MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[Colonel_Krukov]

Because Tony builds Rhodes' suits. It would make sense he'd give him the best armour he could for survivability, bar the nanotech. It doesn't make sense he'd leave him with outdated technology.

Currently we have him being 7-B in Endgame, scaling to the Hulkbuster 1.0, which was very outdated by that point.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Do we have statements for these? I feel we did place a statement about that

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I'm not sure

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I think AnonymousBlank posted something about that a while back. I'll just wait for him

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I think it was something like:

• War Machine mk1 = Iron Man mk2
• WM mk2 = IM mk 42 (IM3)
• WM mk3 = IM mk 46 (Civil War)
• WM mk 4 = Hulkbuster 1.0
• WM mk 5 and 6 = Hulkbuster 2.0

Iirc

War Machine MK 1 ~ Iron Man MK 2 which fought Iron Man MK 4.

War Machine MK 1 was able to keep up with the Iron Man MK 6.

War Machine MK 2/Iron Patriot was keeping up and capable of easily shooting down Ultron Sentries.

War Machine MK 3 should be comparable to Iron Man's Civil War suits.

War Machine MK 4 could take a hit from Cull Obsidian and could still function after getting crushed by Thanos, and should scale above the WM MK 3.

We don't see a lot of the War Machine MK 5 during Endgame but it should be fairly advance (Tony, Banner, & Rocket could have had a hand in building it)

The War Machine MK 6 was the one capable of atmospheric reentry and traveling through the Quantum Realm but got badly damaged by Thanos missile barrage on Avengers HQ.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I remember someone posting a statement of the Mark 4 being above the Hulkbuster but below the Mark 50. I don't really see why Mark 5 and 6 would scale to At most 6-C.

The keys should probably look like.

Tier: 8-C | 8-A | At most 6-C

Attack Potency: Building level+ (Was able to contend with the Mark 4) | Multi-City Block level (The mark 2 was built after Tony built his Mark 6, and so the mark 2 should be comparable it. The Mark 3 can harm Giant Man, which could tank attacks from the likes of the Mark 46) | At most Island level (The Mark 4 is stated be more advanced than most of Tony's suits bar the Mark 50, meaning it should superior to the second iteration of the HulkBuster)

Key: Mark 1 | Mark 2 to 3 | Mark 4 to 6

8-A is there because watch as I move iron Man to the glorious 8-A tier >:]

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

That still looks incredibly nerfed to me.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Why?

Also I realized Mark 2 WM was built after Mark 6's creation. Seems weird that Tony would make something vastly lower than Mark 6.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

There's the statement posted earlier saying Mark 4 has Stark's best upgrades, barring nanotech, I think

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Adjusted it.

 

[chosen]

The Mark 4 is stated be more advanced than most of Tony's suits bar the Mark 50

Wouldn't taht put him above hulkbuster 2.0 which is consistent with tanking cull hammer?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Wouldn't taht put him above hulkbuster 2.0 which is consistent with tanking cull hammer?

Forgot about the HulkBuster 2.0 Oof

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Because it's weird that Rhodey's suit in Infinity War is below the Hulkbuster 1.0 which was made ages prior and his Endgame suit made years later is worse than the Hulkbuster 2.0

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Because it's weird that Rhodey's suit in Infinity War is below the Hulkbuster 1.0 which was made ages prior and his Endgame suit made years later is worse than the Hulkbuster 2.0

Except at first I placed his IW suit above the hulkbuster tho? That's why WM was 7-B+

 

[Lonkitt]

I remember someone posting a statement of the Mark 4 being above the Hulkbuster but below the Mark 50. I don't really see why Mark 5 and 6 would scale to At most 6-C.

The keys should probably look like.

