DivineAura44
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I thought it was said his fire ignores conventional durability? If not rescind my vote and lemme review, don't want the thread to come to an end because of a misunderstanding.
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King vs Sanji Rematch 2
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DaMonkeMan
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Tbf Lunarians are pretty resistant to flames inside and out, Sanji even fought one and couldn't hurt them with DJ.
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Kenbun, speed, endurance, stamina, heat, heat resistance, regeneration, skill, intelligence, tactical ability.
He can pair his kenbun and speed in order to avoid any hit that would deal major damage such as the Self Destruct.
If he were to take those hits, his endurance, stamina, and regeneration would kick in, allowing him to keep going despite taking heavy damage
His heat and heat resistance would allow him to avoid getting burned by King's heat-based attacks and would allow him to negate King's durability with Ifrit
His skill and tactical ability would allow him to quickly find out King's Lunarian Gimmick, allowing him to exploit him and hit King when and where it hurts.
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They do.
DaMonkeMan
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Ah, I forgot about his regen.
Though I don't think it'd work if King sliced him with Tempura Udon.
Though I don't think it'd work if King sliced him with Tempura Udon.
DivineAura44
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And like I said, I think his flame scaling overpowers that.
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It would turn into a blunt force hit due to Sanji's body, denting him rather than cutting him
Which Sanji can regenerate from.
Mind-you, this is all assuming these hit Sanji.
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Eh, it could.
Thank you.
But could he force King to lower the flames?
Godernet
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Sanji: hotter flames + better flame resistance, intelligence(tactical and deductive), endurance and stamina feats, debatably speed, obv haki, regen,
King: Likely better Arm Haki, better LS, Lunarian Durability, higher AP.
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With Sanji's speed, 100%
Don't forget, this is an in-character match. King is not like the Seraphim who just don't lower the flames.
When King sees that he's outmatched in speed, he would lower his flames to try to catch up, which would only benefit Sanji.
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It should also be noted that this was stated about Sanji in the One Piece Yellow Databook:
"When he sees that his opponent is "tough," he immediately thinks of a countermeasure with a flash of inspiration and immediately executes it. One moment of inspiration, two moments of brilliance, and then it's immediate!"
Sanji exploiting King's weakness is much more likely than King overcoming Sanji's endurance, stamina, and regen without having access to his normal wincons in Heat and Durability (Ifrit heat outscales King's heat resistance)
"When he sees that his opponent is "tough," he immediately thinks of a countermeasure with a flash of inspiration and immediately executes it. One moment of inspiration, two moments of brilliance, and then it's immediate!"
Sanji exploiting King's weakness is much more likely than King overcoming Sanji's endurance, stamina, and regen without having access to his normal wincons in Heat and Durability (Ifrit heat outscales King's heat resistance)
DaMonkeMan
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Not really, as King's AP is high enough to actually cut him.
DaMonkeMan
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Can't King just block IJ with his sword or use Armament?
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I disagree, at least not with IDPS and his sword.
Ifrit's heat still scales above those.
DaMonkeMan
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Not really.
Hell, even Akainu's magma was blocked by Shanks' sword+Armament.
King should be able to do the same here.
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Shanks isn't King so I don't understand what this comparison is.
Godernet
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we have no idea what Shanks can do so using him isn't a good idea.
he coulda been using sword + arm haki + conq
DaMonkeMan
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Can you not compare Oven and Pedro of all people to King and Sanji?As for King's sword, if he tries to block Ifrit, he may just end up like Pedro:
Pedro doesn't even have Armament iirc.
This isn't like King using his superior Armament + sword to block IJ.
Okay.
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You're missing the point.
Because of Ifrit Jambe's fire, the heat would just go through the sword to King.
DaMonkeMan
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Godernet
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he does have Haki tbf. but yeah comparing him to King is a much different story.
although I do agree a sword and better Buso won't protect him from IJ. His Haki would have to be leagues better than Sanji's which it's not.
DaMonkeMan
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Pedro has 0 Haki feats. He's not relevant.
Though considering King already has a high heat resistance plus superior Armament he should be able to nullify IJ.
Though considering King already has a high heat resistance plus superior Armament he should be able to nullify IJ.
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Jinbe, who has higher Busō layers than Sanji, couldn't block out the heat from Prometheus.
Prometheus scales much lower than Sanji's heat with Ifrit, so the haki argument isn't going anywhere.
DaMonkeMan
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Did he use Haki against Prometheus?
Kind of?
I mean, he did burn Rooftop Kidd, Law, and Luffy a little.
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DaMonkeMan
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Okay.
DaMonkeMan
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Shouldn't we hold Grace until Emin votes?
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No. whether he votes for Sanji or King, Grace would still be in effect.
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Nvm, 1 more vote for King and Grace is cancelled
Eminiteable
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Probably Sanji
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Reasons?
Eminiteable
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Besides the stuff I disagreed with in my previous posts, for kachon's reasons.
DaMonkeMan
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Base Kaku and Stussy have no scaling, dude.
Also Sanji's AP < S-Shark's dura lol
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