OPM Low 5-B upgrades

[Qawsedf234]

Well my calc for Orochi's feat has been approved for the 10 or 20 second end. Due to the nature of the feat somewhat discussed in the general thread, here are my suggested ratings:

• Saitama becomes "At least Low 5-B"
• Orochi and Psyrochi's physicals go from High 6-C to 6-B for the earthquake feat
• Saitama, Orochi, Psyrochi, and Tornado all gain Class Z lifting strength
• The Gaia Cannon is ultimately an amp from Orochi. While there's still some debate in the general thread, my suggestion would be that he becomes "6-B, Low 5-B with the Gaia Cannon" and Psyrochi becomes "At least 6-B physically, High 6-A with telekinesis, Low 5-B with the Gaia Cannon"
• If we decide that the Gaia Cannon scales directly to Orochi; then everyone I previously mentioned becomes just "Low 5-B" or "At least Low 5-B"

Now since I'm a dirty Boros stan it was brought up, sorta, in the general thread we also have one more proposal

• Here's a scan of Boros' Japanese dialogue where he says "全エネルギーを放ち貴様もろとも星の表面を消し飛ばしてやろう"
• The translation of that is "I will fire all of my energy to blast away you and the surface of this planet" with a valid alternate Manga Databook translation to be "Able to scrap off/shave the Earth" which directly goes with the idea that the CSRC would have blasted the surface to ruins
• I bring all of this up because there was a Mass Scatter version of the CSRC that was done forever ago, but its usage was very split

Anyways discuss

 

[Bernkastelll]

Didnt Orochi absorbed the magma energy to himself, no? Shouldnt him scales directly to it instead of it being just Low 5-B with an attack? butI dont rlly mind, also, I didnt understood the Boros part, can u explain it?

 

[The_Pink_God]

This will surely be an interesting thread
Following

 

[Qawsedf234]

Shouldnt him scales directly to it instead of it being just Low 5-B with an attack?

Since he absorbed the energy it would be counted as an amp under the proposed interpretation. So his durability would be 6-B without core absorption

understood the Boros part, can u explain it?

A possible alternative to his current calc is the explosion shaving the Earth's surface and ejecting it into space, which would yield Low 5-B results as well.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Since he absorbed the energy it would be counted as an amp under the proposed interpretation. So his durability would be 6-B without core absorption

Ah I see, but shouldnt him become Low 5-B with the absorption?

A possible alternative to his current calc is the explosion shaving the Earth's surface and ejecting it into space, which would yield Low 5-B results as well.

Which calc has the highest value, the Boros one or Orochi?

 

[Damage3245]

The Gaia Cannon is ultimately an amp from Orochi. While there's still some debate in the general thread, my suggestion would be that he becomes "6-B, Low 5-B with the Gaia Cannon"

I agree with this.

Though I'm not so sure about this scaling to Orochi's durability.

Psyrochi becomes "At least 6-B physically, High 6-A with telekinesis, Low 5-B with the Gaia Cannon"

I don't think that Psykorochi should have this as a part of their skillset to be honest. Even if it is something that Psychorochi could theoretically replicate, it isn't something that they did in that form.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Which calc has the highest value, the Boros one or Orochi?

Boros would be higher by a factor ~1.03x to 4.14x depending on what end is accepted from Orochi and the Mass Ejection.

Even if it is something that Psychorochi could theoretically replicate, it isn't something that they did in that form.

Maybe "Potentially Low 5-B"? Her absorption would allow her to replicate it theoretically.

But if we want to drop it for her that's also fine.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Boros would be higher by a factor ~1.03x to 4.14x depending on what end is accepted from Orochi and the Mass Ejection.

Then I agree with Boros changes


also, not sure about Psykos having it, we arent sure if Orochi will scale to Psykos now, as it was kinda of redrawed and all, idk if Psykos still has the same Orochi powers

 

[Qawsedf234]

we arent sure if Orochi will scale to Psykos now

Neuron Psykos is just Psykos + Orochi + God's powers. She'd have everything he would, but higher. Plus her claim about fusing with the planet does fit with her possibly being able to replicate it.

Though I do get it if we want to drop that point.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Agree with everyone in the OP besides the CSRC stuff, which I’m neutral on (surface wiping calcs ain’t my forte)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Neuron Psykos is just Psykos + Orochi + God's powers. She'd have everything he would, but higher. Plus her claim about fusing with the planet does fit with her possibly being able to replicate it.

I know that Psykos has all orochi powers, but Orochi got new powers, which he didnt had when he absorbed Psykos, as it was kinda of ''retconned ig''? also I made a thread about Psykos fusing with planet, but it was rejected but it seems that it have a better context now, but i would prefer Psykos having a ''Possibly'' rating to the gaia cannon

 

[StrawHatArslan]

100% Agreed with

Saitama out of common sense would become At least Low 5-B, that's also something I agree with

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Neuron Psykos is just Psykos + Orochi + God's powers. She'd have everything he would, but higher. Plus her claim about fusing with the planet does fit with her possibly being able to replicate it.

