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PREMISE: I will use debate my last resort arguement today & prove SS4 Goku is 7D Arguement:
Argument 1: The Universe is as you know. Garlic & Goku have demonstrated 4D aspects of power via creation & devastation of 4D. Both Goku & Buuhan demonstrated as well such as Boohan's Vice Shout potency...
I have a problem with scaling resistances and hax from Xeno Goku to Beat.
Honestly, this needs to stop! Beat does not have Super Saiyan 4 so the following abilities needs to be removed:
Heat Generation and Reactive Evolution
These resistances need to be remove since these were from GT Goku...
Currently she is scaled to Goku, who was upgraded to 3-B. It seems the changes from then wasn't applied to her profile. So she should be upgraded to 3-B.
Because someone edited Beat's tier without a CRT, now we need to solve this problem:
When his profile was made, it only included information from the Victory Mission manga, hence the key for his Saiyan Avatar being named "Victory Mission", and it was 4-A since that's his best feat there.
When...
There are many issues with the current canon system for dragon ball this is rather clear to anyone who's been on this wiki so i'm going to explain my solutions and the reasoning for why certain changes would make sense.
the movies are where i'm starting since it's the most easiest to dissect...
Since this is most likely an stomp, I'll put it on F&G board but can be changed to the VST board if it actually turns out to be fair.
Son Goku from Dragon Ball GT with his Surpassed Limits Super Saiyan 4 Form against Son Goku from Dragon Ball Super. 3-B vs. borderline 2-C. Speed is obviously...
this is Goku at his Buu Arc self and he starts with Super Saiyan. SSJ2 and 3 are restricted.
Bojack starts at his Base but can ascend to Full Power.
Location is the same place where the Z Fighters fought Bojack but no outside interference.
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (GT) vs. Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Black arc).
Speed is unequalized so Gogeta can kinda make up for the AP advantage Goku has.
Fight is in Trunks' timeline Destroyed City.
Gogeta is bloodlusted.
Who is winning this?
Goku:
Gogeta:
Incon: 2 (Roun12, Jo-Smooth,
A long time ago, Xeno Trunks had a page but it was deleted for being too similar. However, recently I have created a blog profile:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zenkaibattery1/Xeno_Trunks_profile
I believe he should have a profile because he is no where near the same as his canon...
Son Goku (Buu Saga) vs. Broly (Movie 10). Both are 4-A.
LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Goku are used.
Location is the same place where Gohan and the Kids fought Broly.
Win via any means. Both In Character.
"KAKAROOOOOOT!"
Goku: 5 (Dante, Zamasu Chan, AwkguyDB, Lord JJJ, UchihaSlayer96
Broly: 3...
BoZ Toei Goku VS Boa Hancock.
Speed equalized.
Fight takes place on a random Dragon Ball archipelago.
Goku - 1 (Planck69)
Hancock - 9 (Eminiteable, UchihaSlayer96, EmperorRorepme, ZackMoon1234, C2 of Omego, Modernmyrmido, Doorinmyhouse, Uniasha, Jimboydejuan12)
Inconclusive - 0
Chamel needs his Demon God image replace with an render. New render image key: Super God Class-up
Hearts needs his Ultimate Godslayer key image replace with an render:
Fu (Dragon Ball) needs a new key for this form:
Super Fu
Super Sonic vs. SSJ Goku (Toei, Cell Games).
Both 4-A and speed is eqialized. Both bloodlusted
Goku:
Sonic: 3 (Gilad Hyperstar, Theuser789, GlaceonGamez471,
GT Goku's 3-A key is about to get downgraded to 3-B+ so I thought why not.
