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One Piece Chapter 1003: "Night on the board" (Official Release)

Dr.Fix said:
Well don't hold back now, tell us how you really feel :O
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Sorry. The subject is a big trigger for me. I grew up with these stories, and then a bunch of corrupt and opportunistic deceitful manipulative and hypocritical propagandists with agendas took everything that I loved about these franchises and mutilated and defiled it almost beyond all recognition.

Anyway, now I have discovered some great manga and anime instead, definitely including One Piece, so it isn't like I have nothing that I enjoy at least.
 
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Yes, definitely agreed. Unfortunately they just want to produce slanted, dishonest, and mindless fundamentalist propaganda, so they won't.
 
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Me personally I am very happy One Piece is as successful and the highest selling manga that it currently is. It’s one of the greatest stories I’ve ever read that handles all aspects of story telling exceptionally well, whenever it’s characters, the world and overall narrative. And I’ve met many great friends thanks to One Piece and really admire all of their dedication and devotion to it. Like the buildup and celebration of chapter 1000 is the perfect example when I saw how One Piece has impacted the lives of several people and how much enjoyment and inspiration they’ve had over the years thanks to One Piece. Oda’s a fantastic author and man and I have nothing but respect for him for all he’s done and how wonderful he’s been as an author and to all of the readers I am definitely excited for how much time One Piece has left and I know Oda will continue to write more incredible chapters for all of us to enjoy.
 
I strongly agree with Js250476. One Piece is an amazingly imaginative and entertaining story, and has the most important theme there is on top of that: The fight against tyranny and slavery, and for human dignity and self-reliance, so I really love it.
 
Antvasima said:
Yes, definitely agreed. Unfortunately they just want to produce slanted dishonest and mindless fundamentalist propaganda, so they won't.
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I feel that. I remember watching a review of a Captain Marvel story run, where they introduced a character named Ripley Ryan (AKA Star). When they announced a Star comic run, I was like "If I wrote this, I could fix Carol as a character, create a new and interesting storyline, and undo the disrespect they showed Thor".

But unfortunately, I didn't write it, and I was immediately disappointed. There's a reason Kimetsu no Yaiba pretty much outsold all of the American comics last year.

With One Piece, Fire Force, and most anime, I really haven't been disappointed that much recently. Not to mention, there's also far more continuity in manga than in comics now, I would say.
 
Marvel and DC need a legitimate reboot and just have a set group of writers with a common shared idea and core ideology for how the story will go. They need plans for the characters and how they’ll handle situations and such. They need consistency.

I dont have an issue if they want to show POC, LGBT+ characters or Women in positive/main lights but there are ways to properly do that without ruining your story and characters. Their are plenty of beloved characters who represent each of those so it’s obviously very much possible.

Imo I generally dislike when they change an existing character drastically to fit a different mold, if they want to do stories about POC or such make them their own character and actually put thought into their existence and personalities while showing their struggles. It will make the character much more real and relatable.
 
Yes, strongly agreed, and there is such a thing as lifting up such characters without trampling all over and severely distorting ones that do not fit the editorial departments' favoured intersectionalist templates.
 
Anyway, my apologies for the derailment. Please carry on.
 
PsychoWarper said:
Marvel and DC need a legitimate reboot and just have a set group of writers with a common shared idea and core ideology for how the story will go. They need plans for the characters and how they’ll handle situations and such. They
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I don't read many comics, but isn't DC trying to do that with Infinite Frontier?
 
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Antvasima said:
Sorry. The subject is a big trigger for me. I grew up with these stories, and then a bunch of corrupt and opportunistic deceitful manipulative and hypocritical propagandists with agendas took everything that I loved about these franchises and mutilated and defiled it almost beyond all recognition.
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It is a bit concerning you feel that strongly if the reason is just not everyone is white, male, and hetero anymore . . . . .
 
