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I suppppose we could do that...?
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Simon revisions (And I guess we also bring up High 1-C. Twice.)
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I suppppose we could do that...?
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Everything has been settled. All that is needed to do is to add justification for Simon's resistance.
After further analysis, I think these would:
Resistance to
After further analysis, I think these would:
Resistance to
- Radiation Manipulation - (Can survive in outer space)
- Electricity Manipulation - (Gunman's run on electricity when run by Beastman
- Spatial Manipulation also Time Manipulation- (resisted The Anti-Spiral's who can attack from the past and future and
- Gravity Manipulation - (Resisted the strengthening Death Spiral's field while constantly being the depowers by it)
- Illusion Creation (from Anti-Spiral also which share similar nature to its Mind Manipulation)
- Mind Manipulation (Via the Extradimensional Labyrinth; Extra specific)
- Size Manipulation (Can size-shift to be larger or smaller in situatio)
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Attacking from the past present and future isn't time manipulation, it's time travel or immeasurable speed...
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Simon not resisting time manipulation wouldn't make sense, he definitely should resist it
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It seems like immeasurable speed for both since Simon the Digger can do it too and they can both move thorugh time axis through movementAndytrenom said:
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@Zac
That's a bad argument, give reasons why it won't make sense please.
That's a bad argument, give reasons why it won't make sense please.
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>Basically redundant considering this applies to every space traveler ever but meh I guess it countsNedge1000 said:
>At what point does he... Resist... A Gunmen... What
>Simon never had to resist that, it was never applied to him, he just had to counter it, not to mention Anti Spiral doesn't even manipulate space in said attacks
>He was literally dying that's not resistance that's being crushed.
>Any time the Anti Spiral did use it, it worked and Simon didn't resist
>Yes, that's actually legit
>Never actually used on Simon
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Is the movie canon? Assuming it is, Simon should have Transmutation for turning his hand into a drill.
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That's more ShapeshiftingDragonEmperor23 said:
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He didn't turn his hand into a drill, he gave himself a drill made of his own blood
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The electricity stuff is what the self destruct machines did if I am not mistaken (mugann)
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Actually, honestly, Resistance to Probability Manipulation also bothers me. He doesn't resist, he just has it for himself and overpowered the Anti Spiral's variant.
In fact if anything Anti Spiral was the one resisting it considering they had to bring out the probability altering missiles to get past Dai Gurren's defenses
In fact if anything Anti Spiral was the one resisting it considering they had to bring out the probability altering missiles to get past Dai Gurren's defenses
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Pretty sure that would also be resistance in this case.DMUA said:
Resistance is the ability to lessen the effectiveness of certain techniques and abilities through whatever means, such as greatly decreasing the potency of Mind Manipulation or nullifying it altogether.
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Simon only got separated from the crew after the Anti Spiral pulled out the Labyrinth. Every other time they were going through it together.Nedge1000 said:
You continuing to link other sources does not give me confidence in you actually having watched the show
Blasting someone with more energy isn't resistance to energy manipulation, and likewise, blasting someone with more probability isn't resistance to Probability Manipulation.
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Ironic considering you've only done the latter and haven't even elaborated how it's proven true in said show rather just choosing to say something and expecting it to be taken as universal truth, and when it isn't, proceeding to link fanon sources.Nedge1000 said:
Not really. The same principal of stronger thing beats weaker thing applies, and in both examples, you don't need to resist to be stronger
It's being overpowered by a stronger use of the ability, not negation or resistance.
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My point is comparing Probability Manipulation to Energy Manipulation is False Analogy Fallacy in how Resistance works with Energy Manipulation.
It (Probability Manipulation) will work unless going resistance or can negate it
Simon does not have negation. Likewise, Reactive Evolution can grant Resistance.
Even, if I agree with a statement.; It would still be Resistance based on its definition
Resistance is the ability to lessen the effectiveness of certain techniques and abilities through whatever means, such as greatly decreasing the potency of Mind Manipulation or nullifying it altogether.
It (Probability Manipulation) will work unless going resistance or can negate it
Simon does not have negation. Likewise, Reactive Evolution can grant Resistance.
Even, if I agree with a statement.; It would still be Resistance based on its definition
Resistance is the ability to lessen the effectiveness of certain techniques and abilities through whatever means, such as greatly decreasing the potency of Mind Manipulation or nullifying it altogether.
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Those are extemely iffy unless we've given other characters resistance to raditation for simply being in space.Nedge1000 said:
Electircity manipulation is not valid unless the Gunman beastmen actually shoot out electricity to attack Simon and not simply use it as a power source for their mech.
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AguilaR101, Crzer07 updated the resistance. He likely knows more justifications
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It's a littttle redundant since radiation doesen't mean much on an 11-D scale, but I'm fine with keeping it
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I mean, the implication is left byNedge1000 said:
Literally the entire show itself
They gain probability manipulation, Anti Spiral counters, and they brawl it out using it
Saying they resisted the Hax would be more the headcanon, as it goes against them trying to break their limits and outfight their chance of winning being absolute 0.
The show is more about fighting the odds then resisting the odds being altered.
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Should simon have Acausality?
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Simon didn't show any signs of having any types of Acausality. So nein.
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Zac why exactly?
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This is one instance of electric shock from the Ku and kyo-Mugann, part of its seperation attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALyoqP5c9wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALyoqP5c9wI
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Simon should at least have type 1
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The resistance to Electricity Manipulation is legit. Thanks for the inputs, Crzer07!
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