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ByAsura

ByAsura

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  • I am currently preoccupied with a multitude of existing threads and real life issues. Unless I'm knowledgeable/interested enough about a verse (i.e Doctor Who, Evil Dead, Gunbuster, Godzilla, the CW, etc) to give genuine constructive criticism or approval, I probably won't give input. Also, I will make fun of you if you ask me to cover a Bleach or Naruto thread.
    Emirp sumitpo
    You forgot to change Boros' LS btw. It should be Class G since Class Z has been ditched
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    Emirp sumitpo
    Emirp sumitpo
    Also why ditch the likely far higher for Saitama?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Kachon said something about it, and I just didn't have the effort to argue. Makes pretty much no difference, either.
    Emirp sumitpo
    Emirp sumitpo
    I feel like Saitama should get it, considering we do know he is very much higher than what his current tier is. But if he really doesn't need it, then that's fine I suppose.
    Emirp sumitpo
    Hey dude. I know you weren't interested in joining a similar thread but since you helped downgrade the Boros CSRC calc. I though your input might be useful here: https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-orochi-ray-pushes-the-earths-core-apart.123825/

    Basically. There are a few arguments for Boros so I'll just go over it.

    • One guy is attempting to scale Boros through melting as a way validate Low 5-B because he says "We ne3ver see it happen" and tries to use the anime as proof for melting
    • Some guys made a new Boros incinerating the surface calc which yielded Moon level
    • I'm arguing that because we put Released and MB Boros above Orochi, who is Low 5-B, it would cause scaling contradictions as Boros thinks his High 6-A would kill Saitama when his regular MB self could not.
    Arceus0x
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    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    i didn't even play the game and i still get it. Either some people think it is that obvious or people just didn't meet the npc
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Probably doesn't help that I have an s instead of a z, either.
    Arceus0x
    Arceus0x
    yeah i only got it cause i really remembered the voice clip
    Dual_Binoculars
    Hey ByAsura, could you come and take a look at your opm 7-A thread when you have the time. We've been discussing some different scaling methods that other members have brought up to improve the scaling that you might want to take a look at.
    Lormac_CC
    Just wanted to ask, why did meliodas danavor cal use pulverization rather than vaporization
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    We agreed that pretty much everything except one panel suggests vaporization.
    DaReaperMan
    By the way ByAsura, did you get the link to the Star Wars revisions discord yet?
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    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I don't use discord with wiki members, sorry. Too much personal information.

    Just give me the updates.
    DaReaperMan
    DaReaperMan
    Alright, I'll give them here
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Thanks.
    Joycap
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Not really knowledgeable on Xenosaga, but I'll comment on some of the formatting.

    Unbold the quote. You can bold or italicise some words in the paragraph if they're specifically emphasised.

    You might want to replace the circular brackets inside circular brackets with square brackets. So "[was a gun in Japanese versions of the game]". It's nothing big, it just makes it look neater.

    "used it's particle". Pet peeve, but lose the apostrophe here.

    It's spatial manipulation, not spacial.

    You've mostly got this down, but the start of the text in each bracket should be capitalised.

    You don't need full stops at the end of brackets and the end of sentences inside brackets.

    If he's stronger than before, this second tier would also be 'At least Multi-Continental level, likely Solar System level'.

    "level" in each tier shouldn't be capitalised.

    The higher in 'likely higher' should be bolded.

    What's the "otherwise Unknown" thing about? Also, unknown should be bolded.

    It's Universe level+, not Universe+ Level.

    In the key section, the spaces and bars between each key shouldn't be bolded, just the keys themselves.

    A lot of stuff should be explained since there isn't a Xenosaga page on this wiki. We don't know how large Proto Merkabah is/why the fall itself is Multi-Continent level, what U-DO is, context behind these "higher domains", and the justification for him having Nigh-Omniscience.
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    Joycap
    Joycap
    "Finally, some good ******* feedback."

    The quote I can't seem to unbold atm because of changes to the UI. Although if you saw the scene that quote came from, everything is kinda emphasised lol.

    Square brackets are fine.

    Now that you mention it, the particle cannon was specifically a U.M.N phase transfer cannon. Revised that now, should I put in a video clip?

    Spatial revised.

    Capitals corrected.

    Proto Merkabah is kinda awkward to talk about, because on foot Albedo is actually stronger than PM, in which he wanted to drop it on a planet. That said, it is possible that PM scales, because Sophie Pathos was able to create a pocket dimension of similar magnitude. Might end up being an irrelevant footnote anyway, I'll let Saga revisions Discord be the final arbiter of that one.

