MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[Dalesean027]

Why is the snap a low end?

No idea I just assumed that's what it is

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Lack of consistency whatever, we've had a bunch of T6 feats with a handful of T5 feats, let's be honest, the reason we don't upgrade them from their positions is because of shows like Loki where normal humans with no cannon amps can one-shot Loki.

I think 8-A Loki is likely an Outlier, as that's the only feat he has on that level, and most of his feats are like 9-A to 8-C. And I'd argue Mark 6 Iron Man should be above him but I'll save that for next time

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Why is the snap a low end?

I guess it's because the snap is far lower than any other Tier 6 feat that Thanos scales to? It's only very barely above baseline Tier 6 after all. And Thanos was somewhat harmed by it.

 

[OwenVaunman]

I actually agree but in my personal opinion mark 6 should be 8-A level, Loki no sold bullets, and took a massive beating from the Hulk, not to mention he has to be comparable to other Asgardians which should all be vastly above humans.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Wasn’t the only low end for Loki in his show like that one fight with the Walmart guy? And even then you could probably argue he was holding back since he didn’t use his magic or knives(which he used immediately agianst sylphie and bordline bullied her

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Loki really got nerfed over the years huh. I'm glad What if paid respect to him.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I guess it's because the snap is far lower than any other Tier 6 feat that Thanos scales to? It's only very barely above baseline Tier 6 after all. And Thanos was somewhat harmed by it.

How is the snap baseline tier 6?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

How is the snap baseline tier 6?

The snap is 5 gigatons. That's where Thanos' 6-C comes from. I also stated barely above baseline

 

[Dalesean027]

Baseline is 4.3 gigatons thanos scales above baseline

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

The snap is 5 gigatons. That's where Thanos' 6-C comes from. I also stated barely above baseline

We’re did the 5 gigaton stuff come from exactly?

 

[Dalesean027]

We’re did the 5 gigaton stuff come from exactly?

The IW snap's energy release was reported to be 5 gigatons in endgame

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It doesn't even have a scan. I asked for it long ago, but no one gave it. Same with Dr Strange viewing Ultron as a non threat

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

The IW snap's energy release was reported to be 5 gigatons in endgame

Where? Idk remember anyone saying that. The closes I remember is tony say it could light up a continent, which I feel like would be higher then island lvl

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

It doesn't even have a scan. I asked for it long ago, but no one gave it. Same with Dr Strange viewing Ultron as a non threat

If that’s the case then could we not get thanos to contintal?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Why continental?

 

[Dalesean027]

Where? Idk remember anyone saying that. The closes I remember is tony say it could light up a continent, which I feel like would be higher then island lvl

it was listed on a screen on rocket racoons explanation of the second snap in the beginning of endgame I believe though I could be wrong

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

it was listed on a screen on rocket racoons explanation of the second snap in the beginning of endgame I believe though I could be wrong

Yeah from what I remember that’s where it showed up

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Why continental?

Because why not, I mean there are already some Continental or country lvl feats and scaling

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

it was listed on a screen on rocket racoons explanation of the second snap in the beginning of endgame I believe though I could be wrong

Ok let me look real quick

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Because why not

I don't that's a good argument. Plus we still have consistency to take into account. I'll copy paste the major god tier feats from that big MCU CRT

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Main CRT is here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-age-of-crt.109498/ But here's the copy paste

Top Tiers​

Tier 7 or above

• Eson the Searcher parts clouds (88.32 tenatons, Small Star level+) *note: blatant outlier
• The Power Stone destroys a planet's surface (5.23 ninatons, Large Planet level) *note: only scales to Power Stone users
• Eson the Searcher tanks a Power Stone blast (849.51 teratons, Continent level)
• Ego's Expansion (467.68 teratons, Large Country level+)
• Ego creates planetary storms (164.55 gigatons, Large Island level)
• Ego creates planetary storms (41.86 gigatons, Island level)

High Tiers​

• Odin turns his wife into stars (250.3 Foe, Solar System level) *note: blatant outlier
• The Bifrost potentially destroying Jotunheim (179.56 teratons, Large Country level) *note: likely doesn't scale to anyone
• The Casket of Ancient Winters is said to be able to cause an ice age (49.24 teratons, Country-level) *note: likely outlier
• Surtur parts clouds (1.29 gigatons, Large Mountain level)
• Surtur burns Asgard (31.22 megatons, City level)
• The Casket of Ancient Winter freezes a town (330 kilotons, Large Town level)

Low-High Tiers​

• Thanos crushes the Tesseract (208.63 teratons, Large Country level) *note: outlier

