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Ok, so, I guess that is time to get the issues in general with the Tier 5 profiles of legendaries, and a thing for Tier 2 as well.
Tier 5 issues
Now, my biggest issue is current Deoxys' speed rating:
Massively FTL+, possibly Infinite (Despite getting fodderized by Mega Rayquaza in raw power...
Unicron vs Arceus
Unicron wants to consume the entire pokemon world, can he do it?
Arceus's Profile
Unicron's Profile:
incon: 1 vote
Rules
Both 2-A (True Forms for both)
Both Bloodlusted
Win via death. If not possible use other forms like bfr or incap
Both are omnipresent
Can Unicron...
Okay just seeing how Anos Voldigoad is OP and that he's one of the most popular pages on this wiki. I want to see if he can beat arceus or not.
Ano's Profile
Arceus's Profile
Rules:
Both are 2-B (avatar form arceus and True Power for Anos) edit: arceus true form is type 2
Both are...
arceus (the god pokemon)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arceus
vs the truth (FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Truth
speed equalized
this match came in mind because of this. so ye, an omnipotent adaptable reptile vs the god of pokemon
going to change to extended canon if it's a stomp.
Leviathan of the Fourth Bride SCP-682 used.
True Form Arceus used.
Both are 2-A
Speed Equalizzed
(going to find images later)
SCP-682...
Arceus vs Novel Kars
2-B Avatar Arceus vs Kars with all his Stands
Speed Equalized
Battle Music
Cool Llama: 2 (Everything12, GilverTheProtoAngelo)
AIAIAAAAAAAAAAI:
Ness still incons both lol:
Here we go again with another Arceus ability addition as we already didn't had enough threads for that. Basically here is a pretty interesting info I found on True Form Arceus which I'd like to show here. Let's take the Original One again:
In the beginning, there was only a churning turmoil of...
The god of Pokémon enters your verse and seeks to destroy it like he tried to do in the movie
Speed is unequalized
Original Spirit Arceus is used
He has full prior knowledge on the verse
Can your favorite verse defeat the God of Pokémon???
Arceus lands in the homestuck universe. Caliborn sees him and is angry.
Arceus
Caliborn
Rules:
Both are 2-A (True form Arceus vs Masterpiece Caliborn)
Speed is equalized (although this is irrevalent due to omnipresence and immeasurable speed)
both are bloodlusted
Caliborn has all his...
Yep, another one of these, I know. But I wanted this proposal to get its own thread to discuss it in instead of bringing it up in the other hax upgrade threads, as this is sort've new. But also not new at the same time.
Anyway, the proposal is in the title. I think Arceus and the Creation Trio...
Well, since it was agreed that Arceus should have every ability of the verse in this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/regarding-mew-and-arceus.78000/
I will list a good amount of the powers that it does not yet have in its profile but should have: Dream Manipulation (Upscaled from...
This thread was closed before I was able to respond. I do actually largely agree with the changes, though not so much with how it has been applied.
Nigh-Omniscience: This was the only part I couldn't find any real evidence for in the document. Besides Uxie and Arceus, none of the creation or...
So, in this thread it was agreed upon that Arceus has every ability in the verse, upscaling from various Pokémon. But the profile is still missing a few abilities. (There are probably others, but these are the ones I could think of)
Passive Probability Manipulation & Supernatural Luck...
Shouldn't the True Forms of Arceus, the Creation Trio and the Lake Trio have Incorporeality? I mean, the description of their True Forms of this fits that power perfectly:
"Incorporeal (or Non-Corporeal) beings are those who have no true physical form. Though they may have physical avatars or...
Found out that Oryx is even separated from the other Destiny characters, and that the strongest non-smurf 2-B of Destiny is Crota, so.
Both at 2-B, True Form Arceus is used, and speed =.
Arceus:
Crota:
Incon:
It was bound to come but here we are, with a pretty important Pokémon Tier 2 Hax CRT. Since the list to things to add is hella l o n g, I'll put this Google Doc, which I invite you to read really carefully before commenting here.
Also here are the revised profiles, which are also an huge...
Currently the avatars are rated as 2-A because they have some 2-A feats such us creating the Pokémon Cosmology and some Multiversal busting feats and some ***** like that, however while this might be true except there are many issues that People hasn't noticed it yet which would be explained...
we all know this ends in inconclusive as the last 5 times or so but may as well prove a point because I have nothing better to do.
official reminder to keep it cool, this is not worth getting heated over, now if it does get too heated I'll have this thread closed like the mistake it is
Arceus...
Sally has the SoA
Sally is at Low 2-C. Arceus is at 2-B (necessary to mention)
Speed Equalized
Did something change with the profiles to make the previous Low 2-C vs 2-B matchup invalidated?
Absolutely nothing with the match itself (Link here: Hello)
Chipmunk Waifu:
Llama god: 3 (Arceus0x...
Credit to NeoZex6399
“While developing Diamond & Pearl, Giratina originally embodied the idea of an ‘antiworld,’ which is a paradox of Time and Space. It exists in relation to Dialga and Palkia. That’s what I had in mind when I was developing Diamond & Pearl.”
“I was not aware of any of that...
It's about time.
Arceus vs The One
Both 2-A
Pokemon God: 0
Transformers God: 0
SCP-682: 11 (Rikimarox2, theultimate5105, John985, Planck69, Emirp sumitpo, Popted2, Adem_Warlock69, Naitodesu, Cul0r, Ned_the_outer_god, JooCipher)
Arceus vs Gilgamesh (Fate)
both are 2-A and speed is equal
(sorry for big ass images if you're troubled)
votes:
Goat Jesus: 1 (YungManzi)
is that dio:
incon: 10 (Planck69, Rikimarox2, CrimsonStarFallen, Zencha9, Ned_the_Outer_God, Lord_JJJ, The_Wright_Way, StrymULTRA, ProfessorKukui4Life...
Pokedex entry stated, that Arceus created universe, but how much pokedex is reliable? Some pokedex entries are nonsensical, so what certainty we have, that Arceus entry is correct?
For now Giratina has a true form based on this statement however I found a quote saying that :
"It was banished for its violence. It silently gazed upon the old world from the Distortion World" ( Arceus banished Giratina to the Distortion World)
Now my issues are :
1) that quote kind...
Where did the whole Arceus having avatars come from?
Does Arceus have any other justification for his Omnipresence ability? Since it's only based on a statement that is kind.... Vague
While I agree about Arceus being 2-B but just to make sure can anyone post all of Arceus universal -...
Well, we did say it would come, eventually.
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Is Canon Again
Mystery Dungeon's canonicity is more of a side thing, but it's mandatory for the Magnagate argument. I honestly don't see why we removed this at all from the canon; I'm guessing it's because we lack a full-out...
Hedgehog God: 0
Lhama God: 0
They live together in the Realm of Gods: 0
Lhama God sees Hedgehog God and thinks he's an threat, then proceeds to stop him.
Bloodlusted
Speed equalized
Win by K.O, Sealing, BFR or Death
So i was thinking to myself "is Arceus almost dying by a meteor really PIS? Or could be that his Avatar is not so strong?" And then i remembered about cheese...
But thats bot the case
I think that we should make new keys to Arceus and the Creation Trio Avatars, since it would explain bs such as...
Shouldn't we add more justification for Arceus durability? here's what i suggest:
- withstood its own attack, which was able to push several universes
- tanked a hit from Creation Trio
- Abstract Existence\ Acausality make him very difficult to kill.