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BumpOllerus vs Goku
Speed wasn't equalised in this thread and Goku has received some good buffs to his speed since then
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BumpOllerus vs Goku
Speed wasn't equalised in this thread and Goku has received some good buffs to his speed since then
Not 4-DDoesn't Goku like... resist Existence Erasure?
It's EE along with BFR and Sealing.Doesn't Goku like... resist Existence Erasure?
Beerus doesn't lead with hakai, he leads with CQCBeerus vs Chica’s Magic Rainbow
The wincons for the rainbow are reality warping which isn’t in character and multiple mini rainbows. The argument for Beerus is that he leads with Hakai. If Beerus leads with it, and is more experienced, what can the rainbow even do here?
Why would he not lead with Hakai if the rainbow likes foul mouthing all the time?Beerus doesn't lead with hakai, he leads with CQC
Cause he's never done it unless he's really pissed off/deemed the situation worthy of it.Why would he not lead with Hakai if the rainbow likes foul mouthing all the time?
This is the Time Eater VS Goku matchup, added to both profiles.
Here's the argument for Goku's victory:
"Yeah, Time Eater never uses hax in character."
"In the actual fight, the time eater rarely uses its hax."
"If the Time Eater is anything like the final boss of Sonic Generations then... Ultra Instinct Goku. Like, in character it NEVER uses its Hax nearly effective enough."
"[...] and there's only a small chance he'd get haxed out considering it's OOC for him to use it."
"The Time eater does not use had in character."
This is completely wrong.
TE's first move is EE (which, btw, he had no such HAX when the matchup was performed).
In other words, this matchup is a stomp, as Goku will be immediately erased from existence + BFR + Sealing.
This must be removed from both profiles.
BumpI'd like to remove Aizen vs Eternatus because it heavily misunderstood Eternatus" power null. It nulls just active actions as even said in the thread about the creation of its profile, it doesn't stop passive abilities from working, that's another power that needs to be activated. Ergo, Aizen just passives Eternatus to death.
It’s archived, literally stated on the thread. Click the linkGoku vs sonic comics only has three comments and no one voted yet it was added to sonics profile
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the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.
spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.
2.
also is this one a stomp
cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.
3.
and this one.
they have similar speed.
but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.
check if this one deserves to be removed or not.
or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.
i'm still not sure so could someone help.
4.
was this one fine?
(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")
also this one
because dragonmaster said this
"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.
Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."
these i'm not sure if remove or not.
There’s nothing wrong with this one
but saman told me to place it here because of this
“If the result wouldn't change, then I think it could stay, though it's better if you ask about that in the vs matches removal.
Also, remember to explain why Rem's 8-B can't be restricted.”
I’m just curious guys. Do you have to say 8-B or is saying 8-C for rem okay because that’s the only key for rem and 8-B isn’t because it’s a weapon or something (still if it’s a standard weapon you must not restrict), it’s because it’s a effect of her magic.
so should have I said 8-C or 8-B?
Hmm... removing the match for how one's standard tactics are argued should be covered here but dispelling said character's misconceptions would be best handled on its own thread.If I have an issue with most of a character's fights due to (what I perceive to be) issues with how their standard tactics were argued, should I just write a long post about that here, or does that deserve its own thread?
1.
the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.
spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.
2.
also is this one a stomp
cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.
3.
and this one.
they have similar speed.
but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.
check if this one deserves to be removed or not.
or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.
i'm still not sure so could someone help.
4.
was this one fine?
(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")
also this one
because dragonmaster said this
"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.
Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."
these i'm not sure if remove or not.
nvm, looks like there's only one bad fight...If I have an issue with most of a character's fights due to (what I perceive to be) issues with how their standard tactics were argued, should I just write a long post about that here, or does that deserve its own thread?
Esdeath's wincon is still same time stop+any attack. Accelerator being 5-B is kinda irrelevant since he could have one shotted even when this match was actually doneAfter revisions for both characters involved Esdeath loss here should be removed (the most obvious being a High 7-A Vs a 5-B).
I'm aware of it but it doesn't change the fact she only has only has one win-con (which is also partly relies on CIS on the part of her opponent "jobbing"). The MU just doesn't work imo.Esdeath's wincon is still same time stop+any attack. Accelerator being 5-B is kinda irrelevant since he could have one shotted even when this match was actually done
Bumpthis should be removed this match is currently a massive stomp in vergils favor, it should be removed
Vergil is 2-C and beerus is Low 2-C
Vergil has mid-godly & AE 1 that could easily counter hakai
Her wincon isn't really reliant on pre headshot Accel being a ****** they are more so reliant on how quickly she uses her time stopI'm aware of it but it doesn't change the fact she only has only has one win-con (which is also partly relies on CIS on the part of her opponent "jobbing"). The MU just doesn't work imo.
This is the Time Eater VS Goku matchup, added to both profiles.
Here's the argument for Goku's victory:
"Yeah, Time Eater never uses hax in character."
"In the actual fight, the time eater rarely uses its hax."
"If the Time Eater is anything like the final boss of Sonic Generations then... Ultra Instinct Goku. Like, in character it NEVER uses its Hax nearly effective enough."
"[...] and there's only a small chance he'd get haxed out considering it's OOC for him to use it."
"The Time eater does not use had in character."
This is completely wrong.
TE's first move is EE (which, btw, he had no such HAX when the matchup was performed).
In other words, this matchup is a stomp, as Goku will be immediately erased from existence + BFR + Sealing.
This must be removed from both profiles.
What's TE's AP again? Don't suppose Simon could eventually AP him?Time Eater VS Simon Belmont: The argument for Simon's victory is that he will destroy Time Eater's soul, which is currently impossible due to his Inorganic Physiology (Type 2).
1.
the reason being i'm not sure if i removed spinjutzu or not.
spinjutzu is part of lloyd and if i removed that the match can't be added. so remove it and i will later decide for a rematch.
2.
also is this one a stomp
cause we all ended up voting for it but we didn't let them explain much if it was a stomp or not.
3.
and this one.
they have similar speed.
but i allowed star to keep her massively ftl+ attack speed.
check if this one deserves to be removed or not.
or maybe i changed it in the replies but forgot to add it in the op.
i'm still not sure so could someone help.
4.
was this one fine?
(hank can resurrect himself but it takes time regardless. "Hank's immortality is not reliable, as sometimes the Higher Powers don't resurrect him at all, and takes time, regardless")
also this one
because dragonmaster said this
"btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.
Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's."
these i'm not sure if remove or not.
So Simon stomps, TE has no wincon.What's TE's AP again? Don't suppose Simon could eventually AP him?
EDIT: Simon's got passive power null via vampire killer so there's that