i dont think its about containing lesser dimensions
It see it leaving in the future or atleast gets more modified cause currently it's nonsense to me.
Even lower tiers can qualify not necessary for it to be 1-A, even 1-B can.
Is it about this part
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It does lol. It's the reason why some fodder verses got high ratings. Anyone with common sense can understand it's literary NLF.
dont complain about fodder verses getting high ratings
I don't want to assume the void can fit infinite dimensions, since that would reach NLF territory
Unless it is actually specified that this behaviour specifically also applies to infinite dimensions, you are right that this sounds like the NLF territory.
would the void having an infinite layered axis and adding/removing space without the void being affected count??
Eh I said that's the reason for all of that. There is nothing there to change there if it never existed in FAQ.
It doesn't have infinite layered axis, just time axis acts differently from there, those layers which was shown in that panel are past/future/present events that looks like layers from there.
It says in the same scan that all things are layered endlessly there, not just past future present events. We know all those references about infinite repetition is no joke since the portion of the void is infinite and eternal, amounting all creations to 0. The void is also stated to be beyond creation with endless creations rising and falling
All things are those past present events. You just only focus on a single statement without understanding what it really meant in the context.
That's 2-A.
it can be opened back now
Wasn't it refute in Animal Man Cosmology Determination thread?
It was redundant to the part 2 thread, where he was asked to post his arguments instead.
The details of each cosmology have already been approved. He will have to wait until the project has concluded to attempt to revise it.
I don't know what that is supposed to mean.
No. Not if it's just small spaces. (Small by 1-A standards, I mean)
I have a question.
So if the infinite hierarchy of dream in DeMatteis's cosmology is wrong as you said, how we should tier this cosmology as a whole?
Frankly, it's extremely sus for an account that had 14 posts prior to this thread to come in and try and make such sweeping changes on such poor premises, so I don't think it's particularly prudent to engage with it. The DeMatteis cosmology in the blog is sound, and your own scans are contradicting your conclusions or purely conjecture at best.
Yeah I know that but what about the totality of creation that is currently High 1-B?
New users need to actually comment something first on thread you know. That's how you get post cound.
I know the Smile is called “God, but it’s distinguished from God who’s opposite to the devil. Meaning “God” in that context can’t be referring to “God” as in the Divine Presence. And currently I can’t find a scan of the Smile/God being referred to as the “Divine Presence” which is what Dreamcaster was arguing.
This is a non-sequitur assumption, not anything that's actually indicated by the scans themselves.
And yet, the post you are responding to does exactly that. So we should drop it then? Great.
I'm not. I said a hierarchy of dreams. Why did you leave out that word to misrepresent what my post said?
How is what I said an assumption? The scan directly says the Smile is beyond “God and Devil” but is “a place, a God beyond opposites.”
Not entirely. The main goal was to propose new tiers for the structures and beings which is what this is all about.
Isn’t that what the hierarchy is? On the blog this scan is used as part of the justification for the hierarchy.
Okay, and why does that preclude the Divine Presence? Why are we assuming he isn't the God beyond opposites?
No, we don't use the word "dream" to describe the hierarchy. That piece of evidence is just one of many, and the dream part of it shouldn't be taken literally.
Because the Divine Presence is God who exists in Heaven opposite to the devil who exists in hell. And the Smile is beyond “God and Devil.”
Lol what a pointless topic. I don’t care whether you use the word “dream” to describe it or not, I’m still referring to the hierarchy that exist in Dematteis cosmology.
Do you have evidence of any of that? I recall the Presence in DeMatteis' stories explicitly rejecting the idea that he was in Heaven.
No, it can't. He was responding to someone saying he was inside an amulet. It was clearly and obviously referring to his location.
Saying "that isn't an actual counter" actually isn't a counter. They are arrogant villains, we don't take them underestimating their enemies at face value.
The Presence is distinct from everyone in creation. I am not denying that a devil exists. That's not the premise of the discussion.
Because it's based on an absurd and faulty premise that him responding to a remark about where he was located and saying "I am everywhere" is about something other than his location.
Prove they aren't. We don't take statements from villains at face value. I do not need to prove him wrong. He has an inherent lack of credibility given the context of the conversation that you have failed to overcome.
This is nonsensical. The Presence also isn't Zauriel, are the Presence and Zauriel opposites? Are the Presence and the Phantom Stranger opposites?
I already referenced it several times.
That's not what an opposite is.
No, I don't. You have to prove they're being accurate.
His argument is that being different is the same as being "opposites" which is pretty ridiculous.
no they have too few apperances in comics to qualify for a profile
This is a series of assumptions. The Divine Presence isn't of Heaven, he's omnipresent. He's not the "opposite of the Devil." There's no evidence he can't destroy blight aside from Blight's unproven assumptions. Stranger seems to think otherwise, regardless.
It should be change into Tier 2A.