GT Goku with Surpassed Limits Super Saiyan 4 against Chou Vegeta with Super Saiyan Blue Evolution. Speed is equalized and both are 3-B+
Goku:
Vegeta: 2 (XSOULOFCINDERX, UchihaSlayer96
1. Smoke Manipulation for Majin Buu [[1]]
2. Enhanced Sight for Frieza[[2]]
3. Danmaku for God Zamasu (Chou)[[3]]
4. Size Manipulation for Garlic Jr. [[4]]
5. Telekinesis for Jire [[5]] and [[6]] [[7]]
6. Add o to Ki sense for Jire [[8]]
7. Barrier Manipulation for Android 17 (can...
Syn Shenron is Universe Level for thrashing a blind SSJ4 Goku and easily killing Nova Shenron. however, SSJ4 Goku and Nova are rated as Multi Galaxy Level and this Version Of Syn doesn't have any feats that put him on that level, Syn Shenron Should be downgraded to at least 3-B
This was brought up somewhere before but got lost in time. Syn Shenron is rated as universal because of scaling down from Omega Shenron who was going to destroy the universe by his Minus Energy Power Ball.
Although, a problem I have with this is that the universe was not going to be destroyed...
A proper re do of this discussion.
Its tournament of power saga Chou goku and he starts in Completed Super Saiyan Blue. He has access to mastered ultra instinct
It's shadow dragon saga GT goku and he starts in Super Saiyan 4. He has access into his limit broken form.
Speed is equalized.
In...
Beerus absorbed a expolsion:
In this thread, i will be explaining lore behind Beerus's absorption of the expolsion:
Firstly, when Beerus's Orb and Goku's Kamehameha clashed, it created a explosion and Beerus absorbed that explosion to create his Sphere of Destruction...
Yeah, let's see how this goes:
-Post 100 year time skip SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta fuse with the dance technique.
-Since their stats are Unknow, let's assume Base Goku (and by extension Vegeta) at EoGT are equal in power to the SSJ4 Gogeta we all saw in the SD arc. Give them SSJ4 and then Fusion...
Son Goku (Frieza Saga, Toei anime) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Cell Games, manga). Speed is equalized, Goku's 4-B stuff is restricted since this is a High 4-C match.
Son Goku (Dragon Ball Z)
Vegeta's Pride gets torn apart again, owned by someone who's not even a Super Saiyan:
Vegeta finally...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Firestorm808/Official_Dragon_Ball_Continuities
1984 - 1995 Dragon Ball Manga
1986 - 1996 Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z Anime
An adaptation of the Manga by Toei Animation.
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/animation-production/toriyama-contributions/
1997...
He has a quite large scaling above SSJ3 Goku from Anime who is over half Baseline 3-B (as he is 3-C+).
GT Goku > Base Rilldo > Buuhan > Buutenks >> Mystic Gohan >> SSJ3 Gotenks >>>> SSJ Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku (Z) = 3-C+. With Buuhan being over 2x SSJ3 Gotenks and SSJ3 Gotenks being over 2x SSJ...
The stronger Future Gohan vs. Base 13.
This can't be added anyways because Anime Future Gohan doesn't have a profile but I found it interesting anyways.
In the anime continuity the Dragonball Mortal universe is split up into 4 galaxies. These Galaxies are not spiral sized ones like our Milky way, inatead they're implied to be massive. The daizenshuu states that the four Galaxies exist "infinitely" in all the universe.
The Daizenshuu also...
Lol, not a whole lot of major changes, save one but I'll get the appetizers out the way before we delve into the Meat and Potatoes.
DBH:
Demigra just recently added Chain Manipulation into his arsenal of hax (Pulled everyone out from Mechikabura's Black hole technique) see pictures for...
Goku is about to head off to space with Pan and Trunks but senses a massive ki out in the distance and goes to investigate. He ends up seeing Janemba returning through the power of VSBW logic and now they'll fight.
Both at 3-C
Speed Equalized
Goku : 7
Janemba : 1
Pikkon gets resurrected and searches the North Galaxy to test his strength against Goku. However, while following his ki trail, he finds another strange creature travelling the same path. Ledgic has the exact same goal of fighting Goku in mind. They decide it would be best for them to first...