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ByAsura
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  • I am currently preoccupied with a multitude of existing threads and real life issues. Unless I'm knowledgeable/interested enough about a verse (i.e Doctor Who, Evil Dead, Gunbuster, Godzilla, the CW, etc) to give genuine constructive criticism or approval, I probably won't give input. Also, I will make fun of you if you ask me to cover a Bleach or Naruto thread.
    Can you calc these moon explosions or otherwise have an opinion on them? Both explosions are on panel 4 of their respective scans.
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    It seems that even 15 tons of tnt explosions on the moon are visible from space, so I am not sure how strong the explosions are, but they are significantly bigger than 15 tons of tnt.
    Emirp sumitpo
    Emirp sumitpo
    If you want to have calcs requested you should ask it in here. Just follow instruction and you'd be fine.

    Primestar3
    Ok thanks.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Sorry, I didn't see this until today.
    "The cage is being projected around him to trap him in place (the ability is literally stated to be time skip used constantly on Jiren, meaning it's not time-stop). So yes, he's moving the cage. Saying otherwise is actually the headcanon here, and the time inside his dimension isn't frozen in any way."


    Stated to be a time skip? , he says, that he's going to bind him in a cage of time, you could say he moves the cage but that doesn't change the fact that hit stills bind him in time, one more I never said frozen you failed to realize, I said frozen in time not actually removing time. Not to mention, Champa says (4:02) keep him frozen which supports the evidence that it is freezing in time.

    In the db wiki it also supports my point https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Time_Prison
    elhermanopadre
    elhermanopadre
    There is nothing saying that the description is wrong and once more, supports my point even more.

    You just contradicted yourself, you said that time-skip doesn't stop time, but can stop time on those boss' guards. That means he can decide to stop time, freeze in time, and skip-time with time-skip.

    And the skipping-one doesn't work for your argument, it's proved to not stop movements unlike what's being showed and used against jiren (plus the rocks) and it makes perfect sense with Vados' s statement of him spamming time-skip since time-skip can stop, freeze in time, and skip-time and it was established that skipping-doesn't stop the opponent's movements, so it's very likely that he's either freezing or stopping time against jiren.
    ByAsura
    ByAsura
    Ok, it's your prerogative to think that.

    I said it's an inconsistency. I never contradicted myself. Time-skip also doesn't work that way.

    It's a different application on Jiren to trap him. So it's still the same technique, just different. This harkens back to my point that freeze doesn't mean frozen in time.

    At this point, it's more opinion vs opinion. So I'm well and truly done arguing about Hit.
    elhermanopadre
    elhermanopadre
    Ok, your still wrong xd.

    Just because you think it's inconsistent does mean it is. How does time-skip doesn't work that way? you just said that he used time-skip to stop the time of those alien's and it was proved and stated that he can freeze in time, stop time and skip time, so he chooses the applications.

    Once more you make no sense, we know that skipping time doesn't stop you from moving (hit the living proof of that) you realize that , if jiren struggle a bit to move, that cannot be skipping time, not to mention it was said to keep him freeze, the only reasonable answer use of that is him freezing or stopping time.
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