WrongIdea21
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Your question has been answered by him, don't be too stiffUh I wasn't responding to you
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Your question has been answered by him, don't be too stiffUh I wasn't responding to you
Oh wait, I didn't realize that was an explanation, I thought it was an entirely unrelated thing XDYour question has been answered by him, don't be too stiff
Plenty of possibilities but making one up doesn't make it valid.in a difficult position he can and in a free state he can not?
Low Godly Regeneration can be negated and Madara Rikudo Can't?
Low Godly vs Low-Mid thoPlenty of possibilities but making one up doesn't make it valid.
Tsuchikage's used the fission technique. His clone was sealed and he only had half of his reserves left because of it. Not only that, Kabuto says his regeneration is going to take some time, meaning it was just incredibly slowed down, not negated.
Then why would it take a while?It wasn't negated at all, so it just means it was a very powerful technique, not that it has regenerative disruptive abilities.
Its accepted as regen negation and power literally means his KCM cloak"Although given that power of Naruto's...... It's going to take time for him to regenerate, even with an edotensei body"
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The power gap between Naruto and 50% Edo Mu is not anywhere close to the gap between Madara and Naruto.
He used a far more powerful technique against a far more powerful opponent and it literally did nothing.Its accepted as regen negation and power literally means his KCM cloak
He was damaged in the panels prior.He used a far more powerful technique against a far more powerful opponent and it literally did nothing.
Off-panel by a bunch of Jonin, heavy outlier. This is comparing the context regarding Naruto though.He was damaged in the panels prior.
No, I mean that you'll see the rasenshuriken did a lot of damage to him in the last page, he just healed faster.Off-panel by a bunch of Jonin, heavy outlier. This is comparing the context regarding Naruto though.
It's proof that a far superior opponent can heal from it quickly, but Madara's durability isn't far superior to Naruto's AP, not at all actually.Oh yeah I saw that, which is proof
So why didn't Muu heal immediately? Maybe it's a property only of the planetary rasengan.It's proof he doesn't have regeneration negation.
How many times I have to say this....You're right. She doesn't scale to him. She scales below him. Thanks for agreeing.
Yeah, but a few attacks will leave Madara in far worse condition than Naruto, and before he activates Infinite Tsukuyomi Naruto will defeat him. And Madara isn't Kaguya. Besides, wasn't Sasuke's genjutsu stated as the strongest genjutsu in a databook and Sasuke couldn't put Naruto in a genjutsu?
Actually Fused Momoshiki scales above Momoshiki who scales above Toneri. Madara scales above Toneri alone though doesn't he? And Adult Naruto is superior to Momoshiki. So even being conservative, Naruto>>Madara.How many times I have to say this....
Here Kaguya scales to Hagoromo's/Naruto's and Sasuke's CT calc which is 5C+
Momo scales above Toneri alone who is 5C.
So she clearly scales above him when you compare the feats/calcs. So your scaling doesn't work at all. We have been through this Momo mess so many times before... And even a rule has been created.
Madara has so many attacks like the CT and Limbo combo he used in the manga which distracted both Naruto and Sasuke and his regen is good too. MT is the Ultimate Genjutsu. Databook didn't say that for Sasuke... What are you saying? Madara not being Kaguya doesn't mean that he can not the MT at one person...
He used 2 of Kaguya's jutsu: Shin Jukai Kutan and MT.
Naruto has no counter for MT at all.
Naruto wasn't in his Kurama Avatar. Also Sasuke doesn't know all of Naruto's abilities. Also his eyes were open. As we saw, the damiyo's didn't get put under the IT until they opened their eyes. And with SPSM Naruto could easily fight with his eyes shut, like Kabuto. And he knows about the IT, so he'd likely do so.
A punch that was easily blocked with no issues......That was also Base Teen Six Paths Naruto with a basic punch, who pales in comparison to SPSM+BM Adult Naruto.
Learn to read what I wrote...Actually Fused Momoshiki scales above Momoshiki who scales above Toneri. Madara scales above Toneri alone though doesn't he? And Adult Naruto is superior to Momoshiki. So even being conservative, Naruto>>Madara.
