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You mean the dudes who get KO’d?
Heck, when they saw him in Dressrosa they were like “we thought Monkey D. Luffy was a 25 foot monster” yada yada yada
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One Piece Chapter 1044: "Warrior of Liberation" (Official Release)
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Heck, when they saw him in Dressrosa they were like “we thought Monkey D. Luffy was a 25 foot monster” yada yada yada
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So what do you all think that Denjiro is up to? For somebody who is supposed to be on roughly the same level as King and Queen, he has not really seemed to have done much since the Kaido fight.
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I doubt he’s even on the level of Queen
Seems like he could fight Jack and win with wounds
Seems like he could fight Jack and win with wounds
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He is supposed to be considerably stronger than the other scabbards (presumably without Sulong involved) and did very well in a fight against Zoro, so I have the impression that we haven't really seen him live up to his potential yet, especially not from a narrative viewpoint.
Maybe he will lead the remaining non-exhausted troops to repell the World Government marines together with Zunesha?
Maybe he will lead the remaining non-exhausted troops to repell the World Government marines together with Zunesha?
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Hmm, didn't Raizo mention evacuation plans or something like that a few chapters? Either Denjiro is involved on that or he's staying in the shadows keeping an eye on Hiyori.
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Yes then they wake up and know Luffys ability
Pretty sure that is just a gag. Anyways all that would be is marines being fooled by WG propaganda. Meanwhile the highest powers in the world government would obviously have access to the truth of what was actually reported
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"They wake up and know Luffy's ability"
They know he stretches. That's it.
Whenever Luffy does something big, what does the world hear?
"Luffy beat so and so"
"Luffy lost to so and so"
Nobody important knows his powers. Now that they do, they want him dead.
It's not the matter of Oda writing himself into a hole, it's the lack of understanding the story. Not everyone knows what Luffy does
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For this to work, there must be other powers that allow you to stretch and give you rubbery powers, otherwise it is a plot hole.
Because Lucci knew Luffy was rubber, Doflamingo did, Smoker, pretty much who faced Luffy knew he was rubber. Saying none of the Marines reported his rubber properties is nonsense,
So the WG knew Luffy could stretch, and was rubber. Assuming there's another rubber fruit that can accomplish the same, there's also the connection that he is a D. and has CoC.
It is painfully obvious that Luffy had either Gomu, or Hito: Nika, it was a 50/50, and the government just went "Naaaaah, it's probably the regular Gomu, no way right?"?
That's stupid.
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The chapter was a ratio
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The chapter was a ratio
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Actually I identify as the ratio king
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Not AS stupid when you realize the fact that it has a consciousness and LITERALLY AVOIDS BEING CAUGHT? What are the chances some Kid from east blue would get his hands on a fruit that was untouchable for 800 years
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I don't think the story has ever canonically mentioned a DF to the WG... ever.
They have never said "hey let's talk about this person who has this specific power".
Law is never stated to be special in the eyes of the WG cause of his power, its cause of his accomplishments. Big Mom isn't the person who rips souls out of people in her empire, she's the person who made an empire. WB isn't the person who can make earthquakes, he's the "strongest man in the world".
They didn't give AF about the fruit until someone said "hey, look at the fruit!". The WG worries about their accomplishments.
When Luffy went and washed Arlong, I don't see anything about his DF.
When Luffy got his 1.5b bounty, I don't see anything about his DF
They worry about accomplishments, not the Devil Fruit.
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It is said that it have it own will thus avoid being caught by the government, if Luffy could eat it, it's because the fruit literally wanted to be eaten by Luffy
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Yall wake up to find nonexistent plot holes in the series and it's ridiculous
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I don't think the story has ever canonically mentioned a DF to the WG... ever.
They have never said "hey let's talk about this person who has this specific power.
Law is never stated to be special in the eyes of the WG cause of his power, its cause of his accomplishments. Big Mom isn't the person who rips souls out of people in her empire, she's the person who made an empire. WB isn't the person who can make earthquakes, he's the "strongest man in the world".
They didn't give AF about the fruit until someone said "hey, look at the fruit!". The WG worries about their accomplishments.
When Luffy went and washed Arlong, I don't see anything about his DF.
When Luffy got his 1.5b bounty, I don't see anything about his DF
They worry about accomplishments, not the Devil Fruit.
you are a really based and respectful man, good job
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Ppl I doubt that luffy and joyboy were the only ones to eat the fruit in 800 years. They are probably the only ones that managed to awaken it. With the number of irrelevant gomu gomu no mi users that came and went throughout time the world government probably lowered their guard.
They didn’t expect anyone to awaken it and got scared when they noticed that Luffy was near that stage.
