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Armorchompy
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  • Do not DM me, do not bump. I see all messages, I'm just not interested in replying to most of them. Feel free to ask for input, just know you're unlikely to get a response. Particularly unlikely to help with LN verses, very debated/popular verses (like the HST) or anything involving tier 1/0 or complex hax abilities.
    Ello! I'm back after a long time!

    I'm embarrassed to say that I feel like I made a really iffy calc, tbh, but I would still appreciate it if you could evaluate it and tell me what to improve on it.

    Massive thanks in advance!
    Could I have your input on this CRT?
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    CRT seems alright but IDK the verse sorry. If everyone accepts it and you need a staff FRA remind me in a day or two
    LaserPrecision
    LaserPrecision
    Looks like everyone is fine with the new changes (including a content moderator), figured it'd be nice to have you go through it since you said it would be fine in a day or two.
    Didn't see that coming...
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    I mean i really don't get it, what's that atittude for? Are you really hate RWBY or something like that? What happen to you?
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    Supporter base is a little unfun to discuss + Burned out on debating Gene + Reaper
    Do you think Constantine scales to Blight? Or UDM?
    Why was it not the right thread when I was talking about Giganta in a Giganta thread?
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    You're talking about DC scaling as a whole and what you say would affect dozens of profiles. You have all rights to attempt revisions as anyone else does but a character revision ain't the place to.
    Standards for it being a laser are met. The game characters, cutscenes, official names, descriptions, novellization, and the world guide states these are lasers. They diffuse light in a manner similar to that of a laser. They dissipate at distance like a laser. And they always originate from some sort of mechnical/technological source. For the Pod program, in cutscene you can see the laser being fired out of a lens.

    Is that enough to proceed?
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    Bambu knows the verse, don't bother me with this when I can't evaluate it
    Hey, could I get your input in this thread. I also need the evaluation of the two calcs in the CRT for them to go through, so if you can I was hoping you can evaluate those too.
    Hello, Armor.

    I apologize to bother you for this, but if you can, could you hop in this thread? Not as a voter, but as a thread moderator.
    See, there were these two characters. After a looong time, finally, a winner was voted on. However, then, the person defending the character who lost starts claiming that the match is a stomp, despite such a thing never being mentioned or hinted at before, or even true for that matter, based on the characters present. And now, said person is hold tight n their position that the match is a stomp, and not a decisive one.

    For a tl;dr (because the thread is massive, and I won't force you to go through it all): the winner character has better maneuverability, agility and skill feats, and has access to flight, teleport, and a weak regen. The loser character has ways of blocking the winner's attacks effectively for a long time, sound manip, energy projection, as well as restraining her and attacking her with a form of attack/energy the winner has never faced before. The winner only has a x0.54 AP advantage.

    I made sure to look up on what is accepted on the wiki, to be certain of what I'm advancing, but a stomp is when someone can't win, not when they just won't, correct? (as in, they are unable to effectively use the wincons to win, or they lose due to not using a wincon often or intensely enough. But as long as a wincon exists, even if the likelihood of success is low, then it's not a stomp?)
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    GoldenScorpions
    GoldenScorpions
    I forgot to come back here after the debacle, but thank you for your help with this.
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    No problem, although in the end I didn't really help out that much lol
    I had asked a calc group members a few days ago and got no response, so I wanted to ask (Just copying and pasting what I wrote there):

    I wanted to update a calc I made, and I just wanted to know something. I'm trying to measure the diameter of this city, and I wanted to know if the red outline is the city:

    Screenshot-2022-01-04-10-46-19-AM.png

    I looked at other cities, and the lines always DID seem to be the outline of the city, but I thought this outline seemed kinda big and results in a fairly large diameter (Larger than smaller cities with a smaller outline though, which would be consistent). It also seems kinda all over the place, so I wasn't sure if the whole thing was a city even though the measurements I took of it do line up with the 520 sq kilometer size it's said to have (Although it would need to have a very small height in order for it to add up).
    For the lasers, they need to hit at least three of these parameters.

    Standards for it being a laser are met. The game characters, cutscenes, official names, descriptions, novellization, and the world guide states these are lasers. They diffuse light in a manner similar to that of a laser. They dissipate at distance like a laser. And they always originate from some sort of mechnical/technological source. For the Pod program, in cutscene you can see the laser being fired out of a lens.
    Once you get into the God tier stats, if at all please let me know! I need to get some calculations made for Father which could be anything from tier 6 for base, to tier 3 for his healthy God form.

    Iirc in the raws, it's stated that the universe has a gate which Father draws power from. Gotta do more research on this tho.
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    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    Eeeeeeeeeeh, I wouldn't really assume that no, if the ability is shown then often it's an explicit thing and generally it should not be our default assumption unless evidence is overwhelming. Pride downscaling is admittedly somewhat flimsy though.

    I have never touched Bleach in my life I'm afraid. What's the scan for that?

    Also yeah Alchemy is just magic in 2003 lol, Scar just absorbs information from a buncha books at some point.
    LordGinSama
    LordGinSama
    Hmm well remember, he did show pretty good durability whenever Scar first attacked him, Scar can deconstruct and it had zero effect on Father.

    Actually I think the only time Base Father was damaged by anyone was whenever Van attacked him from the inside, which is durability negation since Van's own souls were attacking Father from the inside.


    Basically Yhwach was the creator of dozens abilities, he's the source of said abilities so they were given to him. Father is a bit different in that he directly absorbs the "knowledge." of the verse, thus he'd gain the Alchemy abilities of the verse since Alchemy is a result of the user's own knowledge to begin with.

    Lmfao the 2003 anime was wild. I think Scar also somehow survived getting Kenshiro'd by Kimblee's Alchemy and only ended up with the scars on his eyes.
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    That is resistance to duraneg. Admittedly a bit weird considering Scar is supposed to be using Eastern Alchemy, but still.

    Fair point, I should look back at those fights.

    Fair but when is it stated that he absorbed that knowledge?

    Shoutouts to that one minor villain coming back as a cyborg, and then shooting Mustang in the head with a regulard handheld pistol despite having a huge arm cannon
    Hello Armorchompy, sorry for bothering you, but we need the help of calc group members to decide which version of these calcs is going to be used.

    We are currently discussing if using 1 pixel for measuring the end of a crater is correct or not.
    Therefir
    Therefir
    Sorry, I didn't noticed you already commented there.
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    just debunk the vaporization, that way the calc is useless and you do not need to worry about it anymore
    By the way, you never did say if the other calculations worked. The laser dodge and the physical strength through the machine's body weight. I've also included a few sources for the EMP being light speed. Also, I've redone the invisibility speed thing.
    TheAngryOrange
    Well the game itself states these are laser attacks. Also, on the vsbattle Nier Automata pages they are accepted as lasers and marked as speed of light attack speed.
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    That is not enough, it is only one of three parameters. And if that is the case then that should be removed.
    TheAngryOrange
    Do mechanical sources count as realistic sources? Cuz if it does then three cases are met. It gets called a laser. It diffuses light like a laser. And it always originates from some sort of machine/mechanical contraption. And the origin point on said contraption also gives off light.
    Know I already asked, but can you please evaluate this? Really want the high-end accepted here.
    Armorchompy
    Armorchompy
    ... but the high-end isn't what should be accepted
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    JPTheGamer
    JPTheGamer
    And neither the low-end? Why?

    Well, can you also evaluate this one?
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