High-Mid Tiers​

Tier 7 or above

• Iron Man tanks meteor (72.06 gigatons, Island level+) *note: cal will explain why this feat is valid in his upcoming MCU CRT
• Thor creates a storm in the Battle of Earth (3.77 gigatons, Large Mountain level+)
• Thor creates a storm in the Battle of Wakanda (9.64 megatons, City level)
• Thor moves the rings of Nidavellir (2.08 megatons, Small City level)
• Thor destroys the Outrider ships (566.39 kilotons, Large Town level+)
• Hulk staggers Surtur (233.83 kilotons, Large Town level)
• Thor covers Asgard in a storm (227.41 kilotons, Large Town level)

Mid Tiers​

Tier 7 or above

• Thor sucks in stars (206.85 tenatons, Star level) *blatant outlier
• Thor destroys Sokovia (463.85 megatons, Mountain level) *note: cal will explain why this feat is valid in his upcoming MCU CRT
• Thor and Hulk compared to 30 megaton nukes (30 megatons, City level)
• Thor creates a storm when trying to capture Loki (9.64 megatons, City level) *note: Thor was weakened by dark energy in the first Avengers movie
• Thor tanks the destruction of Sokovia (231.87 kilotons, Large Town level)
• Survived the shockwave of him hitting Captain America's shield, which destroyed everything in a mile (110.72 kilotons, Large Town level) * note: Thor was weakened due to teleportation by dark energy at this point

MCU actually got some Tier 4 shit lmao

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

it was listed on a screen on rocket racoons explanation of the second snap in the beginning of endgame I believe though I could be wrong

I found it but the numbers seemed to still be going up plus I kinda doubt 5 gigatons would be considered “ridiculous cosmic proportions”

 

[Dalesean027]

Main CRT is here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-age-of-crt.109498/ But here's the copy paste


MCU actually got some Tier 4 shit lmao

ESON UPGRADES HELLOOO????? YES

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Because why not, I mean there are already some Continental or country lvl feats and scaling

Hum what are the continental feats again?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Main CRT is here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-age-of-crt.109498/ But here's the copy paste


MCU actually got some Tier 4 shit lmao

I’m surprised there wasn’t a calc for the casket keeping Jouhtnihem from slowly crumbling into nothing

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Hum what are the continental feats again?

Thanos crushing the tesseract, the casket of winters plunging the earth into a new ice age, the snap(arguably) with the “light the contintant up” statement

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So unfortunately the MCU could be tier 4...but no. Shit

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

So unfortunately the MCU could be tier 4...but no. Shit

It probably can when the celestials

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

So unfortunately the MCU could be tier 4...but no. Shit

I mean Tier 4 being an outlier is understandable tbh. But goddamn where is my Tier 6 MCU Iron man aeuegehheghhe

 

[Dalesean027]

Lol we're definitely getting tier 4 and tier 3 celestials so Eson's might not end up being an outlier

 

[Dalesean027]

these guys are dwarfing stars and making galaxies I can't wait to see the extended scenes in the movie

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also, tbh, the surge of the snap kinda look High 6-A from the monitors and look much higher than 6-C, but I'm probably wrong lol

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Tbh it simply looks like he's in front of a galaxy and not exactly dwarfing it but I hope we get tier 4 stuff at least with them, it's entirely possible we would get that

 

[Dalesean027]

Tbh it simply looks like he's in front of a galaxy and not exactly dwarfing it

Definitely bigger than a galaxy in this visual and I meant dwarfing stars in the first

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Definitely bigger than a galaxy in this visual and I meant dwarfing stars in the first

Wasn’t he still in the middle of making the galaxy though?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Hope this is the case and not a visual illusion of sort. I mean, they're friggin' Celestials, they SHOULD be of cosmic proportions

Also, I know it's too early and we'll have to wiat for the movie but I hope the Eternals people will scale to the strongest guys like Thanos, like with a statement that they could have defeated him on their own or something

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also, tbh, the surge of the snap kinda look High 6-A from the monitors and look much higher than 6-C, but I'm probably wrong lol

I mean the number was still going up even when rocket cut to a different screen

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Hope this is the case and not a visual illusion of sort. I mean, they're friggin' Celestials, they SHOULD be of cosmic proportions

Also, I know it's too early and we'll have to wiat for the movie but I hope the Eternals people will scale to the strongest guys like Thanos, like with a statement that they could have defeated him on their own or something

I kinda what the opposite of that lol, more scaling for the mad titan

 

[Dalesean027]

Wasn’t he still in the middle of making the galaxy though?

Yep this is true but we can definitely agree at least tier 4 until the movie is official out and we can see the rest

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I hope the IG will get some kinda actual AP rating instead of Unknown. Although I guess Unknown is somewhat fitting as the stones are more hax than AP, but still.