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Nah he definitely was harmed by her blows and was staggered, she doesn't really have any anti-feats to her current ratings
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Nah he definitely was harmed by her blows and was staggered, she doesn't really have any anti-feats to her current ratings
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Really? This shit again?
Gauntlet siphoning is headcanon. Carol traded a few blows with thanos before getting grabbed and tossed to the side (because of an obvious weight difference), and then came back overpowering him to the point where he was forced to opt for a power stone blast to get her off of him. Carol at no point was shown to be harmed by Thanos outside of the power stone blast.
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If she was stronger then him by that much the whole time she would have rag dolled him from the beginning. Thanos never. He literally never hit her outside of the heatbutt(which she probably siphoned the energy by that point) and the power stone punch. Despite this being headcannon it’s kinda the only thing that actually explains this interaction because outside of that fight she isn’t shown to be above him constantly
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Not saying he wasn’t, my point is she shouldn’t be above him atleast without the possibility of energy drain
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But the thing is she clearly is and even outside of endgame in universe and irl it's considered that captain marvel is stronger than Thanos and could've beaten him
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This is straight silly. You don't need to ragdoll someone to scale to them. They've had 2 direct interactions with each other. 1 being the ambush in which the plan was to have everyone take measures to restrain him out of caution, and the other in which Carol traded blows, tanked hits, and blatantly overpowered Thanos. We do not need to use headcanon here to prove anything.
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That's just your headcanon though
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I'm so ******* tired of this Carol argument man. Its been brought up soooooooooooooooooooooo many times all with the same arguments. This is now the 4th time its been brought up in the last 2 and a half months.
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Literally this
And yeah when it was just brought up I immediately started thinking of those old CRT's of people trying to argue this weird downgrade
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Ok then it should just be an outlier then like spider man catching culls hammers
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Why the hell would it be an outlier?
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Because it’s a massive inconsistency
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Literally how? Carol has been always been shown to be around or just straight up above Thanos' level.
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Yeah that literally doesn't make sense that's literally her only showings captain marvel fighting Thanos isn't an outlier especially seeing as in lore she's considered to be someone who can take him out and in actual irl
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-> Showings explicitly displaying Carol above or equal to Thanos
-> Carol easily tanking blows from Thanos without flinching
-> Multiple WoG statements claiming her to be stronger than Thanos (iirc, or something along those lines)
-> In universe statements claiming her capable of defeating Thanos
"Carol scaling to thanos is a massive inconsistency"
okay lmao.
-> Carol easily tanking blows from Thanos without flinching
-> Multiple WoG statements claiming her to be stronger than Thanos (iirc, or something along those lines)
-> In universe statements claiming her capable of defeating Thanos
"Carol scaling to thanos is a massive inconsistency"
okay lmao.
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Just say you hate Brie Larson and move on with it.
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We literally have WoG supporting everything she's done in interviews and specific showings and mentions of such in universe there's literally no contradictions
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No she literally hasn’t, she goes from just punching and blasting him in the face and chin sack just staggering around a couple times to her straight up no selling his headbutt and completely over powering which is a massive jump in power. Hell in there first actually interaction the titan was straight up overpowering her while wounded
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I have already shown you that is not the case
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What are you even talking about?
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Wanda goes from having her blasts blocked by Thanos and being slightly overpowered by his sword to breaking his sword with a single attack and then TKing him to the point of nearly killing him. What a massive jump in power! Downgrade Wanda now and make her "6-C with anger"!
also, did anyone think that lil Shuri was cute? Cuz I did
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Feats >statements, I’ve already shown the inconsistency’s
Meh, Wanda’s powers grow and change with time and depending on how strong her emotions are. Not the same thing
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You do not have to start out immediately overpowering someone to scale above them. There are many fights in fiction where the fight starts off seemingly even and then ends with one side overpowering the other. Prove Carol used energy absorption outside of "its the only logical explanation"
Your only 'inconsistency' that you've 'shown' is that she was staggering him and then began overpowering him and tanked a headbutt which isn't really an inconsistency.
Your only 'inconsistency' that you've 'shown' is that she was staggering him and then began overpowering him and tanked a headbutt which isn't really an inconsistency.
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True but that generally happens when both characters are atleast relative in might and then the somewhat stronger person gradually starts winning. Carol atleast went from beginning somewhat comparable(arguably) to thanos to no-selling his blows and completely overpowering him in a couple of seconds
it kinda is considering if we’re supposed to just go with the fact that she overpowered thanos the way that she did she should have layer his ass out in the first couple of hits. Plus there’s also the fact he flat out was overpowering her at the beginning of endgame as well
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How was Thanos overpowering her at all here? Her goal was to get him in a neck hold (which she did successfully and with no problems) and she simply kicked out her leg to stop him from closing his fist which Thanos managed to resist a little bit before hulkbuster came in. Did we watch the same movie?
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I'm tired. I have zero interest in entertaining this headcanon argument anymore. This is the 4th time this has been brought up with the same arguments. I'm done here. Make a CRT and have this argument unaccepted officially for the 4th time.
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By pushing her leg away. And from probably using his hand to throw her of. His clearly overpowering her leg. Pretty much
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This isn’t even manly about headcannon this is just a straight up outlier but whatever I’m done to
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Resisting isn't overpowering. She had her leg extended out fully to prevent him from closing his fist. He managed to make her lend bend a little bit before Hulkbuster came in. It's beyond me how you managed to somehow twist this scene into Carol being overpowered.
Overpowering and tanking is mostly LS and Dura anyways. The argument of there being an outlier seems incredibly thin to me.
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Considering he was doing quick he was doing it I would consider it more then just resisting. Yes and to stop him from grabbing her and throwing her off
already pointed how she should have beat him down immediately if she was actually that strong constantly so I’d say it’s more then just LS and dura
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Not in that way lol
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WTF!?! even happened to this thread?
Shipping, more Thanos scaling shenanigans, FBI, etc.
It seems I'm trapped in a "what it...?"
Shipping, more Thanos scaling shenanigans, FBI, etc.
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This is what happens when we don’t have much new stuff to chew on since most people didn’t seem to vibe with the new what if that much(expect me, I thought it was pretty good)
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Episodes ranked so far imo
1.) Strange Supreme
2.) Zombies
3.) Dead avengers
4.) Capain Carter
5.) Star Lord T'challa
6.) Killmonger saves Tony
1.) Strange Supreme
2.) Zombies
3.) Dead avengers
4.) Capain Carter
5.) Star Lord T'challa
6.) Killmonger saves Tony
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Gotta say the zombie episode it was REALLY weird that no one gave a damn killing zombies they were friends with, like Bucky killing Cap after being told there was hope to cure him. Yeah I'm late to the party but better late than never
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It was kinda only Bucky though.
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Not news at all but it is at least good knowing that conditions were good and accommodations were made on set to have the best experience working on the movie as possible
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