Madara unlike Kaguya can see through Clones and knows the who the Original Naruto is going to be. If Kaguya could do this then she would have one shotted Naruto. Even if Naruto used the Kurama avatar (and had an advantage) in the end its useless. Regardless of AP he can not counter MT. Its that simple.You know SPSM Naruto has a ton of versatility too right? And he can make thousands of shadow clones that even held off Kaguya briefly. Also he never used his Avatar, which increases his power greatly, so that's more reason Naruto's AP>Madara. And I can't find the statement right now, but I'll tag you when I do.
I know but know but Kaguya was said to use the same jutsu in past... Your point?That's from the Hashirama cells, and MT is from the rinnesharingan.
A punch that was easily blocked with no issues......
And no, Adult Naruto is not currently accepted as stronger than Teen Naruto.Sorry to burst your bubble lol.
Yeah I'm moving onto another point because I know you're not gonna listen to Momoshiki>Kaguya (despite it being true). The Toneri moon slice calc is about 200 exatons, and half of the ct calc is about 200 exatons. Madara scales to the latter (according to his profile), while Momoshiki scales well above the former. More than twice as much in fact, considering Kinshiki>Toneri via somewhat fighting Sasuke who is considered far above BSM Naruto and Toneri. And Momoshiki absorbed all of Kinshiki's power, who he's superior to. That means Momoshiki is over 400 exatons. And Naruto scales above Fused Momoshiki. So that means Naruto>>Madara.Learn to read what I wrote...
Kaguya= 5C+
Momo (Fused or not) = 5C
They scale to different people. Hagoromo has feats that are quite above Toneri and Kaguya scales above them. Momo fused or not scales to Toneri alone. Fused is stronger but we don't know how much. Being superior to Momo is still 5C. They don't have an AP gab at all.
Madara unlike Kaguya can see through Clones and knows the who the Original Naruto is going to be. If Kaguya could do this then she would have one shotted Naruto. Even if Naruto used the Kurama avatar (and had an advantage) in the end its useless. Regardless of AP he can not counter MT. Its that simple.
Also what UchihaSlayer96 said. Both Teen and Adult are comperable. That's all.
I know but know but Kaguya was said to use the same jutsu in past... Your point?
That has got to be a CRT one day.Adult Naruto is not currently accepted as stronger than Teen Naruto.
You vote incon then?Despite Madara is weaker in stats wise
But his IT is the real Danger here and note that the range between them is 100m , the speed is also equals but....
naruto , he has a better experience of fighting a stronger foe
And can negate his regeneration, literally the walking counter to Rikudou jutsu
Neutral here
Err no, i wanna read the thread firstYou vote incon then?
tf is this?He used a far more powerful technique against a far more powerful opponent and it literally did nothing.
No, stop saying that he does. It's not accepted, and is NOT on the profiles currently. We work off of the profiles in VS battles.Naruto Wincon:
Naruto Has an AP and Speed Advantage, so Naruto One Punch.
Only the Rasenshuriken negates durability, and Naruto can't negate regeneration, only slow it down somewhat.Naruto Also Had Durability and Regeneration negations with Planetary Rasengan and Rasen Shuriken and Spam it With His Shadow Doppelganger jutsu.
He does not. Madara is far more experienced (given his age and knowledge), and has been fighting for far longer than Naruto. His taijutsu skill is at least just as good.Naruto has More Experience, Taijutsu Skill
He doesn't resist the IT.and Resistance to Madara Mind Manipulation.
I'm just saying what the Naruto side said in their argument.No, stop saying that he does. It's not accepted, and is NOT on the profiles currently. We work off of the profiles in VS battles.
Only the Rasenshuriken negates durability, and Naruto can't negate regeneration, only slow it down somewhat.
He does not. Madara is far more experienced (given his age and knowledge), and has been fighting for far longer than Naruto. His taijutsu skill is at least just as good.
He doesn't resist the IT.
That's fair, but I think if votes were made based on incorrect arguments like "Naruto AP stomps!", then they should be discounted.I'm just saying what the Naruto side said in their argument.
Like This, huh?That's fair, but I think if votes were made based on incorrect arguments like "Naruto AP stomps!", then they should be discounted.
Adult SPSM+BM Naruto>Adult SPSM Naruto=>Fused Momoshiki>Momoshiki>Kaguya>Madara
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeLike This, huh?
8 for MadaraWhat’s the current total?
is NOT on the profiles currently
I think if votes were made based on incorrect arguments like "Naruto AP stomps!", then they should be discounted.