MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[Dalesean027]

I hope the IG will get some kinda actual AP rating instead of Unknown. Although I guess Unknown is somewhat fitting as the stones are more hax than AP, but still.

Welp we do have the ultron what if episode to look forward to so hopefully that can shed more light and give us better feats for the stones

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I hope the IG will get some kinda actual AP rating instead of Unknown. Although I guess Unknown is somewhat fitting as the stones are more hax than AP, but still.

There's the Ultron episode for that lol

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I kinda what the opposite of that lol, more scaling for the mad titan

Well if we can have an upgrade for Thanos and good ratings for the Eternals at the same time, it will be perfect lol

 

[Dalesean027]

Well if we can have an upgrade for Thanos and good ratings for the Eternals at the same time, it will be perfect lol

For sure I'd love that

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I mean, they're the Eternals, we should have great feats from the movie

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I saw a Quora post on some Thor storm calcs. Are any of them usable?

Thor’s Storms Calc(MCU)

Since Ben requested them, might as well as do them before I go on vacation. *Thor summons a storm around the Quinjet: https://youtu.be/1l5Vf4B6zGI Nothing much to look here, clouds were already there so I can’t use KE or Vap/Con. Using 20 km visibility for this, since I have we are seeing prett...

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[Dalesean027]

I saw a Quora post on some Thor storm calcs. Are any of them usable?

Thor’s Storms Calc(MCU)

Since Ben requested them, might as well as do them before I go on vacation. *Thor summons a storm around the Quinjet: https://youtu.be/1l5Vf4B6zGI Nothing much to look here, clouds were already there so I can’t use KE or Vap/Con. Using 20 km visibility for this, since I have we are seeing prett...

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We'll need them to be reviewed by calc members but if they're good then they'll result in some pretty good upgrades

 

[ArkhamDC06]

W'll definitely need calc but if they're good, at worse they can be used as supportive feats

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I saw a Quora post on some Thor storm calcs. Are any of them usable?

Thor’s Storms Calc(MCU)

Since Ben requested them, might as well as do them before I go on vacation. *Thor summons a storm around the Quinjet: https://youtu.be/1l5Vf4B6zGI Nothing much to look here, clouds were already there so I can’t use KE or Vap/Con. Using 20 km visibility for this, since I have we are seeing prett...

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I can't open the link

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Made a blog post and thread for the storm calcs

MCU Thor Storm Calcs

vsbattles.fandom.com

https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-thor-storm-calcs.123691/

 

[Qawsedf234]

Lol we're definitely getting tier 4 and tier 3 celestials so Eson's might not end up being an outlier

It's not Eson's feat. It's an alternate calc of the power stone's energy wave that's noted as being incorrect

EDIT: Nvm, I need to divide by the area of the atmosphere which just makes the result even lower than the parting of the atmosphere, so no.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Main CRT is here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-age-of-crt.109498/ But here's the copy paste


MCU actually got some Tier 4 shit lmao

Cool. Also, Eson's durability feat is outdated. It uses an old calc for the Power Stone and it was requested to use his canon height of 600 metres

I actually wanted to comment on this again after my last comment, but forgot to.

I think 20m is still way too small personally.

• First off, Celestials Comic Canon height is 600m.
• Eson's legs in this scene go behind a small hill, which doesn't even come close to his knees.
• The absolute bare minimum size I could find for a "Hill" of this size (Not even assuming it's a Mountain), is around 30m.

With this, I personally believe it's more than viable to assume that Eson should be comparable in size to his Canon self,

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Oof

 

[Qawsedf234]

• Eson the Searcher parts clouds (88.32 tenatons, Small Star level+) *note: blatant outlier

This uses a formula that we reject due to getting hyper inflated results and the calc itself mentions that it didn't do the math correctly here. Eson, as mentioned earlier, was also not the one who did this feat but the power stone.

• Odin turns his wife into stars (250.3 Foe, Solar System level) *note: blatant outlier

This uses a non-canon Burger King comic and the actual movie scene shows her turning into vague lights rather than stars.