100% correct. There's no way Psyrochi doesn't scale to it.

 

[Bernkastelll]

100% correct. There's no way Psyrochi doesn't scale to it.

Not sure about that tho, Orochi didnt had it when he absorbed Psykos, he only got it with the redraw, which is kinda of a retcon

 

[Quangotjokes]

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[Ourosboros]

I agree with everything above.

As the person who made the current CSRC calc, I understood that mass ejection was also a possibility but understood it was seen as an outlierish method at the time. Now that we have low 5-B upgrades, a more energy intensive method is worth looking into since it makes sense narratively.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Psyrochi is factually more powerful than Orochi.
Orochi himself says that the newfound power will help him get revenge on Saitama while he's wrestling for control of the body.

 

[Damage3245]

I still think we should leave Psyrochi untouched for now until the redraws catch up to that form.

 

[Bernkastelll]

but he only got gaia cannon with the new redraw, which is kinda of retcon, I dont see how we should scale it to Psyko-orochi, but nvm

 

[Dienomite22]

I see no reason why Orochi's durability wouldn't at least scale above the Gaia Cannon

 

[Bernkastelll]

I still think we should leave Psyrochi untouched for now until the redraws catch up to that form.

Yeah, I agree with this

 

[Pepsiman25th]

opm got redrawn? which chapter was it, i must see

 

[Tetsucabrah]

I still think we should leave Psyrochi untouched for now until the redraws catch up to that form.

Fair enough. But who knows how long that will be.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

I still think we should leave Psyrochi untouched for now until the redraws catch up to that form.

Is everything else like saitama, and others looking fine to you?

 

[JirensMom]

Agree with the OP neutral on pskyorochi stuff.
God should scale above Orochi’s Low 5-B

 

[Bernkastelll]

opm got redrawn? which chapter was it, i must see

https://**********/read/imgur/tUE1KAa/1/2/

 

[Maharaj]

I don't really get the AMP thing, the feat in question that was calced was the KE of pulling the magma from the core, which he did with his tail before he was "amped"

 

[Dienomite22]

I don't really get the AMP thing, the feat in question that was calced was the KE of pulling the magma from the core, which he did with his tail before he was "amped"

Just realized this is true.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I don't really get the AMP thing, the feat in question that was calced was the KE of pulling the magma from the core, which he did with his tail before he was "amped"

So, are you proposing to it become Low 5-B without being like a ''new amped key'' or something? it makes sense lol

 

[Slacjow]

I agree with Damage.
There's no support for Orochi getting an amp in stats, aside from assumptions.
He can be 5-B with that laser.

And as for Psykorochi, I think she should be left alone for now.
After this redraw who knows what else he might add or remove.

As for Lifting Strength, I don't see how it scales to any other characters, as of now at least.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Psykorochi being High 6-A via telekinesis is wrong, no? She did it with a normal energy blast. Wouldn't that still scale to her normally? Even if not, "with energy blasts" or "with psychokinesis" would still fit better. Also, I do think it should get a potentially Low 5-B. The only argument against it is "the redraw may change things", and, well, when it does we can just change it again.

No clue about Boros.

 

[Dienomite22]

I agree with Damage.
There's no support for Orochi getting an amp in stats, aside from assumptions.
He can be 5-B with that laser.

He literally tanked an attack that destroyed the laser.

Not to mention what Maharaj said.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I agree with Damage.
There's no support for Orochi getting an amp in stats, aside from assumptions.
He can be 5-B with that laser.

It was brought that the feat was the KE of yada yada math thing bla bla which was made by the tail of base Orochi, so, shouldnt be Low 5-B just with that attack

and even then, Orochi absorbed that energy to himself

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I agree with everything on the OP except the Neuron Psykos stuff

Potentially/Possibly/Likely Low 5-B with Gaia Cannon for theoretically being able to do the same is the safest bet with the current info we have

And Saitama's water jet blasted through him, he survived because he can take that kind of damage and survive (Immortality Type 2, already listed in his profile), he didn't "tank it"

 

[Qawsedf234]

I don't see how it scales to anyone other characters

The tail pulled it up, which is why I thought something might be there for lifting strength.

 

[ImposingTiger]

I'll give my thoughts tomorrow.

 

[Damage3245]

He literally tanked an attack that destroyed the laser.

He what?

 

[Tetsucabrah]

I don't really get the AMP thing, the feat in question that was calced was the KE of pulling the magma from the core, which he did with his tail before he was "amped"

Yeah that makes no sense.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I don't really get the AMP thing, the feat in question that was calced was the KE of pulling the magma from the core, which he did with his tail before he was "amped"

Good Question. That confuses me somewhat too.

 

[Dienomite22]

He what?

The squirt