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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Midgard Serpent will likely mean that Thor will join Valhalla, at least it's likely from the mythos and dependent on Hemsworth wanting to play the character
 
I kinda want Mangog as soon as possible because Mangog is very closely tied with Odin and the further and further we get away from his death, the weirder and weirder a Mangog appearance would feel.
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
Finished it. I'd say it's better than what I expected right before the movie as I kinda lost all my hype with the extended time and lukewarm reviews, after all it is a Marvel movie and even the worst movies they make have a certain level of quality, but it's far from being the movie I expected like a year or two ago, and it could have been more. It's a decent spy movie by normal standards but you would expect more from Marvel, especially with regards to the Black Widow character.

About Taskmaster, I was like, meh, the character was kind of boring and just there as an assassin, there wasn't anything that justified gender swapping but she's kinda just there and failed to make me care.
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It would have been a better movie overall if it fully embraced its spy atmosphere, but it relapsed back into being formulaic, sacrificing such for more awkward tone-deaf comedic moments.
 
Cropfist said:
It would have been a better movie overall if it fully embraced its spy atmosphere, but it relapsed back into being formulaic, sacrificing such for more awkward tone-deaf comedic moments.
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I understand what you're saying but I can't agree that all of the comedic moments were in bad taste, there were some genuinely good moments
 
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I understand what you're saying but I can't agree the all of the comedic moments were in bas taste, there were some genuinely good moments
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Explain what part of "haha here's guardian being a boastful idiot for 10 minutes" fits into the "we need to stop this guy who is making children murder each other" plot.
 
Cropfist said:
Explain what part of "haha here's guardian being a boastful idiot for 10 minutes" fits into the "we need to stop this guy who is making children murder each other" plot.
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Explain the part where I said every comedic moment was fine and didn't take away from what's on screen, you can honestly chill out with the attitude you're already reaching enough as is so I'd appreciate doing without the extra amount of pissiness in your tone. I said from the start to be chill about your opinions on the movie because we'll all respect them either way and people will have varying opinions, you literally have no place to be upset at anything and especially no place making assumptions and taking it to 100 off of a simple comment.
 
Oh and there's one thing I want to point out real quick. We're pretty much getting non-stop MCU content for the rest of the year. The longest wait between two pieces of MCU content this year as it stands right now is a few days over a month.

After Loki ends, we're getting What If on August 11th, Shang Chi on September 3rd, Eternals on November 5th, and No Way Home on December 17th. Additionally we also have Hawkeye and Ms. Marvel which are set for release at some point in 2021.

We're set for 2021 lmao. Sit back and relax.
 
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Ah yes. Although, based on what you mentioned observing, I do wonder if it doesn't have some aging/time manipulation effect
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We have statements in the finale that Alioth also consumes space and time, Alioth once again is confirmed to have consumed other realities and thus should be scaled as such
 
Sooooo damn that finale
No bohner moments here fellas🙏🙏🙏Immortus and Kang who would've thought
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Things just got a lot more interesting...

While we all process everything that happened, I guess now we can try to figure out profiles that can be added.

New feats for this episode: Nothing notable for the main characters that stick out, though we do get a statement that Alioth consumes the time and space of realities. He Who Remains was a fun surprise this episode, but I'm not sure how much he'd warrant a profile, considering he has no combat feats. A theoretical profile for him would have a lot of unknown ratings I'm sure his variant will be a different story in the future though.

Overall, I'm assuming the characters from the series that warrant profiles would include:

Loki (Variant L1130) (Equal to main timeline Loki but should have different equipment and enchantment abilities after episode 5)

Sylvie

Probably Classic Loki, Alligator Loki, and Kid Loki, who should all scale to 8-A

Alioth

The TVA probably deserves a civilization page. I'm not sure on named characters associated with the TVA, who should all have interesting equipment but overall have limited combat feats (Ravonna Renslayer did manage to briefly fight Sylvie in episode 4, and even appeared to nearly physically overpower her at one point, but failed to do any real damage to Sylvie with a baton strike to the face, and mostly relied on trying to prune her from the timeline, whereas Sylvie knocked out Renslayer with a single strike, making potential scaling a bit confusing) Hunters/Minutemen are capable of fighting Loki variants at least.

Now to wait until next month and see what kind of potential profiles we can get for What If...?
 
I uh... actually didn't really enjoy this episode... I think there's just too many problems, and it looks like they're tryna introduce the multiverse this way when that makes no sense because other universes should exist before this, i.e. 616, 1610, and so on. I did not like the main plot, how the characters were handled, the twist, resolution, or the Loki/Loki romance. With any luck "What If...?" will be better albeit that might not make sense but I hope it will be more enjoyable at the very least. Also after Black Widow I'm really excited for the Hawkeye show as long as they don't do to him what was done to Loki in this one.
 
It seems like many people are interpreting the ending as a multiverse appearing? At least what I understood, maybe I'm wrong, is that He Who Remains has won once again, as the TVA is back again running, meaning that a new version of him has once again won the multiversal war, recreated the TVA and the Sacred Timeline is going to be back again once the TVA sorts things out. At least that's my interpretation.
 
That could be, and that'd be a better ending imo however I feel like the multiverse has been completely and entirely ignored in this series, like alternate timelines are just one kind of separate universe, and if that's what they're going with how the hell can we get an alligator Loki or a female Loki like that, I don't know I thought I'd lowered my expectations but even then it didn't meet up with it, and I enjoyed the ending of WandaVision, that was good to me.
 
I really liked the final with the twist of a he who remains basically running everything. But that being said the show over all for me wasn’t really slapping that much. I don’t really like how they just deconstructed Loki and dumped everything on him in like the first ep, I wanted to see some more stuff from this loki who was fresh of his defeat at the hands of the avengers and was still a little evil and played more into his title as god of mischief. I was hoping for this loki to be constantly scheming trying to get what he wants(and achieving most of the things he wants). Instead he kinda just became a joke, he had his moments here and there but there wasn’t a lot. I feel like they should have gradually developed his character across the show instead of mostly in one sitting. But that’s just me. For now I’ll put falcon and the winter soilder above this
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
It seems like many people are interpreting the ending as a multiverse appearing? At least what I understood, maybe I'm wrong, is that He Who Remains has won once again, as the TVA is back again running, meaning that a new version of him has once again won the multiversal war, recreated the TVA and the Sacred Timeline is going to be back again once the TVA sorts things out. At least that's my interpretation.
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Not really, he who remains whole purpose was to stop the sacried timeline from branching all he really did was prove that he was right, also the new version of he who remains probably didn’t win the war since the tva is dealing with way more branches on the regular from what we usually see them dealing with hence the conversation with b-13 and möbius
 
But He Who Remains said something along the lines of "if you kill me, there will be another infinite versions of me, and eventually I end up back here", indicating that in the end one version of him is destined to create the TVA, which is why when Sylvie kills him, the TVA is still existing. There's also an ominous final shot at a statue of what looks to be He Who Remains? At least my interpretation of the the timelines branching was that the newly reborn TVA dealing with this threat, and once they do so, returning to where we started in episode 1.
 
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Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
But He Who Remains said something along the lines of "if you kill me, there will be another infinite versions of me, and eventually I end up back here", indicating that in the end one version of him is destined to create the TVA, which is why when Sylvie kills him, the TVA is still existing. There's also an ominous final shot at a statue of what looks to be He Who Remains? At least my interpretation of the the timelines branching was that the newly reborn TVA dealing with this threat, and once they do so, returning to where we started in episode 1.
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true but this variant of he who remains seems to be more evil considering his kang suit
 
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