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(Gurren Lagann 1-A/ H1-A+ upgrade) Don’t believe in yourself. Believe in the upgrade that believes in you!

I am asking you to explain why "dimension" as a term should mean something completely different (R>F gap) than what it is usually treated as (literal mathematical axis).

You can't have both of these interpretations at the same time for your own convenience in scaling the verse. They're inherently contradictory.

At the moment, their mathematical definition is what is most supported. Gurren Laggan is more direct about how it treats dimensions than most other verses.

For R>F to be accepted, ya gotta explain why "2D" doesn't actually mean 2D in a literal sense in that piece of the verse.

If you can't give a solid enough reasoning, this CRT fails.
Here. Is this what you're looking for or something else?
 
Btw isn't this thread supposed to be on the hub? Shouldn't it have been locked and then reviewed by Ultima?
 
anyway i agree with 1-B and 1-A but imo the way it should be done is:
dai gurren and AntiSpiral stay at High 1-C
Spiral Nemesis and Post Apotheosis Simon can maybe get 1-B
Avant Simon has a 1-B and 1-A keys pre ascension and post ascension
Otoko Simon gets 1-A
 
anyway i agree with 1-B and 1-A but imo the way it should be done is:
dai gurren and AntiSpiral stay at High 1-C
Spiral Nemesis and Post Apotheosis Simon can maybe get 1-B
Avant Simon has a 1-B and 1-A keys pre ascension and post ascension
Otoko Simon gets 1-A
Wasnt 20D from anti spirals attack?
 
anyway i agree with 1-B and 1-A but imo the way it should be done is:
dai gurren and AntiSpiral stay at High 1-C
Spiral Nemesis and Post Apotheosis Simon can maybe get 1-B
Avant Simon has a 1-B and 1-A keys pre ascension and post ascension
Otoko Simon gets 1-A
Post-Apotheosis Simon was still below the Anti-Spiral, though, and only overpowered the Anti-Spiral at the end of their fight.

Not to mention that the Otoko drama CD takes place within the Multiversal Labyrinth because Simon viewed the cast of the Otoko universe after he wakes up from the Labyrinth in the manga.

With all that being said, it makes no sense for the Anti-Spiral to stay at High 1-C; they should get bumped up to 1-B/1-A as well.
 
If at all possible, do you think you can link the FAQ here?

then that is substantial evidence for a Reality-Fiction Transcendence, in particular if the higher plane demonstrably has its own set of dimensions, so that it is impossible for it and the lower world to be related to each other by dimensional differences.
TTGL explicitly has something like this in it’s cosmology.
 
I don't think so. But since the proposal is for High 1-A you'd need them anyways.
Alright.

What do you think about 1-A based on the evidence brought up since? The r>f faq says a higher plane having its own set of dimensions is great evidence, as it sufficiently proves the planes aren’t tied to a dimensional hierarchy.
 
The most I see from this is a 1-B upgrade. 1-A and High 1-A still don't work for me and I don't agree with the logic presented as R>F.
Yea, 1-B is undeniable at this point.

also, may i ask why 1-A doesnt work for you? A plane having a different set of dimensions is directly said to be good justification for the difference not being quantitive in nature.

could you mention ultima? im pretty sure he wrote the FAQ, so i would like to see his thoughts on this.
 
also, may i ask why 1-A doesnt work for you? A plane having a different set of dimensions is directly said to be good justification for the difference not being quantitive in nature.
Despite the arguments presented I don't see the sets of dimensional axis being separated in a R>F fashion from the CD verse to the Anti-Spiral space.
could you mention ultima?
Sure but they're generally pretty busy: @Ultima_Reality
 
Despite the arguments presented I don't see the sets of dimensional axis being separated in a R>F fashion from the CD verse to the Anti-Spiral space.
If I may ask, what exactly do you mean? Are you talking about the main universe, the 2D universe (the manga created by Otoko Simon), or the Otoko universe itself?
 
I was going to wait until a certain other thread i made was going to be resolve
On the topic of that, I'd point out that a similar CRT is going on here.

I'd want to use this thread to determine whether to argue that R>F can be argued despite the anti feat of it being associated with Dimensional gap only because of some "context", so I'd avoid double standards here.
 
Just wanted to pop by and say I agree with the 1-B stuff mentioned, but I’m staying neutral with anything 1-A or higher for now (but I’m leaning towards disagree ngl)
 
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