    Sure, I'll roll with the bolding.

    'otherwise Unknown' is just my way of saying that Albedo in III (as a Testament) was around so briefly, that we don't know how far his amps went in that form (because between you and me, III's narrative is kind of a meme). Again, I'll let SagaCord decide.

    Plus corrected.

    Idk about this one. I used Shulk's key as a frame of reference, and that was all bolded.

    Nigh-Omniscient I'll have to get back to you on that one. There's an entire guide on Saga's domains that a friend of mine sent me, but I'm still kinda trying to wrap my head around it.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Ok, then.

    If you can add clips, then do so. It’s always good to have some substantiation.

    Not really sure what that means exactly, but I’ll take your word that it’s too complicated.

    If it’s a case of his power just generally being unknown, then have it as Unknown, likely/possibly Universe level+. If it’s still increasing over time, then note that in the tier itself or say ‘would eventually become far higher’.

    Linking the higher domains guide itself would work (if you have a functioning link, that is).
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    Gohanblanco217
    Sorry for being a bother but did you make a calc about Oroshi absorbing a part of the Core?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    No.
    Gohanblanco217
    Gohanblanco217
    Strange someone told me that you make a calc about Oroshi absorbing the heat energy of the core and the results were small planet level with a low ball
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I said it was a rough estimate.

    I'm unsure of the methods, though.
    LordTracer
    Hey, you had a sandbox with feats from the Marvel G1 Transformers continuity, right?
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    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Are you planning some profiles?
    LordTracer
    LordTracer
    Yeah, Marvel G1 profiles have been something I’ve wanted to do for a while. Although they definitely won’t be ready any time soon.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    What kind of ratings? Using Bumblebee's mass, Shockwave falling from orbit would reach 14 tons of tnt.
    TimmyTurnero
    Ok so then I ask you this question here.
    If genos saw that saitama scales to country level and later on after several arcs of him training, fought someone and witnessed his strength and said he was comparable to saitama, why cant that be used to scale him to the meteor? I wanna see your reasoning.
    Also even if gougetsu gets rejected (im quite sure nobody has refuted the reasoning) im pretty the girl jet thingy scaling still stands
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    TimmyTurnero
    TimmyTurnero
    Ill talk about it on the staff only thread honestly no point in talking here i just wanted to see your argument so I could see what I would be dealing with.
    Also what statement was made in the hero perfection guide?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Apparently there was some vague implication that MK and Genos could have stopped it if they worked together.

    I strongly doubt it, though. Neither of them were able to scratch the meteor even slightly, let alone slow it down.
    TimmyTurnero
    TimmyTurnero
    Yikes someone was trying to use that as an argument? But i can see stopping it (not destroying) being possible if they do want to use that form of argument
    GoldenScorpions
    Hello, Asura. Hope I'm not bothering.
    I'm looking for opinions about estimating the size of a city that gets destroyed in a book, based on various context clues provided.
    Would you mind giving your opinion on here about it?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    It might be better to ask someone who lives in Japan. I've got little knowledge of what stands for urban/medium towns for my country, let alone another one, sorry.
    GoldenScorpions
    GoldenScorpions
    Understood. Thanks for your time
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    About the downgrade for Invincible

    The current AP calc is based upon the initial crater when Mark, Omni Man, and Thaedus actually went through the planet! That just tells me that they aren't just High 6-A

    And with Newton's third law there definitely would be a whiplash from Viltrum's destruction, and that's not to mention that everyone fighting did tank the whiplash for how far away they were from it

    I even made a calc for it: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...ters_tank_the_whiplash_of_Viltrum's_explosion
    DarthSpiderr
    Hello. Can you please check it out? To all this, this comment is an addition.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I'm not really sure. Seems like you guys have it handled.
    DarthSpiderr
    DarthSpiderr
    We are still discussing whether Garou's speed scales to Suiryu due to the game's VR (Not AP), whether Sonic scales above Darkshine in speed (In OVA, whose script is written by ONE, he's FTE for Metal Bat, Genos, Emperor's Child and Darkshine) and whether Iaian has a reaction speed to the Evil Natural Water (Reaction speed only).