Dr.Fix said:
It is a bit concerning you feel that strongly if the reason is just not everyone is white, male, and hetero anymore . . . . .
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Uhh, you are aware that Ant liked the following post, right?
PsychoWarper said:
Marvel and DC need a legitimate reboot and just have a set group of writers with a common shared idea and core ideology for how the story will go. They need plans for the characters and how they’ll handle situations and such. They need consistency.

I dont have an issue if they want to show POC, LGBT+ characters or Women in positive/main lights but there are ways to properly do that without ruining your story and characters. Their are plenty of beloved characters who represent each of those so it’s obviously very much possible.

Imo I generally dislike when they change an existing character drastically to fit a different mold, if they want to do stories about POC or such make them their own character and actually put thought into their existence and personalities while showing their struggles. It will make the character much more real and relatable.
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It's not that all characters aren't white, male and hetero anymore, it's that those characters get made into nigh-incompetent fodder to look the new characters look better. For example, I could make a black Kryptonian character, but I wouldn't make Superman look as lame as possible to show how awesome my new character is, or make him seem like he's more awesome than Superman solely because he's black. What I would do is make him different, I'd show the ways that he's an interesting character, the ways he's not just a recolor of Superman, and would tell interesting stories with him that don't degrade Superman, but that make the character compelling and interesting.

In no story should you ever have to utterly destroy another previously established character with clearly defined character traits, personality, ideals, etc. just for another character. That's bad writing.
 
ZoroNotZolo said:
But enough derailing, let's talk more One Piece. Mihawk, Kaido, Zoro, Luffy, Oden, etc.

That's the purpose of this thread lol
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Mihawk wasn't actually featured in this chapter but I get your point.

To that end what are people's expectations for Cipher Zero? Both plot wise and strength wise, what will they do in Wano and how powerful are they?
 
Dr.Fix said:
To that end what are people's expectations for Cipher Zero? Both plot wise and strength wise, what will they do in Wano and how powerful are they?
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Manga Reader​

I only care about Stussy, Kaku, and Lucci. If they aren't as strong as they are portrayed in the movies (Lucci ~ Sabo), then idc.

Powerscaler​

I want the Doriki of CP0.

Then I want proof of Linear Doriki of CP0.
 
Remind me why isn't Kaido's lifting feat not applicable despite him tanking his Boro-Breath, which utilizes Flame-Clouds as well.


They should either scale directly to his lifting feat or above it.
 
Didn't a user prove so using the raw scans? I remember reading something along those lines when the feat came out.
 
Last derailing opinion because I seem to have missed a rather interesting discussion : The problem with DC and Marvel I think, is that they are run primarily as a business. Clearly the idpol is good for business (which is why they do it) and being a business, they want to maximize profits at minimum risk - which leads to all these new stories being linked to already existing and beloved characters and franchises (often ending up disrespecting them)...

On the other hand, mangaka are allowed remarkable freedom to experiment with brand new and exciting story ideas. There are very few, almost no crossover events and the publisher generally let's individual mangaka+editor units do their thing. And only the most popular stories coming out of that jungle of creativity survive. I think it is a far superior system to how western comics are written

Sorry, rant over
 
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Anyway, to clarify a bit, ZoroNotZolo is correct. I am obviously extremely for human dignity and positive role models for everybody who are not straight, male, western, Christian, or caucasian.

The problem is that the intersectionalists in charge of western media are treating being straight, male, Christian, western, or caucasian as something inherently evil, malignant, inferior, and reprehensible, and do their best to tear down, demonise, slander, and vilify them as much as possible in acts of extreme bigotry, which only serves the interests of their totalitarian true far right capitalist oligarch paymasters, who want to play ideological divide and conquer with the working class, so they do not unite and rise up against their true oppressors.

Or that is the way that I have understood the situation anyway. I strongly subscribe to the Martin Luther King view of the world: Equality regardless of ethnicity and judging people by the contents of their characters, not bigotry in any direction.
 
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Antvasima said:
Anyway, to clarify a bit, ZoroNotZolo is correct. I am obviously extremely for human dignity and positive role models for everybody who are not straight, male, western, Christian, or caucasian.