• Thor sucks in stars (206.85 tenatons, Star level) *blatant outlier

This isn't Thor nor does this scale to Thor. This is the Bifrost sucking in the "stars". Considering the beam of the Bifrost couldn't even destroy a single planet quickly I doubt those were actual stars as well rather than vague lights or gas pockets.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Burger King comic

What?

Btw, do you have source on the 5 gigaton statement?

And why was the 6-C Iron Man meteor rejected?

 

[Qawsedf234]

What?

There's two Naruto Forums calcs about this feat. The one you linked and a redo that uses a Burger King tie-in comic. The assumption that he made her into stars is ultimately not supported anywhere

Btw, do you have source on the 5 gigaton statement?

Its from Endgame

And why was the 6-C Iron Man meteor rejected?

Because it didn't account for Iron Man's much smaller cross section

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Its from Endgame

5.836 Gigatons. Almost 6 Gigatons. This should be added to the profile

Because it didn't account for Iron Man's much smaller cross section

Oof

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

There's two Naruto Forums calcs about this feat. The one you linked and a redo that uses a Burger King tie-in comic. The assumption that he made her into stars is ultimately not supported anywhere


Its from Endgame

Because it didn't account for Iron Man's much smaller cross section

Wasn't the number still rising for the power surge?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Wasn't the number still rising for the power surge?

I recheked the scene, it only peaked at 5 Gigatons, almost 6 if you round it off

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I recheked the scene, it only peaked at 5 Gigatons, almost 6 if you round it off

Huh. Doesn't really sound like "ridiculously cosmic proportions" then

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Huh. Doesn't really sound like "ridiculously cosmic proportions" then

Tbf, not much in the verse comes close to it. Plus it could just be hyperbole, ignoring the statement, the feat feels like, only High 6-A at best.

 

[Qawsedf234]

. Plus it could just be hyperbole, ignoring the statement, the feat feels like, only High 6-A at best.

We have only one population statement in the franchise, which is consistent given every other time they've used trillion as a population figure.

5,000,000,000,000 * 3,000,000,000 (high end completely vaporization figure for a human) = 1.5e+22 Joules or Low 6-B

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

We have only one population statement in the franchise, which is consistent given every other time they've used trillion as a population figure.

5,000,000,000,000 * 3,000,000,000 (high end completely vaporization figure for a human) = 1.5e+22 Joules or Low 6-B

I'm not exactly sure what you're calcing

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm not exactly sure what you're calcing

The maximum amount of energy you could calculate from the snap

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The maximum amount of energy you could calculate from the snap

But why use the population of people? Isn't through deconstruction, which is hax

 

[Qawsedf234]

But why use the population of people?

I figured that's the only way you could get another number from it.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

No wonder the Snap doesn't have a proper tier

 

[KieranH10]

I've already made a calc of atomizing 5 Trillion humanoids for the Infinity Gauntlet if that's what's being done here. It was declined on the regard of being hax.

Also yes, as I said in the current Eson the Searcher calc, it needs recalculating pretty badly.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I've already made a calc of atomizing 5 Trillion humanoids for the Infinity Gauntlet if that's what's being done here. It was declined on the regard of being hax.

Also yes, as I said in the current Eson the Searcher calc, it needs recalculating pretty badly.

What would be the expected result of the recalc? A higher tier?

 

[KieranH10]

Probably would bring it to High 6-A as a guess.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

A High 6-A character in the MCU...

 

[KieranH10]

I read that as "Created Tony Stark" and got really confused for a second.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Where is this from?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I've already made a calc of atomizing 5 Trillion humanoids for the Infinity Gauntlet if that's what's being done here. It was declined on the regard of being hax.

How much did it yield?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

How much did it yield?

MCU - The Snap...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Same tier

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I don't think we should use toy descriptions...

 

[KieranH10]

Make a profile for the toy ez.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Make a profile for the toy ez.

10-C, with SOL attack speed. Blitz majority of the verse ez

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The fact that Thanos' asshole is more durable than vibranium bothers me

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Not really. We think pure vibranium is 6-C