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To be fair you can be a 3-D being who can not only user higher d power but effect a whole realm of that sort as wellWokistan said:I dunno it'd be pretty helpful to just step away on a direction inaccessible to Simon when you're being beat to death by him if that's a thing you're able to do
Fun things likeZacharyGrossman273 said:What? Why would we lose high 1-C?
Simon the Digger can break through space. Being physically 3-D, does not prevent a character from having higher D powersDMUA said:Fun things likeZacharyGrossman273 said:What? Why would we lose high 1-C?
- How 11D space is something they can get into with literally just a forking wedding ring, something that's a bit too low effort for literally going up by 8 entire infinites
- Anti Spiral doesn't move into another dimension to not die meanwhile his opponent by all indications is physically 3D
- .... That's it but it's still 2 massive things that give Dimensional tiering the finger
Spiral power's Reactive EvolutionNedge1000 said:Simon the Digger can break through space.DMUA said:Fun things likeZacharyGrossman273 said:What? Why would we lose high 1-C?
- How 11D space is something they can get into with literally just a forking wedding ring, something that's a bit too low effort for literally going up by 8 entire infinites
- .... That's it but it's still 2 massive things that give Dimensional tiering the finger
It's a completely unexplained Spike in escalation which then goes forth to only escalate at a trickle in comparisonDragonEmperor23 said:What exactly is it being an outlier to if Spiral power is better the more you have of it and Simon has the most?
Not much of outlier, Dimensional Tier jump do happen in fiction. Even at the lowest jump, Simon the Digger is still 3-D, with 4-D's power so the jump is a not outlier.DMUA said:To immedately transcend 8 infinites and not even make a big deal out of it
... If anything that's a massive outlier how casual it is
Or just again
Gurren Lagann not opperating on M Theory and thereby being inapplicable for Dimensional Tiering
From Spiral Nemesis, it is not an outlier. The verse describes anyone has any spiral powers could become powerful enough to destroy all existence.DMUA said:Yes but it's at a steady pace that the show escalates, going from Moon sized mechs to mechs that make Planet sized mechs look tiny to Mechs that are the size of galaxies to Mechs that go beyond the size limitations of our universe
Having a result that's vastly higher and out of line with the natural flow of data is an outlier
Case by case basis, in the setting of the show, it is possible. The spiral power ascension that could lead Spiral Nemesis is the whole reason why Anti-Spiral's subjugated Spiral beings and initial setting of the shows.DMUA said:It's a spontaneous power increase with no sense behind it. It's not that the jump is too big to work, it's just the jump in it's presentation makes no sense with it's in story placement.
This isn't even treated as a power increase, it's just going to somewhere outside of their normal reach and isn't even a moment of "woah we did that" as they easily go to the 10.5D space without complication
There is absolutely no founding and a fair bit of contradiction to M Theory in the show
It gives justification, via Spiral Nemesis. Again, the spiral power ascension that could lead Spiral Nemesis is the whole reason why Anti-Spiral's subjugated Spiral beings and initial setting of the shows.DMUA said:Possible... But very unreasonable to assume.
The show outright contradicts it and gives it no backing, there is no justification for it to be treated as is.
It is a case by case basis, not a rule, Ricsi-viragosi.Ricsi-viragosi said:Being stated to be at a dimensionality but then never even showcasing anything like it is not accepted.
Not knowledgable on the verse to say if its the case here.
3-D with Higher D powers in fiction like Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) in things, @DMUA.DMUA said:Our system goes on the basis of M Theory saying if you were to take a single bit of 3D matter and compare it to 2d matter, it would have infinitely more mass.
If a higher dimension doesn't have objects with infinitely more mass then lower ones, the system and ratings collapse in on themselves, as a 4D wouldn't punch with infinitely more force then a 3D.
If it contradicts the notion, we can't rate it using the notion.