They didn’t expect anyone to awaken it and got scared when they noticed that Luffy was near that stage.
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I know, but as far as anyone knows, those chances are nonexistent. It won't just get caught outta' nowhere when it hasn't been touched in 800 years. That might be why it wasn't a big deal UNTIL they were absolutely sure that, that was it.
based
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thats valid I guess, the power of the Gomu Gomu no Mi (hito hito) literally depends of the user creativity, which is the reason that some people consider the Gomu Gomu as a weak fruit
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Also I love the fact that Luffy was casually eating the Gomu Gomu no Mi despite the devil fruits tasting like shit
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I don't think the story has ever canonically mentioned a DF to the WG... ever.
They have never said "hey let's talk about this person who has this specific power".
Law is never stated to be special in the eyes of the WG cause of his power, its cause of his accomplishments. Big Mom isn't the person who rips souls out of people in her empire, she's the person who made an empire. WB isn't the person who can make earthquakes, he's the "strongest man in the world".
They didn't give AF about the fruit until someone said "hey, look at the fruit!". The WG worries about their accomplishments.
When Luffy went and washed Arlong, I don't see anything about his DF.
When Luffy got his 1.5b bounty, I don't see anything about his DF
They worry about accomplishments, not the Devil Fruit.
The second part was the news bird guy, he doesn't own the government shit.
The first part is literally Luffy's first accomplishment.
Yes, they care about accomplishments more than DF. They still are showing interest in Luffy's DF now, rather than before.
That's it, that's a fact. They HAD the information that Luffy was a D. with CoC with powers of both rubber and stretchiness.
Lucci, Smoker and others that have shown to know of Luffy's rubber body knew it. The WG 100% had these informations, but just now they make the connection? No, that's bullshit, it's clear the decision to give Luffy that fruit was during Wano.
Again, it is a plot hole, it is contrived, you just have to accept it for the sake of entertainment.
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Some kid, who is the son of Dragon, Grandson of Garp, brother of the son of Roger and the right hand of the Revolutionary Army
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And he wasn't starving like Yamato or anything. He saw it and his brain just went "Eat it."
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How could I have forgottenalso the main character of the verse
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In a chest that was likely closed btw. My man Luffy probably smelled it
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Honestly, there's only plotholes if you actively make them up. As far as the story's concerned, Gorosei never directly saw Luffy fight or had someone close to them like CP0 (who get info and orders that even higher-ups like fleet admirals don't) do.
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That's why I don't blame them for not knowing he had said fruit from day 1.
But let me rephrase this using the info the WG had after Marinford.
"What are the chances this kid, who is son of the most heinous criminal in the world and grandson of the Navy's hero, AND brother of the K.o.P's son, who is also a D., AND who also has Conquerors Haki, AND can stretch and is rubber, would get his hands on a fruit that's literally untouchable to WG (and not to anyone else)???"
Astronomically high, Snoopy.
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because he is the main character
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Again, I am okay with this. I don't think it ruins the story, and quite like Hito Hito's powers.
But it is contrived, Oda will have to ignore it, or dance his way out of this. (probably with a gag, like he did with Kin'emon)
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I feel like shanks will be hated at the end of one piece
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the moment that people accept that black beard actually is the good guy in the verse, the society will have a progress
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Shanks: "So remember that boy I saved that have the power similar to the Sun God, Nika?"
Gorosei 1: (Realization) "... NO!"
Shanks: "... Aand remember how you thought he was just regular rubber?"
Gorosei 2: "Holy shit..."
Gorosei 3: "Wait, I don't understand-"
Gorosei 1: "Luffy has the Hito Hito no Mi!"
Gorosei 3: (Terrified) "OH...... O-K-A-Y-"
— Credits to DBZ:Abridged
Gorosei 1: (Realization) "... NO!"
Shanks: "... Aand remember how you thought he was just regular rubber?"
Gorosei 2: "Holy shit..."
Gorosei 3: "Wait, I don't understand-"
Gorosei 1: "Luffy has the Hito Hito no Mi!"
Gorosei 3: (Terrified) "OH...... O-K-A-Y-"
— Credits to DBZ:Abridged
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I'd be heartbroken if Shanks actually did prioritize the balance of the world over Luffy's goal, though. That's actually not impossible.
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All you’re doing is assuming someone would say “oh yeah he stretches”.
If the WG cared about the DF then Law would hit a billion right now.
They didn’t know. Simple. People can see it and not talk about it.
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Personally i think instead he its purposely manipulating Luffy and everyone else to bring the Dawn of The World.
The may have tell the Gorosei about Luffy so that they would send someone to kill him only to fail and actually awaken his DF.
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