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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Eh, the scene implies the zombies broke through the armor.


I dunno how gamma blood allows resistance and stuff. Plus it doesn't explain how Thanos got infected


Tbh, I'd expect a much smarter strategy than what they went with.
Not really, they just dogpiled him

already said it could have been Hank, I’d assume there might be some lvls of high radiation protecting his immune system(or however his body works)

Eh they probably weren’t expecting the zombies to be too much of a problem until Hank came but ya they could have gone about it smarter
 
You know what’s funny? Despite being turned into a literally walking corpse the eats human flesh, cap still has some nice ass teeth
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Tbh, a lot of things in the episode kinda felt PIS. Thanos should not got infected at all considering no one on earth can even scratch him. How regular ass citizens managed to break through the Model 50 is questionable. And how Hulk seems to get resistance to the bites is never explained. I guess Hulk's physiology just so happens to resist it.

And why did the Avengers just go there without some sorta antidote to cure shit? It just seems so... out of character
Dude. Put spoiler tags
 
This was a fun little episode, but as people have said, boy is there some stuff that doesn't make sense.

In my own headcanon I want Luis to be the ultimate survivor, by just chatting his way out of being mauled by zombies, through one of his long stories.
 
So, as mentioned previously, Hank Pym seems to be getting involved in a lot of unfortunate scenarios.

What If the last episode has his involvement in creating Ultron alongside Tony and Banner? Would be a pretty fitting nod to his comic origin story and makes Ultron more powerful by giving him access to Pym Particles right off the bat.
 
Also it seems like the zombies are somewhat intelligent, like they don't seem to have the same degree as intelligence as their alive selves but they do know how to use tactics and their own past abilities, and zombie Thanos seems to be aware of how to use the infinity gauntlet.

Yeah they definitely seem like Romero Zombies; where they have some memories and know how to use weapons (in certain films)
Tho, overall, I don't think anything here warrants a profile. Tbh, I kinda thought Spider Man would learn magic because of the images with him and the cape and stuff. Ah well.

TBH I can see the more prominent undead getting some but idk. Infinity Stone might get some powers from this also Wanda
might be able to get Mind Resistance for Zombie Wanda being immune to the treatments
 
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Just saw the episode a few hours ago. Thought it was really fun actually. Fun to see how far they would go with the concept. Very gory to (for an idea of gory since there was almost no blood). The Vision twist honestly took me by surprise, much more by the rest of the episode. Lot of tragic but terrifying death and all of this brings very sinister implications for the Quantum Realm. Maybe they will reference it in the next Ant-Man film.
Still think the Doctor Strange episode was the best and by far but this one is really great.

So will the zombie versions get their own profile?
 
Just saw the episode a few hours ago. Thought it was really fun actually. Fun to see how far they would go with the concept. Very gory to (for an idea of gory since there was almost no blood). The Vision twist honestly took me by surprise, much more by the rest of the episode. Lot of tragic but terrifying death and all of this brings very sinister implications for the Quantum Realm. Maybe they will reference it in the next Ant-Man film.
Still think the Doctor Strange episode was the best and by far but this one is really great.
I feel if anything they'd reference it in Doctor Strange as an aberrant timeline out there. Makes sense since it's a horror film apparently
 
I've watched Shang-Chi. Really great movie tbh. Its in my top 5 MCU films at the very least. Potentially top 3.

Before I talk about how much I loved the movie and what it means for the MCU going forward, I wanna get a few vsbw things out of the way first before I forget about them.

After reading through some of the spoiler tags from the earlier conversations, drug resistance, pain null, Chi Manip, Paralysis, and Pressure Points should all be removed from Wenwu's profile unless they come from an official marvel source. I have no idea why we're using some random Fandom infographic on twitter with no source whatsoever, but we can't be doing that. Fandom is not an official source. If they all come from director statements or stuff on a Marvel.com profile, then they're good to stay, but otherwise they should go. They were never displayed in the movie either.
 
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This movie had reaaaaallly great cinematography. Easily on par, if not better than Doc Strange 1 at least Imo. Massive post ahead.

Action scenes were excellent throughout the movie. This movie had a perfect balance between great cinematography and great choreography. The CGI for this movie looks especially promising. The only fight scene I really didn't like all that much was the train fight, but that was mainly because of all the bus swerving and crashing that was throwing me off. Wasn't really a bad fight scene either.

SC versus Wenwu 2.0 and Wenwu vs Ying Le were by far the best fight scenes in the movie and arguably some of the best in the MCU imo. Both were just straight up fictional combat beauty at its finest. The background scenery and the bright colors of Wenwu vs Ying Le and the Ring clashing, emotional drive, and anger vs calmness of Shang-Chi vs Wenwu 2.0 were what made both of those fights amazing.

The Wong-Abom cameo was a delight to see, but I'm a bit disappointed they never explained why exactly Wong was cage fighting (and befriending) a gamma monster in San Fran. Though it does make me wonder when exactly this movie takes place in the MCU timeline because it makes it all the more weirder and funnier if Wong is doing this stuff during the events of NWH.

Speaking of Wong, that Mid-credits was quite awkward. I already had it spoiled for me that Bruce would be there, but Carol was an odd surprise. They cut themselves short on saying what exactly the Ring beacon was, but the point was definitely made across that the Rings are still a complete mystery and that their true potential only has yet to be revealed. It also seems like they're going to be preparing Shang Chi for some sort of threat soon? Banner said good luck iirc and Wong was giving a seemingly serious warning. Potentially something to do with MoM(?) doubt it though. Considering Banner and more importantly Carol were there, its probably something we haven't been introduced to or teased about yet. Wong singing karaoke with Katy and SC was awesome though. I love Wong so much man. Benedict Wong truly is the best person to play Wong. Can't wait to see more of this dude in NWH (for a lil bit) and in MoM.
 
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