ZeNoviceArtist
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Is Giorno gay?
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (2024–2025) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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PhilLemon02
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I'm just wondering how they're going to cover Joker's resistance to causality manip without spoiling the best twist in a 100+ Japanese videogame that the majority of Death Battle's viewership has not watched. Because let's just say I find it hard to believe that GER's causality manip outscales when
Azathoth/Maruki's ability to rewrite the causality of all of existence continuously, it isn't a one and done thing, Joker had to consent to having his willpower stolen (Maruki Palace deadline bad ending) and consent to having his causality and reality manipulated (So Happy World/Paradise/Maruki ending), this is all made evident within the story of the game explicitly even if you don't buy Outer Persona he still resists a REALITY WIDE continuous causality manipulation, they will have to spoil the entire game's story for that though
PhilLemon02
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Likely as gay as Joker
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How does this part work?
Isn't there some continuity snare associated with this part?
What specifically makes this Causality Manipulation?
Sorry if I'm being annoying or asking dumb questions. Stuff like Causality Manipulation, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation are often shamefully hard for me to grasp.
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1. Simple, if Joker literally does anything he can instantly kill Giorno but RtZ can revert to it before Joker throws the attack stopping Giorno's death.
2. Continuity snare?
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Perhaps I should have asked why.
Or what are the mechanics? Just, RtZ can rewind any action someone else does unto Giorno, but not those not done onto him?
I recall seeing discussion in this thread about the Def to 0 thing being from a variant of Giorno in a defunct mobile game or something, which DB might not take as canon as such?
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1. yes
2. I said reverting his will not his defense he is capable of reverting will to 0 canonically.
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Ryu
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Guts
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The piano gonna be crazy as his themeTherewolf Media is on the music for joker vs giorno
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Ah, thanks for clarifying! Sorry for my stupidity.1. yes
2. I said reverting his will not his defense he is capable of reverting will to 0 canonically.
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I feel like the phrase saying "whoever is hit by this ability" will count from the first punch landed for death loop and all1. yes
2. I said reverting his will not his defense he is capable of reverting will to 0 canonically.
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I have done your mother
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Ngl i forgot Guts, he really wouldnt get a W to Nightmare of all people
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You had the insane lore of tekken, then the insane lore of street fighter, now...the insane lore of mortal kombat
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What does turning a person's "will" to zero even mean in this context? Will people affected by this lose all desire to fight and be left comatose? Isnt that just empathic manipulation? If Jonkler resists that it's gg then right1. yes
2. I said reverting his will not his defense he is capable of reverting will to 0 canonically.
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Noticed how characters in fiction push themselves to the limit, especially anime where hero is beyond messed up by a villain but still have will to keep going?
GER says "we dont do that here" and its going to 0
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He granted all these wishes though, except those even his power were unable to
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Spamton and Jevil now stomping most (if not all) their MUs now.
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Deltarune: [[BIG UPGRADES]]
Hello everyone. After being done with Undertale, I'll also do two things with Deltarune (or more, idk), because I found a pretty cool thing. Supersonic? More like Relativistic! Ok so... This calculation proves that in the Rouxls Kaard fight in Chapter 2, the latter uses an actual laser attack...
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Doesn't Spamton have Fawful as his most popular MU? I don't think he wins that oneSpamton and Jevil now stomping most (if not all) their MUs now.
Deltarune: [[BIG UPGRADES]]
Hello everyone. After being done with Undertale, I'll also do two things with Deltarune (or more, idk), because I found a pretty cool thing. Supersonic? More like Relativistic! Ok so... This calculation proves that in the Rouxls Kaard fight in Chapter 2, the latter uses an actual laser attack...
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I said most
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Unrelated: If Fawful vs Spamton becomes a real thing - cast Logan of Fawful's Minion and Alex Rochon or we riot.
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Alex became genuinely my Spamton voice, I literally cannot read his lines without that anymore.
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GT hasn't been mainline canon for a good while now you know
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True, true.
But why is Shenron favoring those who use its powers more often? Aren't the balls supposed to be scattered so they're not used so frivolously?
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Security reasons, so that some random ass villain doesn't get three wishes in a row
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It would make sense not to allow those with clear ill intention get more then 1
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Man, I remember watching alot of his vids as a kid
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Dende may have altered Shenron more.
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I do understand this argument, but my main concern with using it in this fight is that even after two GER barrages Diavolo could still summon his stand and tried to fight back. Considering that and the fact that Joker was about to out-will gods of Control and other higher-level stuff I think it's a bit of a no-limits fallacy to say it can Will-to-Zero anything when it hasn't even shown any consistency with its written description.
It's kind of a fault of having only one showing against a single opponent, even as impressive as a showing it was.
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TF2 sfm be peak creativity when at there best
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Buddy all jojo villains get ended by punch rush, thats not an argument against a literal bio from manga
It says there will and actions go to zero, a barrage aint proof its not working, also if joker is resisting this, i wanna see proof of that, not that "oh he resists all haxes ever", its not nlf either, reality warping was the only thing beating it and thats in non canon stuff
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Just because Giorno has the ability to revert will doesn't mean he used it against Diavolo, from what I recall he hasn't done it canonically the only time he has was in the non-canon Jorge Joestar novel against Pucci (at least that's what I've heard I cant find the scan unfortunately).
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