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DBS characters are stronger than GT characters by a lot (Super Saiyan 4 < Super Saiyan Blue). But as we all know, GT story takes place after the end of DBZ, that happens after DBS.
How powerful would be GT characters if we scaled them to DBS? Who could Goku SS4 defeat, for example?
https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-true-canon-of-dragon-ball.118684/
You should understand that Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z and Super is owned by Toei and they were never stated to be canon in the Tokyo Skytree + Viz North America Tour
The Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Z Kai...
Dragon Ball canon (正史, seishi; Literally meaning "official history")[1] was first officially defined during the Tokyo Skytree + Viz North America Tour in an exhibit called the History of Dragon Ball. It was later reaffirmed in December 2018 in Weekly Shōnen Jump.
As of the start of this tour on...
base black vs full powered baby is used
speed is equal both are 10km away
incapacitation counts
black starts in base but can go ssjr anytime
Black: 8
Baby: 1
Incon:
... Super Saiyan Rosé in the Anime is just regular Super Saiyan
So... This problem should be fixed like this: Can potentially transform into a Super Saiyan/Super Saiyan Rose, increasing his capabilities drastically
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Vegito
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gogeta_(Toei)#Dragon_Ball_GT
SSB Vegito vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta
speed equalized
whooooooooooooooooooooo would win
1. Space Time Continuum:
"In physics, spacetime is any mathematical model that fuses the three dimensions of space and the one dimension of time into a single four-dimensional continuum."
The Dragon Ball Universe is split into two "worlds". The Living World and the World Beyond. The Living...
Goku VS Bardock
* Standard Battle Assumptions (Low 4-C versions are used. Speed is equalized. Battle takes place on Namek)
* Both are in their Super Saiyan forms
* Victory can be achieved by any means
* Father:
* Son: 11 (Brak, Orange, Lord_JJJ, thetechmaster36, sanicspood, Coolboy6...
Baby (Dragon Ball GT)
God Zamasu (Chou)
Both are 3-B
fight takes place on namek
Baby is in strongest form 2
win by any means, death, K.O., or incapacitation.
who will win?
so this thread was about separating the toei z Goku page from movie scaling but that would be redundant cuz separating it would just have 2 versions of essentially the same Goku with a few new stuff, but people suggested to just drop movie scaling and have just anime z Goku scaling just on the...
Well, I did it. Hopefully this is the final nail in the coffin.
Characters this would affect
AP
All the 3-As and low 2-Cs would be 2-C
Zeno would be low 1-C
All the 2-As would be low 1-C
Speed
Everyone who scales above base BoG Goku would be MFTL+, possibly infinite.
All 2-As would be MFTL+...
Both start in base and have access to all their forms, speed equalized, fight takes place in The tournament of power arena
GT:
Manga: 7
Inspired by this video
Let's go over Lifting Strength from the Dragon Ball anime. This should be quick.
BoZ / Dead Zone Goku scales above Piccolo, who is Class G (4.17686978e+13 kg). Fun Fact: This is actually Class T (>1e+12 kg).
Vegeta Saga / World's Strongest Goku scales above an enraged Gohan from Dead Zone who...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hero_(Ultimate_Tenkaichi)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gogeta_(Toei)
both are at there peak (3-a)
gogeta: 7
hero: 3
inconclusive:
yea this is gonna be short all I'm gonna say is that the toei goku page should be separated to z anime goku and another page for movie goku.
it's pretty known that the movies are their own separate continuity so I don't really think it should be put with z anime since they actually do have...
This revision would focus on two small things:
1. This re-calculation of King Vegeta destroying planets feat got evaluated and the high end was accepted
This affects all Toeiverse DB High 5-As and the current calc would need to be linked to the profiles instead of Amelia's old calculation...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Biolizard#Finalhazard_
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Toei)
goku is a full power super saiyan 2
fight takes place on earth only (not in space)
speed is equal
biolizard:
goku: 7
incon:
When semi perfect cell turned into perfect cell he accidentally shook the universe. Now you might say shaking=/=destruction and you're right but remember the universe is infinite in size so cell shook a infinite distance.
It was stated by the narrator that cell has a power level of infinite (3D...
Cliff vs Perfect Cell
Cliff is 10.499019 Foe
Perfect Cell is >>> 11.46 Foe
(Cell is at least x1.09153055157 stronger than Cliff, probably higher)
Speed equalized
Match takes place in Cell Games Arena (Daytime)
Oil Kid: 0
Biological Killing Machine: 1
Zeno erases them both: 0
The addition come from this thread. The scaling was rejected but the abilities seem fine
Abilities : Damage Boost (Capable of concentrating ki into a specific point , typically the hands or fingers or exhaust their life force in order to increase the power of his/her attacks) Ex Kamehameha...
Raditz Saga Toei Goku VS Majestia
* Standard Battle Assumptions (5-A versions are used. Speed is equalized. Battle takes place in the Cell Games Arena)
* Victory can be achieved by any means
* Goku: 8 (Planck69, sanicspood, Shmooply, Havok, Oleggator, LightReinh12345, Tots_Real, Oleggator)
*...
OMG BRUH WTF DOWNPLAYING DRAGON BALL AGAIN 🤬😡 STUPID WIKI... anyways um goatku is low complex multiversal because in Battle of gods he-he was going to destroy otherworld which is 5D because of this scan from the daizenshuu
The human world can p-perceive the 4th dimensional. Other world is...
Both are 3-C
Battle starts out in the Special Zone
Buu but a demon or something: 8 (CR_Catinho, sanicspood, LightReinh12345, Havok, ZoroNotZolo, Arcker123, Naitodesu, The_Unknown_Warrior1)
Red Luigi: 3 (NotAMarioFan(lol), JJSliderman, GiverOfThePeace)
Inconclusive:
Dr. Eggman VS Dr. Lychee
* Standard Battle Assumptions (4-A versions are used. Speed is equalized)
* Both get 3 days of preperation. Eggman isn't allowed to use anything higher than 4-A
* Victory can be achieved in any way
* I HATE THIS HEDGEHOG!!!: 7 (Oleggator, sanicspood...