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  • Hey could u please check out this Thread please. I summarized the arguments near the bottom of page 3.

    Thanks if you do if you don’t have time completely fine 👍🏽
    Hi Elizhaa, sorry if this bothers you
    Since you are an expert in CM manipulation and type 2, so I have a question is
    In Xenoverse 2 specifically the infinity history saga

    Tokipedia is a Special Scroll of eternity that accurately simulates the Scroll of eternity created by Fu's genius intelligence and it contains what is known as the Completion Data/Records about the events and timelines that FW2 has completed. According to the official v-jump book and other descriptions of chronoa's Scroll of eternity we know that the data/Record is actually the only mass of the scroll not histories they describle, i.e. they are the only that can be filled Scroll and are considered elements contained in the Scroll of eternity, even if all the history that the data describe does not exist, in addition these data still exist even if the things/events/timelines they describe are erased (by Fu reset time, absorb all the times and events that FW2 has completed), containing them also means directly containing the events, histories and timelines they describe and being able to observe them arbitrarily when looking in, but they are also formed by each act that creates events in history,..
    In addition, the data records are only one (for example, there is only one data record about the branching route about choosing Vegeta as the instructor, even though any previous route could branch to it)
    They aren't story/timeline branches merging after branching or overlapping because DBX follows MWI (many worlds interpretation) as we know it and these are not timelines but their Data Records. Also multiple branches about the same event cannot exist at the same time because they have been deleted and reset by Fu (but not the Data about it).
    So they are abstract and universal (which are the only things in common of all physical timelines branching to its events without merging/overlapping branched routes or timelines) in accordance with vbw standards.
    So do you think this "completion data/Records" is the very concept of historical events and timelines and the histories/timelines themselves (type 2) ? Or it just Data/information of Reality?







    Hey there! How are you doing? Are the Time Patrols going okay? Hmm? Why do we go back and fix history? You haven't heard? I don't believe it. Think about it. We can't let these evildoers just go back and change history as they please! If history is altered too much, it'll be the end of the world as we know it! Once history changes, it will create a fissure in the Book of the Beginnings and Endings. When there is a difference between the proper history and the altered one, it's too much for a single scroll to contain. So as the number of scrolls increases, the Time Vault where they're stored fills up. Once its limit is reached... Boom! I'm afraid if the Time Vault goes, the entire universe will disappear along with it. That's why you need to fix these changes, so I can return things to a single scroll! Yup, I'm completely capable of such a feat! What do you expect from the all-powerful Supreme Kai of Time?!CHRONOA EXPLAINING HOW ALTERING HISTORY COULD DESTROY THE TIME VAULT IN DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE 2

    Elizhaa
    Elizhaa
    No evidences prove the records from history are conceptual or abstract since the records from scrolls are not described as such. More contexts are needed. Fu being able to warp Tokipedia is more so Causality Manipulation; this case would also be for others being something similar.
    Rabbit2002
    Rabbit2002
    Thanks for your feedback comment
    Regarding tokipedia and Fu, I'm not saying Fu has the ability to warp tokipedia or anything near and like that, Fu just created Tokipedia by his intellect and was declared the smartest by Tokipedia itself (Yeah, supergenuis intelligence feat , although this was omitted and not mentioned), his feat was to reset and erase the entire timeline which the tokipedia records describe as never existed, not the records themselves and neither affect tokipedia's records in any way let alone Warp tokipedia. Regarding data/records being abstract, it has been described as such although not stated directly
    Example: If Tokipedia has two branching levels (Yeah a simple analogy), level 1 consists of three nodes A, B, C, level 2 also includes three nodes 1,2,3. Since DBX follows MWI, branches will branch out similar to a binary data tree But more than two trees in each branch (e.g. A will branch out to A1,A2,A3, B and C similar). However, there is only one node "of the same type" as there is only one node "2" even though there are three branches A2, B2, C2. Similar to having different blue tables, but abstractions is "table" and "blue". Those nodes is Data records of tokipedia, branches is timelines/physic objects they describe and respresent
    In addition, they also show the transcendental quality of the object it represents and govern reality. So any effect on the data itself and the records will affect all the objects they represent/describe, like delete, contain, merge,.. data and records will have the same effect on their physical objects (in this case: timelines and events) in a similar way. They also shape all of reality, consistently described as "everything". They are also not bound by the object they represent, since Fu erases all the timelines and events they represent as they never existed at all, they still exist and are completely unaffected by it.
    Hello Elizhaa how are you doing?

    Can you check this thread when you gotta time?

    Elizhaa
    Elizhaa
    I will try to reply at least tomorrow.
    Mister6ame6
    Mister6ame6
    Ok, Thanks for that.
    Hello Elizha, one question.

    The user Milly Rocking bandit told me that Rimuru's Death manipulation comes from Mind Hax, and that if u resist the Mindhax you will also resist the Death manip from Demon lord Haki, is that true?.

    In my opinion I don't think so, as Hax like corruption which come from radiation have two side effects, and the organic life
    that somehow resist the toxic effects of the Aura are passively corrupted turning them into monsters.

    Also, the effects from the Demon Lord Haki are very diverse, so that if you resist Mind hax, it wouldn't mean that you would also be able to resist Death manipulation, no?
    Elizhaa
    Elizhaa
    Also, the effects from the Demon Lord Haki are very diverse, so that if you resist Mind hax, it wouldn't mean that you would also be able to resist Death manipulation, no?
    • I guess the effect discussed from Demon Lord Haki is Madness Manipulation Type 3. The short answer like you said resist such ability would not mean the opponent could resist Rimuru corruption aura and also Rimuru's other abilities that also could qualify as death manipulation.
    Hi Elizhaa, i have see that your a knowledgeable member of conceptuel manipulation, could you plz give your imput in this thread pls? It's about adding in a verse page a line about how even if the verse concept is classified as not following vsb type it still work much like a type 2

    hello, can you give your thoughts on this CRT
    Elizhaa
    Elizhaa
    Sorry, I have been busy. Including Texts from imgur link, the thread is around 40 pages or more so it might take me a while to review everything. Though, I am leaning to agree fine with what ByAsura so far.
    Hi.

    I saw that you re-opened the thread to say that you locked pages; but they were supposed to stay unlocked since the thread riiiight after affect a ton of them (except Paradise Lost but Satanel).

    Although I understand that it prevent vandalism.
    Just wanted to make it know.
    Hello,

    Sorry to bother, but I have a quick question about immortality. There are 2 characters from a series that have had their souls forcibly separated from their bodies, and then their bodies were then either decapitated or eaten, but both these characters were able to survive and act normally as souls afterwards. Do you you have an idea of what kind of immortality this would be, if its even immortality at all? I've gotten some mixed answers between type 2, type 7, or just unconventional resistance to Soul Manip so some input would be nice. Thanks in advance.
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