    Also, just now we had a topic about whether Melzagand scaled to Bang (The difference in their speed without scaling throw Bang hundreds of times. But at the same time he was able to hit him, although Bang was looking at him. But at the same time, Metal Bat, Prisoner and Iaian can fight Melzagand). Either the fact that the other S-class heroes are fighting Melzagand at equal speeds is an outlier, or the fact that Melzagand is scaled up to Bang is an outlier.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I don't really have an opinion, tbh.
    Oliver_de_jesus
    Hey, you know why people think that grace> Glory, the truth is I can't find any but I would like to know your opinion
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I've literally never heard that before.

    Sorry, I can't actually do the revisions, btw. The wiki keeps giving me a random editing thing on many profiles.
    Idazmi
    I know this is sudden, and it's probably not a verse you're very knowledgeable in, but can you give your opinion on this CRT?
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I know nothing about Sonic, sorry.
    Idazmi
    Idazmi
    That wouldn't even matter in this case, as this series is utterly different from the rest of Sonic. It was written before most of the current lore was established and is essentially it's own thing.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I don't know any sonic media is what I'm saying. Literally the only thing I know about the entire franchise as a whole is the names of a few characters, the Chaos Emeralds, and that it's about a fast-moving Hedgehog.

    I could look into it, but I'm also doing a bunch of CRTs at the moment and I have some things to do in a few days. Sorry.
    Oliver_de_jesus
    hello byAsura, how are you? I hope it's ok


    I am working on a doctor who Crt, I was wondering if we can use Faction Paradox since I read the canon thread and got a bit confused.

    is it canon or official through license but not Canon(in the style of DBGT)?
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    Oliver_de_jesus
    Oliver_de_jesus
    good, i will searching the scans that you mention to give acuasuality to the TARDISes then, unless you have those scans that I would appreciate if it were like this.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I'll have to look for them, but the statements about being similar to the Vortex is from Spacebattles (also, they're 5-D).

    The scan is from Alien Bodies or The Taking of Planet 5, so you won't have to look far. Keep in mind that it's likely a highly advanced War TARDIS, as this is late into the War in Heaven and they stopped producing anything except War and Humanoid TARDISes on Gallifrey and its copies. But the statement does appear to be referring to TARDISes in general.
    • Today, the 91 -forms are the only standard (i.e. non-hominidsentient) timeships still being produced on the Homeworld. Indeed, apart from a few retrograde units they’re the only non-hominid timeships left in service. - The Book of the War
    The Doctor's TARDIS is stated to have an 11-D matrix in The Doctor's Wife. All later TARDISes should be fitted with a similar, or even more advanced, matrix.
    Oliver_de_jesus
    Oliver_de_jesus
    Thanks
    Agnaa
    ByAsura said:
    I haven't read the entire thread, and I know I'm late to the discussion.

    It shouldn't be black and white. For example, if character A pushes to their absolute limit to lift an object that's 5 kg away from baseline Class 5 and character B effortlessly overpowers them, I'd say there's more than a reasonable enough case for upscaling B to Class 5. If character B is just vaguely stronger, then I'd say we rate them 'Class 1, possibly Class 5'.

    This is the reason why Frieza is Small Star level+, despite falling short of that rating by ~7%, as Goku is far superior to a feat First Form Frieza performed with relatively little effort. However, scaling someone like Frieza to something like Star level is another matter, as there's no concrete numbers to support Goku being almost twice the strength of First Form Frieza, despite the massive amount of evidence in its favour.

    Basically, it should be case-by-case. All or none just seems illogical here, and it seems everyone agrees currently.
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    This explanation doesn't really make sense to me. If Goku is far superior to a feat that's 7% short of Star level, why wouldn't he/Frieza be Star level? Jumping to Star level isn't being twice as strong, it's being 1.075x as strong.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    That's because you misunderstood what I was getting at. Sorry if I made it confusing.

    100% Final Form Frieza is upscaled from Small Star level to Small Star level+ because 40 x 1.6 tenatons (Frieza's supernova feat) is 68 tenatons, and Small Star level+ is only 71.7855 tenatons. It's a slight gap of 5.567%, and base Goku is far superior to Frieza's 3rd Form, which is also vastly superior to his Second and First Forms.

    68 tenatons to baseline Star level (136.066 tenatons), however, is a gap of just over 2x.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Ah okay I get it now. fwiw that's the sort of thing that the site seems unanimously against for a variety of reasons. Going to Star level would involve stacking multipliers on top of each other, and would require a 2x multiplier for one-shotting, far above anyone's suggested number in the thread.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    I'm also against it. What I'm not against is the less than 6% increase.
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