don't want to start a new argument but Mikey was serious the entire time Izana just got weaker.

Here's my response to said arguements as it's something I've already covered numerous times in this CRT

So this scan doesn't apply for 2 full chapters worth of izana fighting Mikey and the second image in the scan only applies halfway through the chapter as these aren't back to back pages

That said Izana got tired and Mikey still wasn't trying to hurt him as I still sent his goal was to save Izana and show him he still has family in his brother. That being said in the scans I sent once Mikey got serious Izana says himself that he's getting fired up again so the tired izana point you're trying to make doesn't work


Literally all this means is
nerfed Mikey not trying to hurt izana< tired Izana<fired up izana~<izana<serious Mikey
?? Draken said Mikey was fighing with full strength.
Full strength with THE GOAL of what exactly?

What is Mikey trying to let izana know in this fight, I'll give you a hint.



He's not aiming to beat izana into a bloody pulp or maim him he's right full strength with the goal of saving him

You're entirely ignoring narrative and context in this arguements you're trying to push


That's really the crux of it he doesn't believe Mikey should scale because if said reasons and I'm showing why he does
 
Literally exactly what I said



Then Mikey gets serious and Izana can't land a hit at his peak



If izana wasn't serious kakucho wouldn't have stopped him from shooting Mikey in which Izana would have been pissed that he did so


Scans for part of my arguements as well I sent on the previous page
 
@CorbinMLG is arguing that Mikey shouldn't scale to Izana again and used Izana getting tired his current arguement



Here's my response to said arguements as it's something I've already covered numerous times in this CRT





That's really the crux of it he doesn't believe Mikey should scale because if said reasons and I'm showing why he does
I never said that Mikey shouldn't scale to Izana..
 
I never said that Mikey shouldn't scale to Izana..
Bruh you literally replied in opposition to a arguement I made to fixxxer about Mikey scaling...🤦‍♀️

If there was no arguement we literally wouldn't be in page 4
 
So all the Fixxed arguments have been debunked for now? I have also given my input about the Calc which is not very detailed (you can compare the details with my Calc).

In essence when Mikey is serious he will be at #1 and scale himself higher than the other characters, Invincible Mikey.
 
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