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But given the context of the Ignia's statement he doesn't have a reason to lie about his own power here.
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It depends on the situation. The only reason I'm agreeing to it is because we have a direct statement that the attack is comparable to Zeref. Do any of the suicide move characters that you're thinking of have statements that say their power is comparable to other characters?Davidsteel1 said:Generally as far as I've seen we hardly ever scale characters to the suicide moves of others, that is the same here.
It also doesn't help that the result from the calc is a far cry from what we've seen the best in the series actually do, we have Acnologia and everyone comparable to him tentatively scaled to etherion because of the numerous statements and multipliers. But this is above even that, I just can't in good conscience agree with upgrading the god tiers based on this.
The latter actually seems harder to prove and requires far more leaps in logic for the charater to actually exist in this instance rather than just saying the actual events are canon themselves.DragonEmperor23 said:4. Eclair's mention in the manga was when Natsu went to Beta Heaven and counted her as one of his friends who lost their lives in battle. Is this enough of a connection (Him meeting Eclair and then the implied events leading to her death) or is it assumed that canonically he met this person who is the same person in the movie and she just happened to die off screen and have a mental impact big enough to be in his Beta Heaven?
That's not evidence, it makes the character but not the events. This is similar to why Admins denied the first Bleach movie canon thread, Ichigo saying he had been to a unique movie only place, this made the setting canon but not the events despite Ichigo stating he was there.DragonEmperor23 said:4. Eclair's mention in the manga was when Natsu went to Beta Heaven and counted her as one of his friends who lost their lives in battle. Is this enough of a connection (Him meeting Eclair and then the implied events leading to her death) or is it assumed that canonically he met this person who is the same person in the movie and she just happened to die off screen and have a mental impact big enough to be in his Beta Heaven?
Not to mention that Eclair only became immortal due to the pheonix's blood meaning that the Pheonix must also exist which would lead to the events of the movie making all relevant parties to this feat present in the Fairy tail Canon.DragonEmperor23 said:Alright, then what about Eclair also being shown in Fairy Tail Zero (Fairy Tail's prequel)?
Edit: The reason that matters is because Eclair is immortal in the movie so her being around back then in the manga matches with the movie.