Tier: 8-C | 8-A | At most 6-C

Attack Potency: Building level+ (Was able to contend with the Mark 4) | Multi-City Block level (The mark 2 was built after Tony built his Mark 6, and so the mark 2 should be comparable it. The Mark 3 can harm Giant Man, which could tank attacks from the likes of the Mark 46) | At most Island level (The Mark 4 is stated be more advanced than most of Tony's suits bar the Mark 50, meaning it should superior to the second iteration of the HulkBuster)

Key: Mark 1 | Mark 2 to 3 | Mark 4 to 6

8-A is there because watch as I move iron Man to the glorious 8-A tier >:]

8-A for Mark 2

Hold on is that legit now?

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Except at first I placed his IW suit above the hulkbuster tho? That's why WM was 7-B+

Ah, alright then.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Hold on is that legit now?

It will be soon

 

[Lonkitt]

I'd be interested in how that'd affect the scaling chain potentially

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Nothing much changes really. Just everyone who scales to Iron Man becomes 8-A

 

[chosen]

I'd be interested in how that'd affect the scaling chain potentially

Since cap shield pierced far stronger character and bucky bionic scales above mk 6
Mk 6 above loki will be intereseting

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Loki tanking it is an Outlier.

Jokes aside tho, Cap's shield is kinda inconsistent when it comes to his shield throwing. We see several characters of different strength levels either surviving or tanking it.

 

[chosen]

Loki tanking it is an Outlier.

Jokes aside tho, Cap's shield is kinda inconsistent when it comes to his shield throwing. We see several characters of different strength levels either surviving or tanking it.

Meh them surviving it might be cuz cap would hold back though i don't remember anyone tanking it that is below cw stark

 

[SupremeNiva]

At most Island level (The Mark 4 is stated be more advanced than most of Tony's suits bar the Mark 50, meaning it should superior to the second iteration of the HulkBuster

Would this upgrade Tony too? I mean it's pretty sad it's pretty sad if the armor he built for his friend is stronger than his own armor.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Would this upgrade Tony too? I mean it's pretty sad it's pretty sad if the armor he built for his friend is stronger than his own armor.

Isn't he already 6-C during Endgame

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

All High 7-As will be At most 6-C

 

[SupremeNiva]

Isn't he already 6-C during Endgame

Nah, he's still H7-A for some reason

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Time to upgrade him from High 7-A....

 

[chosen]

I Think Tony only large Mountain+ since was kinda slapping Tony albeit Tony was holding his own and make his bleed

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Nah, he's still H7-A for some reason

Because the CRT hasn't come yet

 

[SupremeNiva]

All High 7-As will be At most 6-C

6-C Ant-Man, this mean he can destroy Thanos butt now yay

 

[chosen]

Plus endgame Thor accidently ko stark who got bodied by base thanos

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Plus endgame Thor accidently ko stark who got bodied by base thanos

Tbf, that was Mjolnir, which we kinda put above Thor in stats as of now.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Nah, he's still H7-A for some reason

Because you're using what's currently on the Profiles

All High 7-As will be At most 6-C

This is the potential CRT

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Maybe his Endgame armour should be "At most 6-C"?

 

[chosen]

6-C Ant-Man, this mean he can destroy Thanos butt now yay

I mean giant man kinda treated cull as litterally an bug so him above base thanos isn't surprising
Thanos would also still beat him cuz of immense speed advantage

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Plus endgame Thor accidently ko stark who got bodied by base thanos

Tony was technically an old man by Endgame

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Maybe his Endgame armour should be "At most 6-C"?

Already is.

I have the sandbox here. It's just more or less improving Tony's page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Emirp_sumitpo/sandbox#Mark_85_(Endgame)

 

[SupremeNiva]

Because you're using what's currently on the Profiles

Yeah, iirc 6-C iron man was rejected not too long ago, we can re argue about it now ig.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yeah, iirc 6-C iron man was rejected not too long ago, we can re argue about it now ig.

6-C Iron Man was rejected because the calc for it was debunked I'm pretty sure

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Would keeping his High 7-A IW stats and having a separate key for mk 85 work? Or just have it at 6-C?