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Last Ditch Effort at Upgrading TTGL to Immeasurable

Just sounds like time powers to me.
Particularly, remember that Immeasurable combat speed has a reaction component.
 
Yeah, as said time powers. Every Low 2-Cs energy traverses past and future when they blow up timelines.
 
If it wasn't because Simon absorbed and integrated them, he didn't destroy them
How does that make a difference? It's still just using power to affect things throughout time. There's no reaction or even physical movement speed component.
 
How does that make a difference? It's still just using power to affect things throughout time. There's no reaction or even physical movement speed component.

one thing is that you destroy something, and another is that you absorb it and integrate it into you. two different things (three actually) for simon to even absorb it, yes or if he had to react and act, even if it was all from the drill, the drill comes from his spiral power, which is all he has, AP, SP, HAX, Abilities, everything Simon has is for spiral power.
 
How does that make a difference? It's still just using power to affect things throughout time. There's no reaction or even physical movement speed component.
It can’t be hax, all the Core Drill is, is a Spiral Power conduit, it’s literally just a key that releases the user’s Spiral Power as shown before. And the integration mechanics suggests that this energy traversed the structure for it to be integrated
 
a question,how many kills has simon.
i remember him killing a lot of beastmen
Simon killed Antispiral, who’s the thoughts of the Anti-Spiral tribe, which all lived on a planet far larger than the size of a Galaxy. So at least 51 septillion, from searching how many people can fit onto all the planets in the Milky Way
 
Bumping won't help much, only one admin can help you with this. No one else
 
Because no one is interested in a rejected thread. And only the Admin who is knowledgeable of speed is not responding.
It hasn't been truly rejected yet, since it hasn't been locked. Its still a debate, one of the admin agrees with this
 
Dude this is a completely different argument from the one from last time
Different or same, it was rejected last time. This is my point. Hence, why is no one interested? No one would ignore the thread in a row without a reason.
 
Different or same, it was rejected last time. This is my point. Hence, why is no one interested? No one would ignore the thread in a row without a reason.
It doesn’t matter if the rating was rejected before, what matters is the argument behind the rating, and the OP is suggesting a different argument from before. It used to be about them having the same inherent dimensions as the temporal dimension, then Simon himself traveling to the future of a universe in the multiverse, now it’s his raw Spiral Power traversing the other universes including their past and future
 
But how is it time manipulation? Simon released his raw Spiral Power and it traversed the past and present
 
Time travel has been previously established as needing probability manipulation to perform. Simon was stated to break through the walls of the multiverse, and he perceives those universes' past, present and future all at once, ie viewing those universes as the entire space-time continuum. Plus, through the activation of a far superior version of Spiral Power, Super Spiral Power, Simon is now capable of viewing said universes, so it isn't the use of an already existing hax he has, Super Spiral Power gave him an immense upgrade for him to see the universes' past and future. The universes didn't just come crashing down to appear in front of him, it's trying to portray that he sees it all now
 
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