The problem is that the intersectionalists in charge of western media are treating being straight, male, Christian, western, or caucasian as something inherently evil, malignant, inferior, and reprehensible, and do their best to tear down, demonise, slander, and vilify them as much as possible in acts of extreme bigotry, which only serves the interests of their totalitarian true far right capitalist oligarch paymasters, who want to play ideological divide and conquer with the working class, so they do not unite and rise up against their true oppressors.

Or that is the way that I have understood the situation anyway. I strongly subscribe to the Martin Luther King view of the world: Equality regardless of ethnicity and judging people by the contents of their characters, not bigotry in any direction.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
Thank you for the information.
 
Can we talk about how Zoro doesn't deserve to cut Kaido and doesn't deserve to fight a Yonko and be even close to his level
 
Luffy had to earn being above Yonko Commander level and reach new power to even damage Kaido

Yet here Zoro is without doing half of that and yet he's cutting Kaido? This is some BS...
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Can we talk about how Zoro doesn't deserve to cut Kaido and doesn't deserve to fight a Yonko and be even close to his level
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It's a genuine powerup Zoro received broski, what are you talking about? Lol at least he isn't getting a random power up simply because his friends are in danger or something typical like that.



The way I see it, Zoro is a respected swordsman who's been practicing the art for years, for his honor as well as Kuina's. Therefore it's fitting for someone like Zoro to obtain such a legendary blade like Enma.



Basically think of it like Erza's Natsu and Gray swords, it's the sword doing the work, not Zoro.
 
I don't mind Zoro doing it with Enma/Oden. Anyone else doing it would be completely unbeleiveable at this point thanks to Oda's narrative.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
It's not like Zoro never actually showed his full power at any point during the Post-TS era or anything like that, nope. Not at all. He clearly struggled against fodder like Hyouzou and Pica, so yeah he clearly has no business being here.
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You didn't listen to me, I said he doesn't deserve this, he hasn't even proven he can fight and beat a Yonko Commander like Luffy painstakingly had to do, so now he's fighting and hurting a Yonko? Zoro and Killer don't deserve to be in this fight at all yet
 
When did Law or Kid prove they could fight beat commanders either? In fact Law specifically got bodied by someone around that tier.

Honestly I think it's better Zoro didn't fight a commander since at least based off Luffy the people on that tier are prone to get one shot by Yonko.
 
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When did Law or Kid prove they could fight beat commanders either? In fact Law specifically got bodied by someone around that tier.

Honestly I think it's better Zoro didn't fight a commander since at least based off Luffy the people on that tier are prone to get one shot by Yonko.
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Didn't Law get clapped by Fuji? Is that what you're referring to?
 
I mean Law and Kid didn't defeat any high level Yonko commander that I can think of, and I don't see anyone complaining about them being able to somewhat damage Kaido.

Zoro always has been, and always will be, just a hair below Luffy in terms of combat ability if not outright equal to him. That has always been his portrayal as I saw it, and it makes sense as his only role on the crew is combat related, right down to his dream. He always takes out the second in command/second strongest opponent of the arc, and usually beats them in convincing fashion while Luffy struggles against his stronger opponent, which implies that the gap between them isn't that large.

The fight with Kaido is actually setting somewhat of a precedent where both Luffy and Zoro are taking on the final boss together, which makes sense again due to the magnitude of Kaido's power. So expect Luffy and Zoro (and the rest of the Supernova present on the roof) to get even better feats as the fight progresses, because let's face it.......They're not going to lose at the end of the day.

I think people seriously need to manage their expectations a bit, and realize that this has kinda always been the case with Luffy and Zoro. This "massive gap between them" has never been a thing, and has only surfaced in the fanbase post-ts due to Zoro's lack of serious fights up until now (which is understandable in all fairness. After a decade without a serious fight, I'd start underestimating him too if I wasn't such a massive fanboy lol)
 
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